The Supreme T75 College Ranking: Aggregating the 13 Best Rankings To Create One Ultimate List

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

How many kids got into Hopkins vs U Mich at your high school. This year we had 0 Hopkins admits and 18 U Mich.

How many 18 year olds really wants to go to Hopkins anyway?

About 38,500.

38,500 apply and the vast majority would go elsewhere if they were accepted at an elite.

This is true, here are some of the cross admit preferences from Parchment, it's not perfect but it gives a general idea:

Yale 84% - JHU 16%
UPenn 83% - JHU 17%
Duke 81% - JHU 19%
Columbia 81% - JHU 19%
Northwestern 65% - JHU 35%
Cornell 51% - JHU 49%

Well, let’s go back to the original question - Parchment says 62 percent chose HOPKINS, 38 MICHIGAN

Hopkins 65, UVA 35
Hopkins 80, Emory 20
Hopkins 53, Wash U 47
Hopkins 61, Vanderbilt 39

Highly ranked private school on the east coast with an undergraduate student body at 1/5 the size of public Michigan. Naturally those who are accepted to both universities would be more likely to attend Hopkins, in this case at about a 2 to 1 ratio. Still doesn’t explain the fact why a supposedly top ten school does so poorly against its private peers.

Because there is more to a kid's undergraduate experience than academics.

Agreed!

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

Michigan is a great school. For in-state students it could definitely be more worthwhile than Hopkins. For serious engineering and business outside of BME and healthcare management, Michigan destroys Hopkins.

UpHopkins has a number of engineering programs ranked in the top 20 besides its number 1 ranked bme program.

Hopkins International Relations undergrad program is ranked number 3 in the US. It's not just known for science. And, SAIS its School of Advanced International Studies is ranked #2 in the US s for top master's program for a policy career i

The writing seminars program is also one of the top in the country, as is public health.

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I'm amazed at how ignorant people are when they think Hopkins is only nationally/internationally recognized for it's science programs.

I’m amazed graduate programs are mentioned here at all when this is obviously a discussion about undergraduate rankings.

Preach, I think some people are just having a tough time with the knowledge that the undergrad programs at Duke, Penn, and Yale are just better than that at Hopkins. UMich being ahead of Hopkins isn't even crazy to me, UMich is great academically and definitely more fun.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

I don’t get equally weighting the 13 sources cited in the Reddit article. USNWR is arguably more influential than the other 12 combined, but contributes only about 8% in this approach. Some are worth looking at but an equal weighting seems based on the false premise they are roughly of equal credibility.

If looking beyond USNWR, I would probably consult Fiske or Princeton Review for undergrad quality before any of the other 12.

I wonder why Princeton Review doesn't do a ranking, they'd have instant credibility. I respect them though, maybe they don't want to get into the business of empty clicks

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

Michigan is a great school. For in-state students it could definitely be more worthwhile than Hopkins. For serious engineering and business outside of BME and healthcare management, Michigan destroys Hopkins.

UpHopkins has a number of engineering programs ranked in the top 20 besides its number 1 ranked bme program.

Hopkins International Relations undergrad program is ranked number 3 in the US. It's not just known for science. And, SAIS its School of Advanced International Studies is ranked #2 in the US s for top master's program for a policy career i

The writing seminars program is also one of the top in the country, as is public health.

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I'm amazed at how ignorant people are when they think Hopkins is only nationally/internationally recognized for it's science programs.

I’m amazed graduate programs are mentioned here at all when this is obviously a discussion about undergraduate rankings.

Preach, I think some people are just having a tough time with the knowledge that the undergrad programs at Duke, Penn, and Yale are just better than that at Hopkins. UMich being ahead of Hopkins isn't even crazy to me, UMich is great academically and definitely more fun.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

How many kids got into Hopkins vs U Mich at your high school. This year we had 0 Hopkins admits and 18 U Mich.

How many 18 year olds really wants to go to Hopkins anyway?

About 38,500.

38,500 apply and the vast majority would go elsewhere if they were accepted at an elite.

This is true, here are some of the cross admit preferences from Parchment, it's not perfect but it gives a general idea:

Yale 84% - JHU 16%
UPenn 83% - JHU 17%
Duke 81% - JHU 19%
Columbia 81% - JHU 19%
Northwestern 65% - JHU 35%
Cornell 51% - JHU 49%

Well, let’s go back to the original question - Parchment says 62 percent chose HOPKINS, 38 MICHIGAN

Hopkins 65, UVA 35
Hopkins 80, Emory 20
Hopkins 53, Wash U 47
Hopkins 61, Vanderbilt 39

Highly ranked private school on the east coast with an undergraduate student body at 1/5 the size of public Michigan. Naturally those who are accepted to both universities would be more likely to attend Hopkins, in this case at about a 2 to 1 ratio. Still doesn’t explain the fact why a supposedly top ten school does so poorly against its private peers.

Meh, not many schools are going to do well against the ivies. Vanderbilt and Wash U are basically right behind in rankings, and Hopkins does well compared to both.

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"Best 13?" That in itself is ridiculous. There are 13 filigent, credible list making organizations? Some of these lists are bizarre and arcane. I can't imagine i would agree with the "criteria" of some of these when looking at their lists. I don't get the obsession with lists in general, but this idea that all lists mean something is especially weird. It's like alternative facts, just putting it out there gives it some footing.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

How many kids got into Hopkins vs U Mich at your high school. This year we had 0 Hopkins admits and 18 U Mich.

How many 18 year olds really wants to go to Hopkins anyway?

About 38,500.

38,500 apply and the vast majority would go elsewhere if they were accepted at an elite.

This is true, here are some of the cross admit preferences from Parchment, it's not perfect but it gives a general idea:

Yale 84% - JHU 16%
UPenn 83% - JHU 17%
Duke 81% - JHU 19%
Columbia 81% - JHU 19%
Northwestern 65% - JHU 35%
Cornell 51% - JHU 49%

Well, let’s go back to the original question - Parchment says 62 percent chose HOPKINS, 38 MICHIGAN

Hopkins 65, UVA 35
Hopkins 80, Emory 20
Hopkins 53, Wash U 47
Hopkins 61, Vanderbilt 39

Highly ranked private school on the east coast with an undergraduate student body at 1/5 the size of public Michigan. Naturally those who are accepted to both universities would be more likely to attend Hopkins, in this case at about a 2 to 1 ratio. Still doesn’t explain the fact why a supposedly top ten school does so poorly against its private peers.

Meh, not many schools are going to do well against the ivies. Vanderbilt and Wash U are basically right behind in rankings, and Hopkins does well compared to both.

Meg, Vanderbilt and WashU are ranked 13 and 15. That’s not just right behind….

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I actually did something similar when my kids got their admissions but waited US News 2x since it is more commonly read. Also, only used WSJ, Forbes, Niche, and US News. So the waiting was 20-20-20-40. Worked well. All my kids will have Ivy degrees (yes one is at Cornell) and would gladly take that. Works well at cocktail parties and restaurants when we sit at the bar at dining establishments and talk to the couple next to us.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

How many kids got into Hopkins vs U Mich at your high school. This year we had 0 Hopkins admits and 18 U Mich.

How many 18 year olds really wants to go to Hopkins anyway?

About 38,500.

38,500 apply and the vast majority would go elsewhere if they were accepted at an elite.

This is true, here are some of the cross admit preferences from Parchment, it's not perfect but it gives a general idea:

Yale 84% - JHU 16%
UPenn 83% - JHU 17%
Duke 81% - JHU 19%
Columbia 81% - JHU 19%
Northwestern 65% - JHU 35%
Cornell 51% - JHU 49%

Well, let’s go back to the original question - Parchment says 62 percent chose HOPKINS, 38 MICHIGAN

Hopkins 65, UVA 35
Hopkins 80, Emory 20
Hopkins 53, Wash U 47
Hopkins 61, Vanderbilt 39

Highly ranked private school on the east coast with an undergraduate student body at 1/5 the size of public Michigan. Naturally those who are accepted to both universities would be more likely to attend Hopkins, in this case at about a 2 to 1 ratio. Still doesn’t explain the fact why a supposedly top ten school does so poorly against its private peers.

Meh, not many schools are going to do well against the ivies. Vanderbilt and Wash U are basically right behind in rankings, and Hopkins does well compared to both.

Meg, Vanderbilt and WashU are ranked 13 and 15. That’s not just right behind….

It is when various numbers are skipped due to ties.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

How many kids got into Hopkins vs U Mich at your high school. This year we had 0 Hopkins admits and 18 U Mich.

How many 18 year olds really wants to go to Hopkins anyway?

About 38,500.

38,500 apply and the vast majority would go elsewhere if they were accepted at an elite.

This is true, here are some of the cross admit preferences from Parchment, it's not perfect but it gives a general idea:

Yale 84% - JHU 16%
UPenn 83% - JHU 17%
Duke 81% - JHU 19%
Columbia 81% - JHU 19%
Northwestern 65% - JHU 35%
Cornell 51% - JHU 49%

Well, let’s go back to the original question - Parchment says 62 percent chose HOPKINS, 38 MICHIGAN

Hopkins 65, UVA 35
Hopkins 80, Emory 20
Hopkins 53, Wash U 47
Hopkins 61, Vanderbilt 39

Highly ranked private school on the east coast with an undergraduate student body at 1/5 the size of public Michigan. Naturally those who are accepted to both universities would be more likely to attend Hopkins, in this case at about a 2 to 1 ratio. Still doesn’t explain the fact why a supposedly top ten school does so poorly against its private peers.

Meh, not many schools are going to do well against the ivies. Vanderbilt and Wash U are basically right behind in rankings, and Hopkins does well compared to both.

Meg, Vanderbilt and WashU are ranked 13 and 15. That’s not just right behind….

It is when various numbers are skipped due to ties.

You can skip all the ties you want. There are 6 and 8 universities ranked below JHU that I can almost guarantee would win the cross admit preferences between the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

How many kids got into Hopkins vs U Mich at your high school. This year we had 0 Hopkins admits and 18 U Mich.

How many 18 year olds really wants to go to Hopkins anyway?

About 38,500.

38,500 apply and the vast majority would go elsewhere if they were accepted at an elite.

This is true, here are some of the cross admit preferences from Parchment, it's not perfect but it gives a general idea:

Yale 84% - JHU 16%
UPenn 83% - JHU 17%
Duke 81% - JHU 19%
Columbia 81% - JHU 19%
Northwestern 65% - JHU 35%
Cornell 51% - JHU 49%

Well, let’s go back to the original question - Parchment says 62 percent chose HOPKINS, 38 MICHIGAN

Hopkins 65, UVA 35
Hopkins 80, Emory 20
Hopkins 53, Wash U 47
Hopkins 61, Vanderbilt 39

Highly ranked private school on the east coast with an undergraduate student body at 1/5 the size of public Michigan. Naturally those who are accepted to both universities would be more likely to attend Hopkins, in this case at about a 2 to 1 ratio. Still doesn’t explain the fact why a supposedly top ten school does so poorly against its private peers.

Meh, not many schools are going to do well against the ivies. Vanderbilt and Wash U are basically right behind in rankings, and Hopkins does well compared to both.

Meg, Vanderbilt and WashU are ranked 13 and 15. That’s not just right behind….

It is when various numbers are skipped due to ties.

You can skip all the ties you want. There are 6 and 8 universities ranked below JHU that I can almost guarantee would win the cross admit preferences between the schools.

We get it, you hate Hopkins. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a great school. The move up in rankings will likely increase applications and further lower the acceptance rate. Sorry that is difficult news for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

How many kids got into Hopkins vs U Mich at your high school. This year we had 0 Hopkins admits and 18 U Mich.

How many 18 year olds really wants to go to Hopkins anyway?

About 38,500.

38,500 apply and the vast majority would go elsewhere if they were accepted at an elite.

This is true, here are some of the cross admit preferences from Parchment, it's not perfect but it gives a general idea:

Yale 84% - JHU 16%
UPenn 83% - JHU 17%
Duke 81% - JHU 19%
Columbia 81% - JHU 19%
Northwestern 65% - JHU 35%
Cornell 51% - JHU 49%

Well, let’s go back to the original question - Parchment says 62 percent chose HOPKINS, 38 MICHIGAN

Hopkins 65, UVA 35
Hopkins 80, Emory 20
Hopkins 53, Wash U 47
Hopkins 61, Vanderbilt 39

Highly ranked private school on the east coast with an undergraduate student body at 1/5 the size of public Michigan. Naturally those who are accepted to both universities would be more likely to attend Hopkins, in this case at about a 2 to 1 ratio. Still doesn’t explain the fact why a supposedly top ten school does so poorly against its private peers.

Meh, not many schools are going to do well against the ivies. Vanderbilt and Wash U are basically right behind in rankings, and Hopkins does well compared to both.

Meg, Vanderbilt and WashU are ranked 13 and 15. That’s not just right behind….

It is when various numbers are skipped due to ties.

You can skip all the ties you want. There are 6 and 8 universities ranked below JHU that I can almost guarantee would win the cross admit preferences between the schools.

We get it, you hate Hopkins. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a great school. The move up in rankings will likely increase applications and further lower the acceptance rate. Sorry that is difficult news for you.

Agreed no need for the Hopkins hate. To the obvious Hopkins haters: we're not saying we're better than Duke or Caltech just because of 1 year of US News rankings, but we're still a top school. Many kids will be trying very hard to get in, and the increase in US News will only help. I think we'll be able start chipping away those Duke UPenn and Columbia cross admit battles that we've historically lost 20-80 to. Progress is still progress.

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I’m not a Hopkins hater. I just think It’s a bit overrated at #7. A school rated that highly should not be losing students consistently to other highly ranked schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

How many kids got into Hopkins vs U Mich at your high school. This year we had 0 Hopkins admits and 18 U Mich.

How many 18 year olds really wants to go to Hopkins anyway?

About 38,500.

38,500 apply and the vast majority would go elsewhere if they were accepted at an elite.

This is true, here are some of the cross admit preferences from Parchment, it's not perfect but it gives a general idea:

Yale 84% - JHU 16%
UPenn 83% - JHU 17%
Duke 81% - JHU 19%
Columbia 81% - JHU 19%
Northwestern 65% - JHU 35%
Cornell 51% - JHU 49%

Well, let’s go back to the original question - Parchment says 62 percent chose HOPKINS, 38 MICHIGAN

Hopkins 65, UVA 35
Hopkins 80, Emory 20
Hopkins 53, Wash U 47
Hopkins 61, Vanderbilt 39

Highly ranked private school on the east coast with an undergraduate student body at 1/5 the size of public Michigan. Naturally those who are accepted to both universities would be more likely to attend Hopkins, in this case at about a 2 to 1 ratio. Still doesn’t explain the fact why a supposedly top ten school does so poorly against its private peers.

Meh, not many schools are going to do well against the ivies. Vanderbilt and Wash U are basically right behind in rankings, and Hopkins does well compared to both.

Meg, Vanderbilt and WashU are ranked 13 and 15. That’s not just right behind….

It is when various numbers are skipped due to ties.

You can skip all the ties you want. There are 6 and 8 universities ranked below JHU that I can almost guarantee would win the cross admit preferences between the schools.

We get it, you hate Hopkins. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a great school. The move up in rankings will likely increase applications and further lower the acceptance rate. Sorry that is difficult news for you.

It was ranked #7 last year and has been top ten for quite some time. It still loses out substantially to its close peers in cross admitted students. There must be a very good reason for that.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

This affirms the widely held notion that Hopkins is overrated on the latest US News ranking list.

This kind of aggregate ranking has its own flaws (for example, there are more than several rankings included in the aggregate that are not even remotely credible).

JFC. In what world is U Mich higher than Hopkins? lmaof

Michigan is a great school. For in-state students it could definitely be more worthwhile than Hopkins. For serious engineering and business outside of BME and healthcare management, Michigan destroys Hopkins.

UpHopkins has a number of engineering programs ranked in the top 20 besides its number 1 ranked bme program.

Hopkins International Relations undergrad program is ranked number 3 in the US. It's not just known for science. And, SAIS its School of Advanced International Studies is ranked #2 in the US s for top master's program for a policy career i

The writing seminars program is also one of the top in the country, as is public health.

+100

I'm amazed at how ignorant people are when they think Hopkins is only nationally/internationally recognized for it's science programs.

I’m amazed graduate programs are mentioned here at all when this is obviously a discussion about undergraduate rankings.

People mentioned their Undergrad programs that were not their well-known science majors that are in top 3 in the US. Policy and International relations BA