The Supreme T75 College Ranking: Aggregating the 13 Best Rankings To Create One Ultimate List

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Anonymous wrote:You need to get a job.

Sorry your school didn't do well but whoever made it on Reddit is a high school senior, and it's a very popular post

Oh sorry, I didnt realize it was a very popular post on reddit. Let me retract me statement. s/

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Oh sh*t, where’s Pitt???

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Anonymous wrote:Oh sh*t, where’s Pitt???

In Pittsburgh PA

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Anonymous wrote:There was some other interesting info from the original Reddit post that I think is worth copying and pasting here:

Fun Findings:

Using the data I obtained to make this ranking, I found some interesting datapoints and trends:

- Undisputed #1: MIT is the #1 college in the US! Incredibly, MIT was ranked as the #1 college in the country on a whopping 7 of the 13 publications!

- No Consensus T5: No school is a T5 in all 13 rankings. Stanford and Princeton are the closest, but they miss the T5 in exactly one publication each (Stanford is #9 on WalletHub, Princeton is #8 on WSJ/THE).

- Consensus T10: However, there are four schools that rank in the T10 in all 13 rankings: MIT, Stanford, Princeton, and Duke. Harvard and Yale are the next closest, both missing the T10 on two publications each.

- T5 Contenders: There are 13 schools that rank in the T5 in at least one ranking: MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Duke, Yale, Penn, Caltech, Columbia, UChicago, Berkeley, Georgia Tech, and UF. However, there are only 7 schools that rank in the T5 in multiple rankings: MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, and Caltech.

- T10 Contenders: There are 25 schools that rank in the T10 in at least one ranking: MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech, Northwestern, Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell, UChicago, Brown, Vanderbilt, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Notre Dame, UMich, UCLA, Berkeley, Georgia Tech, UF, UVA, and UNC. However, only 18 schools rank in the T10 in multiple rankings: MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech, Northwestern, Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell, UChicago, Brown, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Berkeley, and UMich.

- Ivies vs Non-Ivies: The Ivies have an average rank of 9 on this list, while the top eight non-Ivies (MIT, Stanford, Duke, Caltech, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, and UChicago) have an average rank of 7.75, so the non-Ivies win by a hair!

- State Supremacy: To determine which states might have the best schools, I took the three highest ranked schools from each state and calculated their average rank. Of course, this was for fun and is far from a perfect measure as the ranking omits LACs and other specialized schools, and three schools from each state is a small sample size and does not reflect the depth of great universities some states might have. Only 13 states had at least three schools in the T75, and the results were:

California (Stanford, Caltech, UCLA) - 10.66

Massachusetts (MIT, Harvard, BC) - 12.33

Illinois (Northwestern, UChicago, UIUC) - 19.33

New York (Columbia, Cornell, NYU) - 22.66

North Carolina (Duke, UNC, Wake Forest) - 23.33

Pennsylvania (Penn, CMU, Lehigh) - 24.66

Maryland (Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UMD) - 28.66

Texas (Rice, UT Austin, Texas A&M) - 32.33

Georgia (Emory, Georgia Tech, UGA) - 35.66

Virginia (UVA, W&M, Virginia Tech) - 38.33

Indiana (Notre Dame, Purdue, IU Bloomington) - 45

New Jersey (Princeton, Rutgers, Stevens Institute of Technology) - 45.33

Florida (UF, FSU, UMiami) - 50.66

- Regional Supremacy: To determine which of the four US regions have the best schools, I took the five highest ranked schools from each region and calculated their average rank. To determine which states fall within each of the regions, I used the US Census Bureau's interpretation of what the regions are. Just like with state supremacy, this was for fun and still an imperfect measure of school quality in each region.

Northeast (MIT, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Penn) - unsurprisingly

Midwest (Northwestern, UChicago, UMich, WashU, Notre Dame)

South (Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice, UNC, UF)

West (Stanford, Caltech, UCLA, Berkeley, USC)

- Mind the Gap: There are a few large gaps between spots in the ranking. The first major gap is between #5 (tied) Duke/Yale and #7 Penn. There are more big gaps between #23 Berkeley and #24 UVA, #28 (tied) Emory/USC and #30 Georgia Tech, #42 Tufts and #43 NYU, #52 (tied) CWRU/Texas A&M and #54 Villanova, and a final large gap between the #66 OSU (Ohio) and #67 UMiami.

Since when is Georgetown in Maryland?

From January of 1789 to July of 1790.

I need to invite you to my dinner parties.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh sh*t, where’s Pitt???

Across the plaza from CMU.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke way to high. Every ivy should be above Duke Northwestern and Hopkins forever and always. Switch Chicago and Vandy. Georgetown really should be 18-20 not sure people realize how elite it is. I am an East Coast/Ivy w-ore.

Every ivy is above Hopkins on the ranking, which is actually reasonable. Duke is super elite, seems like people here just hate it for some reason. Northwestern is great as well, it's well deserved to be in the middle pack of ivies

MIT is a fabulous school that has ridden the tech wave to the top of several rankings recently but it doesn't have close to the name recognition of Harvard, Stanford, Yale, and Princeton. It also doesn't have the financial resources or endowment of those schools. #5 and the beginning of that almost top-tier seems about right.

Go overseas. The only colleges foreigners seem to know are Harvard, Stanford, and MIT. Especially in Asia - everyone knows Harvard is for the soft rich kids of the elite, whereas MIT and Stanford are for the grinder geniuses.

100% MIT has a "genius" aura in many parts of the world. Harvard being for soft rich kids of the elite is kind of an inaccurate depiction, the influential internationals who go to Harvard are extremely elite, and most of the internationals at Harvard will be genius level as well

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Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

There are not 13 ranking lists that get sufficient traction and eyeballs for this to matter. They might as well have included a few of our personal rankings lists using criteria we developed!

Per the original Reddit post: "That's actually exactly the reason I included all 13, so that their methodologies balance out to find the schools that are excellent across the board. In a nutshell, the rankings like Forbes, Washington Monthly, and Money care more about which schools provide high social mobility and opportunity access for lower income students while minimizing debt, rankings like WSJ/THE, Degree Choices, and WalletHub care more about pure earning potential, student outcomes, and ROI, rankings like US News, College Raptor, and College Simply care more about the achievements of students entering the college, the resources of the college, and the reputation of the college, and rankings like Niche and College Consensus care more about the overall student experience beyond just academics, such as student satisfaction/happiness, food, campus life and amenities, etc. So, by finding which schools are the best through my aggregate ranking, we find which schools succeed in all of these manners that singular rankings such as US News or Forbes might undervalue or miss completely."

We all know the Washington Monthly ranking was pure dog shit and I haven’t even heard of two-thirds of the others. Niche is typically garbage as well.

What makes Washington Monthly dogshit? I personally think it's one of the best ranking systems out there. What do you disagree with in their methodology?

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wait I'll come up with 14th

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to get a job.

Sorry your school didn't do well but whoever made it on Reddit is a high school senior, and it's a very popular post

Oh sorry, I didnt realize it was a very popular post on reddit. Let me retract me statement. s/

Unironically you've spent about the same time as I did copy-and-pasting from Reddit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh sh*t, where’s Pitt???

I was also surprised to not see pitt, if you have a reddit account maybe ask Im curious too, maybe they forgot to include pitt or it just did really poorly in the other rankings

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

There are not 13 ranking lists that get sufficient traction and eyeballs for this to matter. They might as well have included a few of our personal rankings lists using criteria we developed!

Per the original Reddit post: "That's actually exactly the reason I included all 13, so that their methodologies balance out to find the schools that are excellent across the board. In a nutshell, the rankings like Forbes, Washington Monthly, and Money care more about which schools provide high social mobility and opportunity access for lower income students while minimizing debt, rankings like WSJ/THE, Degree Choices, and WalletHub care more about pure earning potential, student outcomes, and ROI, rankings like US News, College Raptor, and College Simply care more about the achievements of students entering the college, the resources of the college, and the reputation of the college, and rankings like Niche and College Consensus care more about the overall student experience beyond just academics, such as student satisfaction/happiness, food, campus life and amenities, etc. So, by finding which schools are the best through my aggregate ranking, we find which schools succeed in all of these manners that singular rankings such as US News or Forbes might undervalue or miss completely."

We all know the Washington Monthly ranking was pure dog shit and I haven’t even heard of two-thirds of the others. Niche is typically garbage as well.

What makes Washington Monthly dogshit? I personally think it's one of the best ranking systems out there. What do you disagree with in their methodology?

Nearly every single ranking is ridiculous but let’s start with UC Davis and BYU in the top 15 and National Louis (whatever that is) in the top 20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this on Reddit, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

It took the 13 most popular undergraduate rankings and used the averages to find an overall rank. I recommend looking at the original post on Reddit because it has a lot of cool data that goes with it to explain what's going on, but for those who just want a sneak peak of the results:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. Duke
5. Yale
7. Penn
8. Caltech
9. Columbia
9. Northwestern
11. Vanderbilt
12. Rice
13. Dartmouth
14. UChicago
15. Brown
16. Cornell
17. UMich
18. Johns Hopkins
19. WashU
20. Notre Dame

There are not 13 ranking lists that get sufficient traction and eyeballs for this to matter. They might as well have included a few of our personal rankings lists using criteria we developed!

Per the original Reddit post: "That's actually exactly the reason I included all 13, so that their methodologies balance out to find the schools that are excellent across the board. In a nutshell, the rankings like Forbes, Washington Monthly, and Money care more about which schools provide high social mobility and opportunity access for lower income students while minimizing debt, rankings like WSJ/THE, Degree Choices, and WalletHub care more about pure earning potential, student outcomes, and ROI, rankings like US News, College Raptor, and College Simply care more about the achievements of students entering the college, the resources of the college, and the reputation of the college, and rankings like Niche and College Consensus care more about the overall student experience beyond just academics, such as student satisfaction/happiness, food, campus life and amenities, etc. So, by finding which schools are the best through my aggregate ranking, we find which schools succeed in all of these manners that singular rankings such as US News or Forbes might undervalue or miss completely."

We all know the Washington Monthly ranking was pure dog shit and I haven’t even heard of two-thirds of the others. Niche is typically garbage as well.

What makes Washington Monthly dogshit? I personally think it's one of the best ranking systems out there. What do you disagree with in their methodology?

Nearly every single ranking is ridiculous but let’s start with UC Davis and BYU in the top 15 and National Louis (whatever that is) in the top 20.

So you just don't like where some schools are placed? You can say that for any ranking. You should find things you disagree with in the methodology, otherwise you're just going off the eyeball test of whatever schools you're conditioned to see be higher or lower. It's good to have ranking systems that care about economic mobility, low-income access, etc. which Washington Monthly does a great job at. BYU is a great school at an incredible cost, I'm glad to see it getting some love, even though I'm not crazy about Mormons.

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Has the “Northeastern is T20” booster checked in?

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Anonymous wrote:Duke way to high. Every ivy should be above Duke Northwestern and Hopkins forever and always. Switch Chicago and Vandy. Georgetown really should be 18-20 not sure people realize how elite it is. I am an East Coast/Ivy w-ore.

Agree with most of this but Gtown is definitely not elite.

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Anonymous wrote:How could this be once a week, it was published on Reddit yesterday

Because someone posts rankings here -of dubious quality -at least once a week