When will quarantine / mandatory absence from school stop for Covid?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

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You left out the part about being symptomatic. The posts had been about asymptomatic individuals. I don’t think anyone was suggesting people that are actively showing symptoms that would otherwise dictate staying home should go out with covid. They’re saying people without symptoms should do whatever they want, regardless of whether they decide to test or not.

People who test positive, should not be able to do whatever they want if they're asymptomatic. Consider yourself lucky if youre asymptomatic, but stay away from others to protect them.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

Thats really crummy to go to work and school when you know here is a god chance you'll test positive soon an infect school and work.

I see someone doesn’t understand the concept of risk mitigation. Only risk avoidance.

Good luck. You’re clearly going to have a hard time as everyone else goes back to normal.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on what you mean. The isolation policies will probably technically remain for quite a while, but people will stop testing. If you don’t know it’s Covid, then you can follow the regular rules for illnesses.

Pretty sure a lot of people have stopped testing for minor illness.

OP here - I agree with you and it’s part of what prompted my question. My son is part of the testing pool at school but we also test our son and ourselves when we have cold-like symptoms. I don’t want to spread Covid. But when I shared this with a couple of parents from my son’s school they said not only are they not part of the testing pool but that they long since stopped testing at home for what one parent called “sniffles”. When I asked if they were concerned about Covid they both said that unless the symptoms were severe, in which case they’d keep their kids home, their kids went to school. On one hand that’s frustrating because that’s how Covid spreads but at the same time, my son had what was essentially “the sniffles” and missed a whole week of school.

NP - that’s the rub, OP. The policies around isolation are, IMO, too restrictive based on the severity of illness we see in the overwhelming majority of kids. And now that vaccines and therapeutics are available for adults, it’s hard to argue for restrictions this substantial. We pulled our kids from the PCR testing pool at school for just this reason: I don’t want my asymptomatic kids out of school for a week. I’m done. We’ve gone along for two years with MCPS’ endless restrictions. Our kids have had COVID before (caught with a home test) and we’re all vaccinated, we believe in masks, etc.

And, at the same time, MCPS frankly needs to change its priorities. I don’t think mandatory absence/enforced isolation will change until enough parents start to opt out of random testing. At this point, they’re encouraging parents not to test for “the sniffles.”

Even though most kids do fine with Covid, we’re still learning about the long term effects, for example, an increased risk for diabetes. Plus, even ‘normal’ healthy kids may have unvaccinated siblings and immunocompromised family members, who, despite vaccinations, are still at risk for more complications. Not to mention, by not ‘caring’ about quarantine periods, you’re basically just dragging all the other families in your kid’s class into your quarantine + isolation period, forcing them to have to rearrange schedules, cancel plans and putting them at risk. Super considerate! Why not just take care of your kids and community and be cool about it?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

Thats really crummy to go to work and school when you know here is a god chance you'll test positive soon an infect school and work.

I 100% agree with this statement. However, many posters on this thread think it is perfectly o.k. to send their positive, asymptomatic chidlren to school because they "feel fine."

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

Thats really crummy to go to work and school when you know here is a god chance you'll test positive soon an infect school and work.

You know this is the norm, right? I’ve had two close coworkers come to work when their kids had covid. They were considerate and wore masks. Didn’t bother me at all. There’s no support anymore for people staying home, so I wouldn’t ask them to take leave if they aren’t sick.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

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You left out the part about being symptomatic. The posts had been about asymptomatic individuals. I don’t think anyone was suggesting people that are actively showing symptoms that would otherwise dictate staying home should go out with covid. They’re saying people without symptoms should do whatever they want, regardless of whether they decide to test or not.

People who test positive, should not be able to do whatever they want if they're asymptomatic. Consider yourself lucky if youre asymptomatic, but stay away from others to protect them.

If you really believe that, then you’re just saying people shouldn’t test are all if they’re not going to isolate for 5-10 days. I fail to see how that’s any better, even in your mind.

Admittedly, testing is a waste of resources, so maybe we should be heavily discouraging it as you propose.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

Thats really crummy to go to work and school when you know here is a god chance you'll test positive soon an infect school and work.

You know this is the norm, right? I’ve had two close coworkers come to work when their kids had covid. They were considerate and wore masks. Didn’t bother me at all. There’s no support anymore for people staying home, so I wouldn’t ask them to take leave if they aren’t sick.

Exactly, it’s normal to go to work and school if you feel fine. Covid isn’t the only virus that can cause asymptomatic illness. We’ve always just accepted that as a risk.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

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You left out the part about being symptomatic. The posts had been about asymptomatic individuals. I don’t think anyone was suggesting people that are actively showing symptoms that would otherwise dictate staying home should go out with covid. They’re saying people without symptoms should do whatever they want, regardless of whether they decide to test or not.

People who test positive, should not be able to do whatever they want if they're asymptomatic. Consider yourself lucky if youre asymptomatic, but stay away from others to protect them.

If you really believe that, then you’re just saying people shouldn’t test are all if they’re not going to isolate for 5-10 days. I fail to see how that’s any better, even in your mind.

Admittedly, testing is a waste of resources, so maybe we should be heavily discouraging it as you propose.

Where did I say testing is a waste of resources? Bottom line...If someone tests positive (for whatever reason under the sun that they may have tested), they should follow the recommended guidelines and isolate for five days if asymptomatic. If you test positive, you CAN spread the illness to others. You have a responsibility to mitigate the spread by isolating whether you are asymptomatic or not.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

m

You left out the part about being symptomatic. The posts had been about asymptomatic individuals. I don’t think anyone was suggesting people that are actively showing symptoms that would otherwise dictate staying home should go out with covid. They’re saying people without symptoms should do whatever they want, regardless of whether they decide to test or not.

People who test positive, should not be able to do whatever they want if they're asymptomatic. Consider yourself lucky if youre asymptomatic, but stay away from others to protect them.

If you really believe that, then you’re just saying people shouldn’t test are all if they’re not going to isolate for 5-10 days. I fail to see how that’s any better, even in your mind.

Admittedly, testing is a waste of resources, so maybe we should be heavily discouraging it as you propose.

Where did I say testing is a waste of resources? Bottom line...If someone tests positive (for whatever reason under the sun that they may have tested), they should follow the recommended guidelines and isolate for five days if asymptomatic. If you test positive, you CAN spread the illness to others. You have a responsibility to mitigate the spread by isolating whether you are asymptomatic or not.

This is an excellent reason to not test. Unless you’re sick enough or immune compromised and needed anti-virals, I don’t know why anyone would bother testing.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

+100

That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

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You left out the part about being symptomatic. The posts had been about asymptomatic individuals. I don’t think anyone was suggesting people that are actively showing symptoms that would otherwise dictate staying home should go out with covid. They’re saying people without symptoms should do whatever they want, regardless of whether they decide to test or not.

People who test positive, should not be able to do whatever they want if they're asymptomatic. Consider yourself lucky if youre asymptomatic, but stay away from others to protect them.

If you really believe that, then you’re just saying people shouldn’t test are all if they’re not going to isolate for 5-10 days. I fail to see how that’s any better, even in your mind.

Admittedly, testing is a waste of resources, so maybe we should be heavily discouraging it as you propose.

Where did I say testing is a waste of resources? Bottom line...If someone tests positive (for whatever reason under the sun that they may have tested), they should follow the recommended guidelines and isolate for five days if asymptomatic. If you test positive, you CAN spread the illness to others. You have a responsibility to mitigate the spread by isolating whether you are asymptomatic or not.

Right, so you’re saying we should heavily discourage asymptomatic people from ever testing for covid. You might be to something there. How much money do you think we’re collectively wasting on unnecessary testing of asymptomatic individuals?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

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You left out the part about being symptomatic. The posts had been about asymptomatic individuals. I don’t think anyone was suggesting people that are actively showing symptoms that would otherwise dictate staying home should go out with covid. They’re saying people without symptoms should do whatever they want, regardless of whether they decide to test or not.

People who test positive, should not be able to do whatever they want if they're asymptomatic. Consider yourself lucky if youre asymptomatic, but stay away from others to protect them.

If you really believe that, then you’re just saying people shouldn’t test are all if they’re not going to isolate for 5-10 days. I fail to see how that’s any better, even in your mind.

Admittedly, testing is a waste of resources, so maybe we should be heavily discouraging it as you propose.

Where did I say testing is a waste of resources? Bottom line...If someone tests positive (for whatever reason under the sun that they may have tested), they should follow the recommended guidelines and isolate for five days if asymptomatic. If you test positive, you CAN spread the illness to others. You have a responsibility to mitigate the spread by isolating whether you are asymptomatic or not.

This is an excellent reason to not test. Unless you’re sick enough or immune compromised and needed anti-virals, I don’t know why anyone would bother testing.

You don't know why ANYONE would bother testing? Really? I have a colleague whose child tested positive. My colleague doesn't wear a mask and is open mouth coughing all over work. Should she "bother" to test herself in your opinion? It's about being considerate of OTHERS which many of you seem to not care about at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

m

You left out the part about being symptomatic. The posts had been about asymptomatic individuals. I don’t think anyone was suggesting people that are actively showing symptoms that would otherwise dictate staying home should go out with covid. They’re saying people without symptoms should do whatever they want, regardless of whether they decide to test or not.

People who test positive, should not be able to do whatever they want if they're asymptomatic. Consider yourself lucky if youre asymptomatic, but stay away from others to protect them.

If you really believe that, then you’re just saying people shouldn’t test are all if they’re not going to isolate for 5-10 days. I fail to see how that’s any better, even in your mind.

Admittedly, testing is a waste of resources, so maybe we should be heavily discouraging it as you propose.

Where did I say testing is a waste of resources? Bottom line...If someone tests positive (for whatever reason under the sun that they may have tested), they should follow the recommended guidelines and isolate for five days if asymptomatic. If you test positive, you CAN spread the illness to others. You have a responsibility to mitigate the spread by isolating whether you are asymptomatic or not.

This is an excellent reason to not test. Unless you’re sick enough or immune compromised and needed anti-virals, I don’t know why anyone would bother testing.

Right. My spouse is on immunosuppressants, so they were testing daily after our kids got covid so they could get monoclonal antibodies right away (doctors wouldn’t order them until either symptomatic or a positive test). I had no reason to test.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

m

You left out the part about being symptomatic. The posts had been about asymptomatic individuals. I don’t think anyone was suggesting people that are actively showing symptoms that would otherwise dictate staying home should go out with covid. They’re saying people without symptoms should do whatever they want, regardless of whether they decide to test or not.

People who test positive, should not be able to do whatever they want if they're asymptomatic. Consider yourself lucky if youre asymptomatic, but stay away from others to protect them.

If you really believe that, then you’re just saying people shouldn’t test are all if they’re not going to isolate for 5-10 days. I fail to see how that’s any better, even in your mind.

Admittedly, testing is a waste of resources, so maybe we should be heavily discouraging it as you propose.

Where did I say testing is a waste of resources? Bottom line...If someone tests positive (for whatever reason under the sun that they may have tested), they should follow the recommended guidelines and isolate for five days if asymptomatic. If you test positive, you CAN spread the illness to others. You have a responsibility to mitigate the spread by isolating whether you are asymptomatic or not.

This is an excellent reason to not test. Unless you’re sick enough or immune compromised and needed anti-virals, I don’t know why anyone would bother testing.

You don't know why ANYONE would bother testing? Really? I have a colleague whose child tested positive. My colleague doesn't wear a mask and is open mouth coughing all over work. Should she "bother" to test herself in your opinion? It's about being considerate of OTHERS which many of you seem to not care about at all.

You’re the one suggesting we heavily discourage testing. I think everyone else started from the position that people should test if they want to. But you make a really compelling argument that perhaps we should discourage testing.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

Thats really crummy to go to work and school when you know here is a god chance you'll test positive soon an infect school and work.

You know this is the norm, right? I’ve had two close coworkers come to work when their kids had covid. They were considerate and wore masks. Didn’t bother me at all. There’s no support anymore for people staying home, so I wouldn’t ask them to take leave if they aren’t sick.

Exactly, it’s normal to go to work and school if you feel fine. Covid isn’t the only virus that can cause asymptomatic illness. We’ve always just accepted that as a risk.

Are you intentionally dumb? The PP was saying people who test positive should quarantine regardless. This is for the good of your community. It isn't a concept to grasp. Stop trying to argue semantics to confuse weak minded people.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.

As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.

Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.

Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.

Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?

No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.

Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?

She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.

Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.

I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.

Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!

Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?

DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.

+100

That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?

And I said I was fine with that. What wasn’t clear about that? If I don’t care if someone doesn’t test and comes into work, why would I care if they do test and come into work? Potentially being exposed to an asymptomatic person with covid is just like potentially being exposed to someone with asymptomatic cold/flu. It’s a risk I accepted without a second thought long ago.

So if I’m your coworker and I test positive and let you know I’m Covid positive, you are comfortable working with me all day in a small room? I would want my coworker to stay home for the recommended five days. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this point.

Here's the problem with your scenario. People should not be testing if there are no symptoms. See? Problem solved.

I’m not talking about randomly testing throughout the week. If one of my kids tests positive, then my husband and I would also test ourselves. Wouldn’t you do the same? If one of us tests positive, we would adhere to the recommended five day isolation and stay at home and not go into work. We would stay home IF we test positive. See?

You’re not vaccinated? The guidelines say you don't need to test. Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get infected, but it demonstrates that from a public health perspective there's an acceptance that people will get covid and need to carry on with their lives.

Where did I say I was not vaccinated? Of course I'm vaccinated. The above situation actually did happen with our family. One of our children tested positive (highly symptomatic) on a Sunday. At the time, Covid was running rampant within her school. The rest of us continued to go to school and work until we tested positive. I tested positive on Wednesday. I was also highly symptomatic and very sick. After testing postive, I stayed home from work for the recommened period of time. We all ended up testing positive within 10 days of child#1. One of our children was essentially asymptomatic, but we kept her home from school...because that's what is required and it makes sense. According to many of the posters, we should have just sent her to school because she was asymptomatic.

Thats really crummy to go to work and school when you know here is a god chance you'll test positive soon an infect school and work.

You know this is the norm, right? I’ve had two close coworkers come to work when their kids had covid. They were considerate and wore masks. Didn’t bother me at all. There’s no support anymore for people staying home, so I wouldn’t ask them to take leave if they aren’t sick.

Exactly, it’s normal to go to work and school if you feel fine. Covid isn’t the only virus that can cause asymptomatic illness. We’ve always just accepted that as a risk.

Are you intentionally dumb? The PP was saying people who test positive should quarantine regardless. This is for the good of your community. It isn't a concept to grasp. Stop trying to argue semantics to confuse weak minded people.

You don’t seem to get that most people here are saying they’re fine treating covid just like we’ve treated other viruses. You’re the odd one out here.