WHY DO RICH PEOPLE LOVE QUIET?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you work with kids, your ears are still thrumming at day’s end. I don’t need other people’s noise; I need calm to think for the next day.
Didn’t understand that at all when I was a child.

Assuming your noise is a joy to everyone else is selfish.

Expecting your neighbors in a place you CHOSE to live near others to live like they're in a library so they don't offend your delicate sensibilities is peak snowflake behavior. Cope.

And while I’m peering up at you in your righteous tower of oblivion, the assumption that everyone has choices about where they live shows more of your limited perceptions.
-currently living someplace not upscale and not constantly noisy and know I’m lucky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you work with kids, your ears are still thrumming at day’s end. I don’t need other people’s noise; I need calm to think for the next day.
Didn’t understand that at all when I was a child.

Assuming your noise is a joy to everyone else is selfish.

Expecting your neighbors in a place you CHOSE to live near others to live like they're in a library so they don't offend your delicate sensibilities is peak snowflake behavior. Cope.

Oh my. Sorry you are so disturbed by someone sharing their experience. Libraries are far from quiet in our world, and that is not a complaint.

I don’t want to share your experience. Why not keep your experience to yourself like polite people? What if your experience infringes on my experience? Is that fair?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you work with kids, your ears are still thrumming at day’s end. I don’t need other people’s noise; I need calm to think for the next day.
Didn’t understand that at all when I was a child.

Assuming your noise is a joy to everyone else is selfish.

Expecting your neighbors in a place you CHOSE to live near others to live like they're in a library so they don't offend your delicate sensibilities is peak snowflake behavior. Cope.

And while I’m peering up at you in your righteous tower of oblivion, the assumption that everyone has choices about where they live shows more of your limited perceptions.
-currently living someplace not upscale and not constantly noisy and know I’m lucky.

I don’t understand what you’re advocating. Are you saying it’s okay for people to be loud or not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you work with kids, your ears are still thrumming at day’s end. I don’t need other people’s noise; I need calm to think for the next day.
Didn’t understand that at all when I was a child.

Assuming your noise is a joy to everyone else is selfish.

Expecting your neighbors in a place you CHOSE to live near others to live like they're in a library so they don't offend your delicate sensibilities is peak snowflake behavior. Cope.

Oh my. Sorry you are so disturbed by someone sharing their experience. Libraries are far from quiet in our world, and that is not a complaint.

I don’t want to share your experience. Why not keep your experience to yourself like polite people? What if your experience infringes on my experience? Is that fair?

Silly you. Don’t read it. Don’t read DCUM.
That was easy and quiet.
If you want noise, read it out loud.
Nice to have choices. Not everyone does

[Anonymous]

Are these people who grew up in cities? I lived in a city til I was 8 and never thought twice about the noise. It meant the world was ticking along all around me. Lots of people living out their lives. Dogs barking to warn baddies away. People drawing attention to themselves, so you knew they probably weren’t up to no good. Sirens going to let you know even if a bad thing happened, someone was on the way to get it fixed up.

When we moved, the silence was unbearable and lonely. It felt so unsafe, like anyone could be skulking out there in the darkness and you wouldn’t know til they were right at your window.

I like and appreciate quiet now, but noise has its own virtues. People moving to the city only to complain about the noise get about as much sympathy from me as people who move into agricultural areas and start complaining about the smell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

No. You move in numbers and get prior residents to move out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are these people who grew up in cities? I lived in a city til I was 8 and never thought twice about the noise. It meant the world was ticking along all around me. Lots of people living out their lives. Dogs barking to warn baddies away. People drawing attention to themselves, so you knew they probably weren’t up to no good. Sirens going to let you know even if a bad thing happened, someone was on the way to get it fixed up.

When we moved, the silence was unbearable and lonely. It felt so unsafe, like anyone could be skulking out there in the darkness and you wouldn’t know til they were right at your window.

I like and appreciate quiet now, but noise has its own virtues. People moving to the city only to complain about the noise get about as much sympathy from me as people who move into agricultural areas and start complaining about the smell.

Thing is there are different kinds of city noise. I have also always lived in central city neighborhoods in the US and Europe. I find places without background noise to be creepy. I like to hear the ebb and flow of traffic and activity at some distance and miss that when I'm outside central cities. BUT I also don't want to hear someone's pounding bass (ever, really) or late night talking/laughing parked right outside my bedroom window. There are incidental daily life noises and then there are inconsiderate noises that carry during the wrong times and in the wrong spaces.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

This. Residents in cities are actually really hardcore about not having other residents overstep their entitlement. Longtime city dwellers don't excuse crap behavior by saying "it's a city..." They are really serious about making living close together work by demanding people respect their personal space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

This. Residents in cities are actually really hardcore about not having other residents overstep their entitlement. Longtime city dwellers don't excuse crap behavior by saying "it's a city..." They are really serious about making living close together work by demanding people respect their personal space.

Good points.

(I posted a couple of times up thread. Not trying to be a sock puppet.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

This. Residents in cities are actually really hardcore about not having other residents overstep their entitlement. Longtime city dwellers don't excuse crap behavior by saying "it's a city..." They are really serious about making living close together work by demanding people respect their personal space.

Good points.

(I posted a couple of times up thread. Not trying to be a sock puppet.)

Totally. All these idiots defending loud azz blaring music probably live in the suburbs and think they’re woke and trying to respect cultural norms or whatever. No dude. I live in the middle of the city and constant blasting of music isn’t cool. This isn’t me insulting someone’s “culture”. There is no “loud culture” that deserves to be allowed to just be loud. All these “ endless loud noise apologists” need to stfu.

[Anonymous]

I'm not rich. I'm a teacher and quiet is hard to come by during the school year. I'm at the beach this week and there is nothing better than the sound of the waves and nobody talking to me. Priceless.

[Anonymous]

“I’m going to speak confidently out of my rear end and just posit that some cultures are just loud and should be allowed to be! Living in the city and blaring music all night, yelling and screaming, and super loud taking are not to questioned! This is something I learned at Vassar! If you can’t appreciate it, leave the city!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gonzalez was interviewed just a bit ago on WNYC about her article - https://www.wnyc.org/story/wealth-and-silence. Perhaps I am misremembering, but I think she was a little less broad in her on-air comments, discerning between constant noise v an occasional celebration. As a city dweller, it did prompt me to consider her observations, though I gotta say that Sunday-Thursday night seems off limits for at-home revelry given possible school and work demands.

Wasn't there an incident some years ago in Chevy Chase with a Sunday night BD party and a DJ?

Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Look at most of Xochitel’s writing. See a pattern? Is she peddling grievance to a culture that clicks on stories, and pay in views, that love hot button issues right now like gentrification and social injustice?

I could tell by the title that she was going to btch about how essentially hoity toity rich gentrifying caucasoids are too uptight and don’t like the rich culture and rhythm of a vibrant noisy city etc. when in actuality not everyone wants to hear reggaeton blasting out of windows when they walk down the street in Williamsburg. Our culture in recent years has just gone off the deep end selling stories of complaint. At some point will we all just fall apart from being unable to cope with life?

But shouldn't folks just avoid the reggaeton blasts by not moving into Williamsburg and similar neighborhoods in the first place? I think of it similarly to farms and recently arrived rural residents. We grew up down wind of a couple of chicken and pig farms. Not always the most pleasant, but they had been farming there as long as my dad had grown up on the street where we lived. No one thought much about it. Slowly folks started buying land, building homes, then demanding that the smell stop. Are these folks really supposed to stop farming because the new residents' olfactory nerves are offended? Nah, I don't think so. It is what it is.

Your analogy is flawed. It would be more correct to expect noise when you move into an apartment above a nightclub. You would expect loud music and rowdy clubs at all hours of the night if you were to move above it. I would not expect continuous loud music in the middle of the night when moving to a neighborhood, even in the midst of a city.

This. Residents in cities are actually really hardcore about not having other residents overstep their entitlement. Longtime city dwellers don't excuse crap behavior by saying "it's a city..." They are really serious about making living close together work by demanding people respect their personal space.

Good points.

(I posted a couple of times up thread. Not trying to be a sock puppet.)

Totally. All these idiots defending loud azz blaring music probably live in the suburbs and think they’re woke and trying to respect cultural norms or whatever. No dude. I live in the middle of the city and constant blasting of music isn’t cool. This isn’t me insulting someone’s “culture”. There is no “loud culture” that deserves to be allowed to just be loud. All these “ endless loud noise apologists” need to stfu.

Yeah no.

Sincerely,
UWS resident