WHY DO RICH PEOPLE LOVE QUIET?

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Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

This. Residents in cities are actually really hardcore about not having other residents overstep their entitlement. Longtime city dwellers don't excuse crap behavior by saying "it's a city..." They are really serious about making living close together work by demanding people respect their personal space.

Good points.

(I posted a couple of times up thread. Not trying to be a sock puppet.)

Totally. All these idiots defending loud azz blaring music probably live in the suburbs and think they’re woke and trying to respect cultural norms or whatever. No dude. I live in the middle of the city and constant blasting of music isn’t cool. This isn’t me insulting someone’s “culture”. There is no “loud culture” that deserves to be allowed to just be loud. All these “ endless loud noise apologists” need to stfu.

Yeah no.

Sincerely,
UWS resident

Um, yes. Upper West Sider? Some of the most performative and least real folks around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

But that is how some neighborhoods roll and have for decades. People congregate on stoops, street corners, etc. Someone connects to a wifi speaker and the night gets started. I don't want to live in a neighborhood like that, so I search accordingly when moving. If that is how the neighbors socialize, why do newcomers get more of a say?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

But that is how some neighborhoods roll and have for decades. People congregate on stoops, street corners, etc. Someone connects to a wifi speaker and the night gets started. I don't want to live in a neighborhood like that, so I search accordingly when moving. If that is how the neighbors socialize, why do newcomers get more of a say?

Totally. It’s like if a bunch of people were used to doing heroin and some stupid new comer came in and was like “can you stop doing heroin near my apartment?” like they would be totally stupid gentrifiers. Na mean? Like you can’t just come in a to a place and expect people to act civilly or even consider their noise. It’s offensive to want to maybe have a little quieter or even change anything

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

But that is how some neighborhoods roll and have for decades. People congregate on stoops, street corners, etc. Someone connects to a wifi speaker and the night gets started. I don't want to live in a neighborhood like that, so I search accordingly when moving. If that is how the neighbors socialize, why do newcomers get more of a say?

Totally. It’s like if a bunch of people were used to doing heroin and some stupid new comer came in and was like “can you stop doing heroin near my apartment?” like they would be totally stupid gentrifiers. Na mean? Like you can’t just come in a to a place and expect people to act civilly or even consider their noise. It’s offensive to want to maybe have a little quieter or even change anything

That was satire.

[Anonymous]

Quiet = organization, orderliness, calm
Loud = chaos, disorganization, high emotion

Rich people work hard so they don’t have to deal with chaotic people and situations. If they hear noise, they want to be the ones who are making it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

But that is how some neighborhoods roll and have for decades. People congregate on stoops, street corners, etc. Someone connects to a wifi speaker and the night gets started. I don't want to live in a neighborhood like that, so I search accordingly when moving. If that is how the neighbors socialize, why do newcomers get more of a say?

Because newcomers do not come one at a time. They come in bunches and pretty fast end of being either the majority or a large percentage. When that happens they control. Time there does not mean anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

That is the way the world works. And indeed if the pig farm had been there for 100 years, the new residents could sue and stop the pig farm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

But that is how some neighborhoods roll and have for decades. People congregate on stoops, street corners, etc. Someone connects to a wifi speaker and the night gets started. I don't want to live in a neighborhood like that, so I search accordingly when moving. If that is how the neighbors socialize, why do newcomers get more of a say?

Totally. It’s like if a bunch of people were used to doing heroin and some stupid new comer came in and was like “can you stop doing heroin near my apartment?” like they would be totally stupid gentrifiers. Na mean? Like you can’t just come in a to a place and expect people to act civilly or even consider their noise. It’s offensive to want to maybe have a little quieter or even change anything

Is this supposed to be AAVE?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Reminds me of this movie scene. 😂

[Anonymous]

Noise contributes to the poor academic performance of children in these neighborhoods.

Guess they don't care. Having too much fun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you work with kids, your ears are still thrumming at day’s end. I don’t need other people’s noise; I need calm to think for the next day.
Didn’t understand that at all when I was a child.

Assuming your noise is a joy to everyone else is selfish.

Expecting your neighbors in a place you CHOSE to live near others to live like they're in a library so they don't offend your delicate sensibilities is peak snowflake behavior. Cope.

And while I’m peering up at you in your righteous tower of oblivion, the assumption that everyone has choices about where they live shows more of your limited perceptions.
-currently living someplace not upscale and not constantly noisy and know I’m lucky.

This is laughable, since I'm likely in the bottom 5% (or lower) of DCUM HHIs and live where I can afford, in a lowly place that has plenty of noise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you work with kids, your ears are still thrumming at day’s end. I don’t need other people’s noise; I need calm to think for the next day.
Didn’t understand that at all when I was a child.

Assuming your noise is a joy to everyone else is selfish.

Expecting your neighbors in a place you CHOSE to live near others to live like they're in a library so they don't offend your delicate sensibilities is peak snowflake behavior. Cope.

No one expects to live in a library, so you can chill out on the hyperbole.

Most folks just don’t need a big azz apeaker blasting gogo on Florida avenue to blast that music endlessly all day and night. Some people need sleep. Even those rich jerks who bought a condo across the street. Are you arguing it’s cultural to be incredibly loud? That’s racist.

Oh, I'm so embarrassed for you. Truly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

This. Residents in cities are actually really hardcore about not having other residents overstep their entitlement. Longtime city dwellers don't excuse crap behavior by saying "it's a city..." They are really serious about making living close together work by demanding people respect their personal space.

Good points.

(I posted a couple of times up thread. Not trying to be a sock puppet.)

Totally. All these idiots defending loud azz blaring music probably live in the suburbs and think they’re woke and trying to respect cultural norms or whatever. No dude. I live in the middle of the city and constant blasting of music isn’t cool. This isn’t me insulting someone’s “culture”. There is no “loud culture” that deserves to be allowed to just be loud. All these “ endless loud noise apologists” need to stfu.

You need to stop telling people to "STFU." You *vastly* overestimate your own importance.

[Anonymous]

UMC and rich people have to wake up and go to work in the morning... so they can support all of the people out on the stoop (including the scholarship for the author).

[Anonymous]

I am not rich and I love quiet.

How can I cash in on this preference?