APS -- Want to return but spouse resistant -- please clarify curriculum 5th grade

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Arlington doesn't report percentiles for the DIEBELS or Math Inventory scores, just the grade level benchmark.

Yes they do. My 5th grader had DIEBELS percentiles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Arlington doesn't report percentiles for the DIEBELS or Math Inventory scores, just the grade level benchmark.

Some schools send home or email the parent report which has this info. You can ask for this from your school since it’s not in the Arlington district level document.

Our administration told us APS doesn't receive subscores. They only get the final numbers that are in the ParentVue report.

Well they’re wrong or you misunderstood. DES sent home a full report with the percentages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Arlington doesn't report percentiles for the DIEBELS or Math Inventory scores, just the grade level benchmark.

Some schools send home or email the parent report which has this info. You can ask for this from your school since it’s not in the Arlington district level document.

Our administration told us APS doesn't receive subscores. They only get the final numbers that are in the ParentVue report.

Not true at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Arlington doesn't report percentiles for the DIEBELS or Math Inventory scores, just the grade level benchmark.

Some schools send home or email the parent report which has this info. You can ask for this from your school since it’s not in the Arlington district level document.

Our administration told us APS doesn't receive subscores. They only get the final numbers that are in the ParentVue report.

Not true at all.

Well, in that case APS has chosen not to share. I asked. They said no.

[Anonymous]

Your school decided not to share. I’m a parent and our school sent home reports. I’m also a teacher and I can see and print reports for my students. And we use the specific task data to decide what support students need so just the composite wouldn’t be helpful for that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And again, why can’t APS emphasize reading and writing in school?
I don’t think parents are unreasonable for asking for a rigorous English curriculum in school.

It’s a numbers game. It’s easy to check math problems for 30 kids; simply reading 30 essays is laborious, let along thoughtful commentary.

I don't buy that excuse. My teachers did it. I don't understand why teachers today can't do it. It's part of teaching!

Equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Arlington doesn't report percentiles for the DIEBELS or Math Inventory scores, just the grade level benchmark.

Some schools send home or email the parent report which has this info. You can ask for this from your school since it’s not in the Arlington district level document.

Our administration told us APS doesn't receive subscores. They only get the final numbers that are in the ParentVue report.

Well they’re wrong or you misunderstood. DES sent home a full report with the percentages.

Interesting. NES just posted the report with the EOY score and the benchmark score from APS. I didn’t know there was anything else.

[Anonymous]

Here’s what the parent report looks like

https://dibels.amplify.com/report

Scroll down to “parent report” to see the example. The report names are in alphabetical order.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s what the parent report looks like

https://dibels.amplify.com/report

Scroll down to “parent report” to see the example. The report names are in alphabetical order.

seems like that would be good information for parents to have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Diebels seems like more of a screener for below benchmark rather than a leveling assessment ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Diebels seems like more of a screener for below benchmark rather than a leveling assessment ?

That is exactly what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Diebels seems like more of a screener for below benchmark rather than a leveling assessment ?

The point is parents are helicoptering over which/how many novels their kids are reading. If youre that concerned, get your kids more books. If they’re below benchmarks call the reading specialist. There are resources for every kid. APS is not failing kids on literacy bevy they’re not reading the same 10 novels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Diebels seems like more of a screener for below benchmark rather than a leveling assessment ?

The point is parents are helicoptering over which/how many novels their kids are reading. If youre that concerned, get your kids more books. If they’re below benchmarks call the reading specialist. There are resources for every kid. APS is not failing kids on literacy bevy they’re not reading the same 10 novels.

Isn’t the number of books assigned being used as a proxy for academic rigor? I can see the OP’s spouse may care about their child academically achieving more than merely “adequate” literacy, particularly if they’ve paid a premium to live where they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what novels my kid read in 5th this year but i just saw they scored 96-99th percentile on their reading assessments. They must be doing something right.

Diebels seems like more of a screener for below benchmark rather than a leveling assessment ?

The point is parents are helicoptering over which/how many novels their kids are reading. If youre that concerned, get your kids more books. If they’re below benchmarks call the reading specialist. There are resources for every kid. APS is not failing kids on literacy bevy they’re not reading the same 10 novels.

I mean I can get them a high powered laptop and a guitar, but I don't expect them to become a FAANG employee or rock star all on their own. Reading complex literature, understanding the themes and processing content that spans more than a paragraph are important skills for any career, and practice and instruction are part of that. Sure I can HOMESCHOOL them for their reading curriculum, but I already have a job and I hate to have my kid wasting 6 hrs of their day waiting for other kids to READ OUT LOUD.

How can there really not be more novels assigned? Why is there not earlier reading differentiation, since even at 5th grade some students are very advanced readers and need more to be challenged -- even if not marked "gifted" (and since APS switched to push in, gifted has been a bit of a farce)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


The point is parents are helicoptering over which/how many novels their kids are reading. If youre that concerned, get your kids more books. If they’re below benchmarks call the reading specialist. There are resources for every kid. APS is not failing kids on literacy bevy they’re not reading the same 10 novels.



I mean I can get them a high powered laptop and a guitar, but I don't expect them to become a FAANG employee or rock star all on their own. Reading complex literature, understanding the themes and processing content that spans more than a paragraph are important skills for any career, and practice and instruction are part of that. Sure I can HOMESCHOOL them for their reading curriculum, but I already have a job and I hate to have my kid wasting 6 hrs of their day waiting for other kids to READ OUT LOUD.

How can there really not be more novels assigned? Why is there not earlier reading differentiation, since even at 5th grade some students are very advanced readers and need more to be challenged -- even if not marked "gifted" (and since APS switched to push in, gifted has been a bit of a farce)

A couple of thoughts:

--Many parents want their kids to have choices of books to read, or object to certain novels, so assigning the same novels to all kids is something US schools have really moved away from over the last 20 years
--Many kids are more willing to read if they can make their own choices
-- Reading non-fiction is actually more important to building kids' background knowledge and vocabulary. Most schools have students reading a mix of non-fiction and fiction, and if you're not counting the non-fiction they are reading, you are missing an important factor.