Why are parents allowed to opt out of sex ed?

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Anonymous wrote:It's how school systems manage the crazy parents. My school district got tired of parents griping about school library books so now they let parents opt their kids out of the library - problem solved!

See. I hate quotes like this.

Just because I don't want my 12 year to listen to their 55 year old gym-turned-health teacher discuss anal sex, that makes me a 'crazy parent'

Just because people have different levels of comfort than you does not make them crazy

Yeah that’s not what happens. At all. Pervert.

That's LITERALLY what happened at DC's school. DC had health for one quarter. Taught by the gym teacher.; in the class, they discussed anal sex. After one quarter of health, the class switched to PE

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Anonymous wrote:It's how school systems manage the crazy parents. My school district got tired of parents griping about school library books so now they let parents opt their kids out of the library - problem solved!

See. I hate quotes like this.

Just because I don't want my 12 year to listen to their 55 year old gym-turned-health teacher discuss anal sex, that makes me a 'crazy parent'

Just because people have different levels of comfort than you does not make them crazy

Yeah that’s not what happens. At all. Pervert.

That's LITERALLY what happened at DC's school. DC had health for one quarter. Taught by the gym teacher.; in the class, they discussed anal sex. After one quarter of health, the class switched to PE

What grade at what school?

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Anonymous wrote:All Catholics are opposed to birth control (except natural rhythm family planning) and also oppose all abortion.

Why should they be forced to learn in school that these things are OK ?

Because it is. My goodness. The creators of the Magdalene laundries should not be the ones having any say at all in sex education

Or birth control.

Or bodily autonomy.

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Anonymous wrote:All Catholics are opposed to birth control (except natural rhythm family planning) and also oppose all abortion.

Why should they be forced to learn in school that these things are OK ?

Because it is. My goodness. The creators of the Magdalene laundries should not be the ones having any say at all in sex education

“Because it is” ??

According to who? You?

Who put you in charge of Roman Catholic views on the use of birth control?

And, you seem to believe the government should supersede parents on the topic of sex, birth control, abortion, etc. ??

Please explain why you hate the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

Please explain why you are sending your children to public school?

Because if you would like your children to be taught Catholic views (which are not the same thing as facts), you should be sending them to Catholic schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours

Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it

Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours

Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it

How do you control what he discusses with his friends?

“Advanced sex topics” have been introduced to our kids by friends with older siblings.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours

Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it

Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.

Or because they think they can’t get pregnant that way/are still a virgin if it’s not piv.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours

Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it

Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.

It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours

Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it

Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.

It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).

I was responding to a PP saying that their kid didn't need to learn about anal sex because that how gay people have sex, implying that there's no way that their kid could be LGBTQ or have anal sex

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours

Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it

Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.

It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).

I was responding to a PP saying that their kid didn't need to learn about anal sex because that how gay people have sex, implying that there's no way that their kid could be LGBTQ or have anal sex

NP - but I didn’t see people objecting to it bc it’s homosexual. Maybe I’m wrong but you seem to jumping to conclusions that they are homophonic

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Then what *is* the objection, exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours

Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it

Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.

It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).

I was responding to a PP saying that their kid didn't need to learn about anal sex because that how gay people have sex, implying that there's no way that their kid could be LGBTQ or have anal sex

NP - but I didn’t see people objecting to it bc it’s homosexual. Maybe I’m wrong but you seem to jumping to conclusions that they are homophonic

The only reason anal sex was ever considered a taboo in Western culture was hetero-normative indoctrination, which stems solely from homophobia.

It is not taboo, nor wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous. They're just setting their kids up for failure.

I'm reading a book written for adults of childhood dysfunction. An example of a boundary dysfunctional parents abuse is not teaching kids about sex. Keeping important information from them is abusive.

I work in criminal justice and there are multiple studies that children who learn about sex and proper terms early on are less likely to be victims of abuse than children who are not informed.

Parents who opt out of this are doing their children a disservice.

You raise your kids, I’ll raise mine. I know mine will be ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours

Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it

Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.

It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).

I was responding to a PP saying that their kid didn't need to learn about anal sex because that how gay people have sex, implying that there's no way that their kid could be LGBTQ or have anal sex

NP - but I didn’t see people objecting to it bc it’s homosexual. Maybe I’m wrong but you seem to jumping to conclusions that they are homophonic

The only reason anal sex was ever considered a taboo in Western culture was hetero-normative indoctrination, which stems solely from homophobia.

It is not taboo, nor wrong.

Not saying it’s wrong…just not how we we evolved so it might not be too good for you.

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It’s the law.