Using relative's address to get child into different school district in MCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The pupil personnel worker may do a home visit if they can't verify residency.

I have never heard of this happening.

Agree. It never happens.

We know of several families that did this. One used an aunt’s address. Two used a grandparents. One used another relative.

It has NEVER been an issue. The families are open and honest that they live elsewhere.

In some cultures, your extended family is basically ‘your family’, so they feel that any address is valid. I say this as a non-White person and because all the families who did this (used a relative’s address) were also non-White.

They are lying to MCPS even if they don't lie to friends about where they live. I don't think dishonesty is limited to non-white families. I also know white families that have done this. This isn't about race. It's about honesty.

I always love these people like pp. Sitting high atop their little throne of judgement, staring down their crooked nose at others. Dishonesty is one thing. Judge not leet you be judged is another and one of which you are pitifully guilty. You have no idea what other people are doing or why or (I would wager) who is working within the rules and who isn't. I'm sure your information is based on hen cackling over the picket fence. Gossiping is another immoral, unethical sin so take a look in the mirror before you open your mouth. Minding your own business would do you a world of good.

As for the *one can ways tell* who's children are the *help* poster. You would be extraordinarily surprised to find out how little other people are fighting to get into *your* school. For most, school is an experience beyond education, including being around a community of pleasant people. Most would take a pass on raising their children around yours.

So now, it's immoral and unethical to object to a racist comment by someone who claims that minorities and immigrants make up most of the cheaters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pupil personnel worker may do a home visit if they can't verify residency.

I have never heard of this happening.

Agree. It never happens.

We know of several families that did this. One used an aunt’s address. Two used a grandparents. One used another relative.

It has NEVER been an issue. The families are open and honest that they live elsewhere.

In some cultures, your extended family is basically ‘your family’, so they feel that any address is valid. I say this as a non-White person and because all the families who did this (used a relative’s address) were also non-White.

They are lying to MCPS even if they don't lie to friends about where they live. I don't think dishonesty is limited to non-white families. I also know white families that have done this. This isn't about race. It's about honesty.

I always love these people like pp. Sitting high atop their little throne of judgement, staring down their crooked nose at others. Dishonesty is one thing. Judge not leet you be judged is another and one of which you are pitifully guilty. You have no idea what other people are doing or why or (I would wager) who is working within the rules and who isn't. I'm sure your information is based on hen cackling over the picket fence. Gossiping is another immoral, unethical sin so take a look in the mirror before you open your mouth. Minding your own business would do you a world of good.

As for the *one can ways tell* who's children are the *help* poster. You would be extraordinarily surprised to find out how little other people are fighting to get into *your* school. For most, school is an experience beyond education, including being around a community of pleasant people. Most would take a pass on raising their children around yours.

So now, it's immoral and unethical to object to a racist comment by someone who claims that minorities and immigrants make up most of the cheaters.

You misread.

[Anonymous]

This does happen. People I know who are renters had their landlords use their rental property address in order to keep their kids in a certain part of the county. The landlords asked if it would be possible to end the lease early so that they could move back in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pupil personnel worker may do a home visit if they can't verify residency.

I have never heard of this happening.

Agree. It never happens.

We know of several families that did this. One used an aunt’s address. Two used a grandparents. One used another relative.

It has NEVER been an issue. The families are open and honest that they live elsewhere.

In some cultures, your extended family is basically ‘your family’, so they feel that any address is valid. I say this as a non-White person and because all the families who did this (used a relative’s address) were also non-White.

They are lying to MCPS even if they don't lie to friends about where they live. I don't think dishonesty is limited to non-white families. I also know white families that have done this. This isn't about race. It's about honesty.

I always love these people like pp. Sitting high atop their little throne of judgement, staring down their crooked nose at others. Dishonesty is one thing. Judge not leet you be judged is another and one of which you are pitifully guilty. You have no idea what other people are doing or why or (I would wager) who is working within the rules and who isn't. I'm sure your information is based on hen cackling over the picket fence. Gossiping is another immoral, unethical sin so take a look in the mirror before you open your mouth. Minding your own business would do you a world of good.

As for the *one can ways tell* who's children are the *help* poster. You would be extraordinarily surprised to find out how little other people are fighting to get into *your* school. For most, school is an experience beyond education, including being around a community of pleasant people. Most would take a pass on raising their children around yours.

Most people know better than to send their kids to a W especially because they're well known to have many racial issues like kids running around in blackface or handing out N* word cards. The questionable benefits are greatly eclipsed by the nagatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pupil personnel worker may do a home visit if they can't verify residency.

I have never heard of this happening.

Agree. It never happens.

We know of several families that did this. One used an aunt’s address. Two used a grandparents. One used another relative.

It has NEVER been an issue. The families are open and honest that they live elsewhere.

In some cultures, your extended family is basically ‘your family’, so they feel that any address is valid. I say this as a non-White person and because all the families who did this (used a relative’s address) were also non-White.

They are lying to MCPS even if they don't lie to friends about where they live. I don't think dishonesty is limited to non-white families. I also know white families that have done this. This isn't about race. It's about honesty.

I always love these people like pp. Sitting high atop their little throne of judgement, staring down their crooked nose at others. Dishonesty is one thing. Judge not leet you be judged is another and one of which you are pitifully guilty. You have no idea what other people are doing or why or (I would wager) who is working within the rules and who isn't. I'm sure your information is based on hen cackling over the picket fence. Gossiping is another immoral, unethical sin so take a look in the mirror before you open your mouth. Minding your own business would do you a world of good.

As for the *one can ways tell* who's children are the *help* poster. You would be extraordinarily surprised to find out how little other people are fighting to get into *your* school. For most, school is an experience beyond education, including being around a community of pleasant people. Most would take a pass on raising their children around yours.

Most people know better than to send their kids to a W especially because they're well known to have many racial issues like kids running around in blackface or handing out N* word cards. The questionable benefits are greatly eclipsed by the nagatives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just personally think that it shows low moral character. There is a family that I generally like and I know that they do this and this definitely causes me to think less of them.

My child would be so upset about this she is honest as can be. I can imagine her walking into school on the first day and just blurting out I’m supposed to say that I live at 21 Main St. but I actually live at 34 Cherry St.!!!

No it shows you care about your kids education and it's not your fault you cant afford a $2M house in the zone you're trying to send your kid. Maybe if school districts made all the schools high quality instead of only the ones that serve the wealthier enclaves parents wouldn't be reduced to having the low moral character of trying to get high quality education for their children.

Yes, exactly, schools are "low quality" because school districts don't do enough, not because we tie school funding to property taxes and penalize schools for not being able to pass standardized tests that are really just a measure of SES as a means of keeping them hypersegregated and underfunded.

In Moco the funding is the same. The issue is concentrated poverty. Thee best way to alleviate concentrated poverty would be busing but rich parents basically bring out the pitchfoiand torches whenever that is suggested.

The magnets were created to bring strong programming to schools with minority populations so there would be enough students taking those classes to make them available to all. This works mostly by bringing the kids from wealthier areas to the less-wealthy schools because kids from less-affluent families have childcare and other obligations at home. Bussing would be more of a burden on them, so the burden is put on the students from more affluent areas.

Now, there's this big move to get rid of magnets. What do you think that will do to the schools with concentrated poverty? It will make it harder for able students at those schools to get access to advanced classes.

Yes, back in 1990 Blair was only like 90% white so they added a magnet to stem white flight. The world has changed much these past 30 years.

Blair was already minority majority which is why they needed to put the magnet there, eastern MoCo started seeing an influx of poorer minorities in the 70s. Being the cheapest parts close in, silver spring and TP were the first to change. Look at all the low income housing built on Thayer, maple, wyane, Sligo and flower. Those roads basically framed the old Blair and that is why they put the magnet program there.

You clearly didn’t live locally in the 90s if you think silver spring was 90% white, the downtown section had all but been abandoned until the discovery came in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pupil personnel worker may do a home visit if they can't verify residency.

I have never heard of this happening.

Agree. It never happens.

We know of several families that did this. One used an aunt’s address. Two used a grandparents. One used another relative.

It has NEVER been an issue. The families are open and honest that they live elsewhere.

In some cultures, your extended family is basically ‘your family’, so they feel that any address is valid. I say this as a non-White person and because all the families who did this (used a relative’s address) were also non-White.

They are lying to MCPS even if they don't lie to friends about where they live. I don't think dishonesty is limited to non-white families. I also know white families that have done this. This isn't about race. It's about honesty.

I always love these people like pp. Sitting high atop their little throne of judgement, staring down their crooked nose at others. Dishonesty is one thing. Judge not leet you be judged is another and one of which you are pitifully guilty. You have no idea what other people are doing or why or (I would wager) who is working within the rules and who isn't. I'm sure your information is based on hen cackling over the picket fence. Gossiping is another immoral, unethical sin so take a look in the mirror before you open your mouth. Minding your own business would do you a world of good.

As for the *one can ways tell* who's children are the *help* poster. You would be extraordinarily surprised to find out how little other people are fighting to get into *your* school. For most, school is an experience beyond education, including being around a community of pleasant people. Most would take a pass on raising their children around yours.

Most people know better than to send their kids to a W especially because they're well known to have many racial issues like kids running around in blackface or handing out N* word cards. The questionable benefits are greatly eclipsed by the nagatives.

Yah no one uses the N word in the poor schools And yes when the one ESOL kid in a class “lives” in a multi million dollar house that everyone knows who it really belongs to it is easy to see. Let’s not pretend that the help class of people can not be easily distinguished for the millionaire class. Even rich Latinos have little in common with poor ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pupil personnel worker may do a home visit if they can't verify residency.

I have never heard of this happening.

Agree. It never happens.

We know of several families that did this. One used an aunt’s address. Two used a grandparents. One used another relative.

It has NEVER been an issue. The families are open and honest that they live elsewhere.

In some cultures, your extended family is basically ‘your family’, so they feel that any address is valid. I say this as a non-White person and because all the families who did this (used a relative’s address) were also non-White.

They are lying to MCPS even if they don't lie to friends about where they live. I don't think dishonesty is limited to non-white families. I also know white families that have done this. This isn't about race. It's about honesty.

I always love these people like pp. Sitting high atop their little throne of judgement, staring down their crooked nose at others. Dishonesty is one thing. Judge not leet you be judged is another and one of which you are pitifully guilty. You have no idea what other people are doing or why or (I would wager) who is working within the rules and who isn't. I'm sure your information is based on hen cackling over the picket fence. Gossiping is another immoral, unethical sin so take a look in the mirror before you open your mouth. Minding your own business would do you a world of good.

As for the *one can ways tell* who's children are the *help* poster. You would be extraordinarily surprised to find out how little other people are fighting to get into *your* school. For most, school is an experience beyond education, including being around a community of pleasant people. Most would take a pass on raising their children around yours.

Most people know better than to send their kids to a W especially because they're well known to have many racial issues like kids running around in blackface or handing out N* word cards. The questionable benefits are greatly eclipsed by the nagatives.

Yah no one uses the N word in the poor schools And yes when the one ESOL kid in a class “lives” in a multi million dollar house that everyone knows who it really belongs to it is easy to see. Let’s not pretend that the help class of people can not be easily distinguished for the millionaire class. Even rich Latinos have little in common with poor ones.

Every hs district in Montgomery County includes low income housing, per design of the planning board. You don't know anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pupil personnel worker may do a home visit if they can't verify residency.

I have never heard of this happening.

Agree. It never happens.

We know of several families that did this. One used an aunt’s address. Two used a grandparents. One used another relative.

It has NEVER been an issue. The families are open and honest that they live elsewhere.

In some cultures, your extended family is basically ‘your family’, so they feel that any address is valid. I say this as a non-White person and because all the families who did this (used a relative’s address) were also non-White.

They are lying to MCPS even if they don't lie to friends about where they live. I don't think dishonesty is limited to non-white families. I also know white families that have done this. This isn't about race. It's about honesty.

I always love these people like pp. Sitting high atop their little throne of judgement, staring down their crooked nose at others. Dishonesty is one thing. Judge not leet you be judged is another and one of which you are pitifully guilty. You have no idea what other people are doing or why or (I would wager) who is working within the rules and who isn't. I'm sure your information is based on hen cackling over the picket fence. Gossiping is another immoral, unethical sin so take a look in the mirror before you open your mouth. Minding your own business would do you a world of good.

As for the *one can ways tell* who's children are the *help* poster. You would be extraordinarily surprised to find out how little other people are fighting to get into *your* school. For most, school is an experience beyond education, including being around a community of pleasant people. Most would take a pass on raising their children around yours.

Most people know better than to send their kids to a W especially because they're well known to have many racial issues like kids running around in blackface or handing out N* word cards. The questionable benefits are greatly eclipsed by the nagatives.

Yah no one uses the N word in the poor schools And yes when the one ESOL kid in a class “lives” in a multi million dollar house that everyone knows who it really belongs to it is easy to see. Let’s not pretend that the help class of people can not be easily distinguished for the millionaire class. Even rich Latinos have little in common with poor ones.

Imagine believing that children who aren't as wealthy as you don't belong at "your" PUBLIC school 😆
Your remarks are particularly inflammatory because they imply that lower income students are there as liars and cheaters. You're gross.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are the repercussions if MCPS finds out you've used a relative's address to get your child enrolled in a different MCPS school district? Does anyone have experience with this? And if so, what is the process that MCPS uses to discover and crack down on such situations?

You will be in trouble for doing this type of thing.

So very unlikely. I have 3 kids in MCPS and have been in the system for 10 years now. Each one of my kids has know families who live out of bounds and use ‘alternative addresses’. Not a single one has ever faced any consequences.

It’s even easier now than it was 5-7 years ago. Most communication is by email anyway. Not that much stuff comes in the mail. Report cards are online, etc.

I'd report them in a heartbeat.

You never grew up disadvantaged then.

Why punish a parent for trying to improve their kids' lives? Aren't we about equity now or is that only talk?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the repercussions if MCPS finds out you've used a relative's address to get your child enrolled in a different MCPS school district? Does anyone have experience with this? And if so, what is the process that MCPS uses to discover and crack down on such situations?

You will be in trouble for doing this type of thing.

So very unlikely. I have 3 kids in MCPS and have been in the system for 10 years now. Each one of my kids has know families who live out of bounds and use ‘alternative addresses’. Not a single one has ever faced any consequences.

It’s even easier now than it was 5-7 years ago. Most communication is by email anyway. Not that much stuff comes in the mail. Report cards are online, etc.

I'd report them in a heartbeat.

You never grew up disadvantaged then.

Why punish a parent for trying to improve their kids' lives? Aren't we about equity now or is that only talk?

Not at all. There's no difference in the content taught at these schools. That's just a misconception which real-estate agents forster in order to inflate housing prices. I also believe cheating and lying is wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I just personally think that it shows low moral character. There is a family that I generally like and I know that they do this and this definitely causes me to think less of them.

My child would be so upset about this she is honest as can be. I can imagine her walking into school on the first day and just blurting out I’m supposed to say that I live at 21 Main St. but I actually live at 34 Cherry St.!!!

No it shows you care about your kids education and it's not your fault you cant afford a $2M house in the zone you're trying to send your kid. Maybe if school districts made all the schools high quality instead of only the ones that serve the wealthier enclaves parents wouldn't be reduced to having the low moral character of trying to get high quality education for their children.

Yes, exactly, schools are "low quality" because school districts don't do enough, not because we tie school funding to property taxes and penalize schools for not being able to pass standardized tests that are really just a measure of SES as a means of keeping them hypersegregated and underfunded.

In Moco the funding is the same. The issue is concentrated poverty. Thee best way to alleviate concentrated poverty would be busing but rich parents basically bring out the pitchfoiand torches whenever that is suggested.

The magnets were created to bring strong programming to schools with minority populations so there would be enough students taking those classes to make them available to all. This works mostly by bringing the kids from wealthier areas to the less-wealthy schools because kids from less-affluent families have childcare and other obligations at home. Bussing would be more of a burden on them, so the burden is put on the students from more affluent areas.

Now, there's this big move to get rid of magnets. What do you think that will do to the schools with concentrated poverty? It will make it harder for able students at those schools to get access to advanced classes.

Yes, back in 1990 Blair was only like 90% white so they added a magnet to stem white flight. The world has changed much these past 30 years.

Blair was already minority majority which is why they needed to put the magnet there, eastern MoCo started seeing an influx of poorer minorities in the 70s. Being the cheapest parts close in, silver spring and TP were the first to change. Look at all the low income housing built on Thayer, maple, wyane, Sligo and flower. Those roads basically framed the old Blair and that is why they put the magnet program there.

You clearly didn’t live locally in the 90s if you think silver spring was 90% white, the downtown section had all but been abandoned until the discovery came in.

Yes 10% non-white was scandelous at the time. People were freaking out so they put the manget there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pupil personnel worker may do a home visit if they can't verify residency.

I have never heard of this happening.

Agree. It never happens.

We know of several families that did this. One used an aunt’s address. Two used a grandparents. One used another relative.

It has NEVER been an issue. The families are open and honest that they live elsewhere.

In some cultures, your extended family is basically ‘your family’, so they feel that any address is valid. I say this as a non-White person and because all the families who did this (used a relative’s address) were also non-White.

They are lying to MCPS even if they don't lie to friends about where they live. I don't think dishonesty is limited to non-white families. I also know white families that have done this. This isn't about race. It's about honesty.

I always love these people like pp. Sitting high atop their little throne of judgement, staring down their crooked nose at others. Dishonesty is one thing. Judge not leet you be judged is another and one of which you are pitifully guilty. You have no idea what other people are doing or why or (I would wager) who is working within the rules and who isn't. I'm sure your information is based on hen cackling over the picket fence. Gossiping is another immoral, unethical sin so take a look in the mirror before you open your mouth. Minding your own business would do you a world of good.

As for the *one can ways tell* who's children are the *help* poster. You would be extraordinarily surprised to find out how little other people are fighting to get into *your* school. For most, school is an experience beyond education, including being around a community of pleasant people. Most would take a pass on raising their children around yours.

Most people know better than to send their kids to a W especially because they're well known to have many racial issues like kids running around in blackface or handing out N* word cards. The questionable benefits are greatly eclipsed by the nagatives.

Yah no one uses the N word in the poor schools And yes when the one ESOL kid in a class “lives” in a multi million dollar house that everyone knows who it really belongs to it is easy to see. Let’s not pretend that the help class of people can not be easily distinguished for the millionaire class. Even rich Latinos have little in common with poor ones.

Imagine believing that children who aren't as wealthy as you don't belong at "your" PUBLIC school 😆
Your remarks are particularly inflammatory because they imply that lower income students are there as liars and cheaters. You're gross.

Why would anyone want to go to aW with all the well documented incidents of hate that are racially motivated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The pupil personnel worker may do a home visit if they can't verify residency.

I have never heard of this happening.

Not the PP, but it was done when there was a tip off for a sport's team in 2017 who had 3 players on the same travel/club team enter the same high school. I remember that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just personally think that it shows low moral character. There is a family that I generally like and I know that they do this and this definitely causes me to think less of them.

My child would be so upset about this she is honest as can be. I can imagine her walking into school on the first day and just blurting out I’m supposed to say that I live at 21 Main St. but I actually live at 34 Cherry St.!!!

No it shows you care about your kids education and it's not your fault you cant afford a $2M house in the zone you're trying to send your kid. Maybe if school districts made all the schools high quality instead of only the ones that serve the wealthier enclaves parents wouldn't be reduced to having the low moral character of trying to get high quality education for their children.

Yes, exactly, schools are "low quality" because school districts don't do enough, not because we tie school funding to property taxes and penalize schools for not being able to pass standardized tests that are really just a measure of SES as a means of keeping them hypersegregated and underfunded.

In Moco the funding is the same. The issue is concentrated poverty. Thee best way to alleviate concentrated poverty would be busing but rich parents basically bring out the pitchfoiand torches whenever that is suggested.

The magnets were created to bring strong programming to schools with minority populations so there would be enough students taking those classes to make them available to all. This works mostly by bringing the kids from wealthier areas to the less-wealthy schools because kids from less-affluent families have childcare and other obligations at home. Bussing would be more of a burden on them, so the burden is put on the students from more affluent areas.

Now, there's this big move to get rid of magnets. What do you think that will do to the schools with concentrated poverty? It will make it harder for able students at those schools to get access to advanced classes.

Yes, back in 1990 Blair was only like 90% white so they added a magnet to stem white flight. The world has changed much these past 30 years.

Blair was already minority majority which is why they needed to put the magnet there, eastern MoCo started seeing an influx of poorer minorities in the 70s. Being the cheapest parts close in, silver spring and TP were the first to change. Look at all the low income housing built on Thayer, maple, wyane, Sligo and flower. Those roads basically framed the old Blair and that is why they put the magnet program there.

You clearly didn’t live locally in the 90s if you think silver spring was 90% white, the downtown section had all but been abandoned until the discovery came in.

Yes 10% non-white was scandelous at the time. People were freaking out so they put the manget there.

I graduated from Blair in 95, it wasn’t even Half white counting the magnet and cap which were mostly white