Hogan orders suspension of “good and substantial reason” for gun permits

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is he doing this? We are complying with the constitution? I thought SCOTUS wanted states to decide these issues. How can Hogan do this unilaterally? I am already so scared about gun violence in this area.

https://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-gun-laws-md-state-police-governor-larry-hogan-permit-wear-carry-weapon-supreme-court-ruling-new-york-law-provisions-standards-handgun

“Shall not be infringed”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I just went through the MD Wear and Carry class because I was curious about what it required, and am of the opinion that it presents a fairly high barrier for a Constitutional right. It was $400, 2 full days (16 hours) , and then actually applying for the permit requires additional fees and paperwork - including multiple not-related references, fingerprints, and an extensive background check. I'm told MD typically uses the full 90 days they have to grant the permit, if granted. My class had a decent mix of races, although few women, lest one think this is just a bunch of white dudes trying to compensate for something. There is a shooting portion of the class where you must make a minimum score in order to pass. In many ways, it reminded me of the "this is everything that can go wrong and how you're going to die" drivers ed training I had in the 1980s. Then assuming you're going to carry, you have to purchase and license a handgun. And you have to maintain your Wear and Carry permit, which is every 2 years (3 after the first renewal) requiring an additional $200 fee and full day (8 hour) class, including the shooting test, and gives the state another opportunity to revoke your permit if in the past 2/3 years you have done something to indicate you are not a safe and sober person. This is not a one time thing, it requires consistent effort and expense. SCOTUS only struck down requiring a "good and substantial reason" (because in MD, self-defense was insufficient. You needed to provide multiple police records, if you weren't a well-connected, wealthy white dude who could find someone connected to back your permit application).

That’s too easy!!!!!

I want it to stay the old way - where only wealthy or well connected white guys like my husband could get a permit. That was so much better!

I don’t want a bunch of emotional women, poors, and minorities being able to get permits to. And I will support any Dem who will keep that from happening.

So are you saying that bureaucratic hurdles disproportionately affect poor people and people of color? Do you accept that premise when it comes to voting, education, healthcare, dealing with the justice system, etc?

[Anonymous]

Do people need to take multiple paid classes which may or may not be eased to get to or fit in their schedules to be allowed to vote?

This hardly compares.

It should be made easy for all Americans to access a polling place. Efforts to close locations or set short voting hours should be heavily scrutinized/blocked.

ID should be required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is he doing this? We are complying with the constitution? I thought SCOTUS wanted states to decide these issues. How can Hogan do this unilaterally? I am already so scared about gun violence in this area.

https://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-gun-laws-md-state-police-governor-larry-hogan-permit-wear-carry-weapon-supreme-court-ruling-new-york-law-provisions-standards-handgun

“Shall not be infringed”

“Well regulated “

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is he doing this? We are complying with the constitution? I thought SCOTUS wanted states to decide these issues. How can Hogan do this unilaterally? I am already so scared about gun violence in this area.

https://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-gun-laws-md-state-police-governor-larry-hogan-permit-wear-carry-weapon-supreme-court-ruling-new-york-law-provisions-standards-handgun

“Shall not be infringed”

“Well regulated “

Let's start with the possibility that you might not understand what "well regulated" meant at the time. Can you solve for yourself what it actually meant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do people need to take multiple paid classes which may or may not be eased to get to or fit in their schedules to be allowed to vote?

This hardly compares.

It should be made easy for all Americans to access a polling place. Efforts to close locations or set short voting hours should be heavily scrutinized/blocked.

ID should be required.

That’s not really the point- are you saying that bureaucratic hurdles disproportionately impact poor people and people of color? We accept bureaucracy as part of administering basically anything but if you recognize its disproportionate impacts that’s actually a very progressive position. I wonder if the original pp considers herself progressive?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is he doing this? We are complying with the constitution? I thought SCOTUS wanted states to decide these issues. How can Hogan do this unilaterally? I am already so scared about gun violence in this area.

https://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-gun-laws-md-state-police-governor-larry-hogan-permit-wear-carry-weapon-supreme-court-ruling-new-york-law-provisions-standards-handgun

“Shall not be infringed”

“Well regulated “

Let's start with the possibility that you might not understand what "well regulated" meant at the time. Can you solve for yourself what it actually meant?

What did “arms” mean at the time, pp? Does this mean the only guns you have a right to are muskets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is he doing this? We are complying with the constitution? I thought SCOTUS wanted states to decide these issues. How can Hogan do this unilaterally? I am already so scared about gun violence in this area.

https://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-gun-laws-md-state-police-governor-larry-hogan-permit-wear-carry-weapon-supreme-court-ruling-new-york-law-provisions-standards-handgun

“Shall not be infringed”

“Well regulated “

Let's start with the possibility that you might not understand what "well regulated" meant at the time. Can you solve for yourself what it actually meant?

What did “arms” mean at the time, pp? Does this mean the only guns you have a right to are muskets?

DP. Just like your freedom of speech only applies to a printing press.