Why are parents allowed to opt out of sex ed?

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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous. They're just setting their kids up for failure.




I'm reading a book written for adults of childhood dysfunction. An example of a boundary dysfunctional parents abuse is not teaching kids about sex. Keeping important information from them is abusive.


I work in criminal justice and there are multiple studies that children who learn about sex and proper terms early on are less likely to be victims of abuse than children who are not informed.

Parents who opt out of this are doing their children a disservice.


Hope nothing bad
You raise your kids, I’ll raise mine. I know mine will be ok.


Why are you so afraid of words? Is your child's life going to be ruined if they hear the word penis or vagina?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.


It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).


I was responding to a PP saying that their kid didn't need to learn about anal sex because that how gay people have sex, implying that there's no way that their kid could be LGBTQ or have anal sex


NP - but I didn’t see people objecting to it bc it’s homosexual. Maybe I’m wrong but you seem to jumping to conclusions that they are homophonic


The only reason anal sex was ever considered a taboo in Western culture was hetero-normative indoctrination, which stems solely from homophobia.

It is not taboo, nor wrong.


Not saying it’s wrong…just not how we we evolved so it might not be too good for you.


Uhh people have evolved to do all kinds of crazy sex things.
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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous. They're just setting their kids up for failure.




I'm reading a book written for adults of childhood dysfunction. An example of a boundary dysfunctional parents abuse is not teaching kids about sex. Keeping important information from them is abusive.


I work in criminal justice and there are multiple studies that children who learn about sex and proper terms early on are less likely to be victims of abuse than children who are not informed.

Parents who opt out of this are doing their children a disservice.


Hope nothing bad
You raise your kids, I’ll raise mine. I know mine will be ok.


Why are you so afraid of words? Is your child's life going to be ruined if they hear the word penis or vagina?


My kids know those words. We use them from birth. I don’t want teachers at school discussing sexual topics with my kids but it’s got nothing to do with my kids not knowing correct terminology.
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Why are parents allowed to parent?

Don’t you know children belong to the state?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.


It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).


I was responding to a PP saying that their kid didn't need to learn about anal sex because that how gay people have sex, implying that there's no way that their kid could be LGBTQ or have anal sex


NP - but I didn’t see people objecting to it bc it’s homosexual. Maybe I’m wrong but you seem to jumping to conclusions that they are homophonic


The only reason anal sex was ever considered a taboo in Western culture was hetero-normative indoctrination, which stems solely from homophobia.

It is not taboo, nor wrong.


Not saying it’s wrong…just not how we we evolved so it might not be too good for you.


Uhh people have evolved to do all kinds of crazy sex things.
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oh really, can someone get pregnant from anal sex?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.


It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).


I'm hoping this is sarcasm. The human body is not meant to do this over the long term, and it causes health problems. So yeah, there's something wrong with it.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand. We don’t allow parents to opt out of reading and math.


The gay sex unit is pretty long. Can you opt out of that?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.


It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).


I was responding to a PP saying that their kid didn't need to learn about anal sex because that how gay people have sex, implying that there's no way that their kid could be LGBTQ or have anal sex


NP - but I didn’t see people objecting to it bc it’s homosexual. Maybe I’m wrong but you seem to jumping to conclusions that they are homophonic


The only reason anal sex was ever considered a taboo in Western culture was hetero-normative indoctrination, which stems solely from homophobia.

It is not taboo, nor wrong.


Not saying it’s wrong…just not how we we evolved so it might not be too good for you.


Uhh people have evolved to do all kinds of crazy sex things.


Exactly. Just copy what the monkeys do and how the main male gorilla treats the other males and females. Lots of poking, prodding, touching everything, everywhere. Very evolved.
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Parents are tired of the “progressive” political agenda getting shoved down their childrens’ throats. Enough is enough already. Most parents were unaware until recently.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


Straight people have anal sex too.

And there are kids out there that will have unprotected anal sex to avoid pregnancy or just because it's something that they are in p*rn.


It’s over 50% now. The percent increases every year.

And it’s extremely homophobic to suggest there is anything whatsoever wrong with it (between consenting people of age, of course).


I was responding to a PP saying that their kid didn't need to learn about anal sex because that how gay people have sex, implying that there's no way that their kid could be LGBTQ or have anal sex


NP - but I didn’t see people objecting to it bc it’s homosexual. Maybe I’m wrong but you seem to jumping to conclusions that they are homophonic


The only reason anal sex was ever considered a taboo in Western culture was hetero-normative indoctrination, which stems solely from homophobia.

It is not taboo, nor wrong.


Not saying it’s wrong…just not how we we evolved so it might not be too good for you.


Uhh people have evolved to do all kinds of crazy sex things.
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oh really, can someone get pregnant from anal sex?


The main point is have PrEP at home all the time. Kids age 12+ need to know that.
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Anonymous wrote:Some of us want to teach about it ourselves - we are more equipped to explain the nuances and tailor the instruction based on our child's maturity level and our own respective values.



Please give examples of what you would provide vs the school.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't want my 4th grader know how to perform intercourse inpublic.


So what have you taught your child about sex in private? Because mine first asked how babies are made at 4 and has known about sex since she was 6 or 7. She also knows her body is not ready for that yet.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't want my 4th grader know how to perform intercourse inpublic.


Did you review the sex ed materials before you made this decision?

How informed was your decision?


My DD read a lot of books, including anatomy of human body. Sex ed was focused on safe sex and condoms. It was too much for any 4th graders. If you want your 4th graders to be sexually active, it is your choice.


I live in Fairfax County, there is absolutely nothing about safe sex and condoms in the 4th grade curriculum. Don't be ridiculous you freak.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


This is not being taught during Family Life Education in public schools. You.Are.Lying.


nj1015.com/your-8th-grader-will-now-be-taught-anal-sex-in-health-class-opinion/

You might always want to review the materials before you send your child. Oral and anal are discussed/defined in fairfax health as well


NP. Here is the FFX plan:

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AYKU7H699ED9/$file/FLECAC%20Annual%20Recommendations%20Report%202017_18_051018g.pdf


Looks like, from pages 9-11 (maybe others) they are discussing the specific behaviors and their effect on transmission of STDs, including AIDS.

While AIDS can be transmitted through blood transfusions, heterosexual PIV sex, etc, the highest probability it still from anal sexual penetration by a person infected with HIV.

They are teaching that in FFX schools.


GOOD. Because #momma #boymom #winemom isn't teaching it her precious little snowflakes.
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