Council delays Foxhall, MacArthur schools

[Anonymous]

I had to leave right before the Q&A. I am sure the meeting will be posted somewhere soon. I will post a link if I see it somewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, i think the High School will open and the foxhall ES will be cancelled.

I don't understand why the city doesn't just double Stoddert? The neighborhood want that (then they could offer PK3). There is enough room on the site to so and there will be minimal traffic impact since nearly everyone walks. I think they should ban driving drop-offs for all non-disabled students.

If Stoddert was expanded to offer PK3, could we make sure that they include enough room to enroll the GP parents who are crying to all-and-sundry about some nightmare they had but which doesn't exist and clamoring that they absolutely positively deserve a walkable community school (which they already have and which no one is threatening to take away from them) while maintaining that it is absolutely fine for families in Foxhall to not have a walkable community school? I don't want to get my hopes up, but it would be fantastic if Stoddert could build into the PK3 curriculum lessons about how stealing from your neighbors to pad your own nest is not the way that children in the higher grades of elementary school - let alone adults - are expected to behave.

The only 'plan' DCPS has proposed has 144 stoddert students moving to foxhall. With travel changing from a 2 minute walk to a 2 mile drive. Until DCPS gives us an alternative, we aren't going to rely on a 'trust us' from DCPS...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, i think the High School will open and the foxhall ES will be cancelled.

I don't understand why the city doesn't just double Stoddert? The neighborhood want that (then they could offer PK3). There is enough room on the site to so and there will be minimal traffic impact since nearly everyone walks. I think they should ban driving drop-offs for all non-disabled students.

If Stoddert was expanded to offer PK3, could we make sure that they include enough room to enroll the GP parents who are crying to all-and-sundry about some nightmare they had but which doesn't exist and clamoring that they absolutely positively deserve a walkable community school (which they already have and which no one is threatening to take away from them) while maintaining that it is absolutely fine for families in Foxhall to not have a walkable community school? I don't want to get my hopes up, but it would be fantastic if Stoddert could build into the PK3 curriculum lessons about how stealing from your neighbors to pad your own nest is not the way that children in the higher grades of elementary school - let alone adults - are expected to behave.

The only 'plan' DCPS has proposed has 144 stoddert students moving to foxhall. With travel changing from a 2 minute walk to a 2 mile drive. Until DCPS gives us an alternative, we aren't going to rely on a 'trust us' from DCPS...

You do know that every single family in the proposed Foxhall zone drives to school right now, don't you? And most of Key...and Mann...You are not special. Foxhall deserves a walkable ES just like GP. Key, Mann and Stoddert students deserve a pressure release valve for overcrowding. Something's gotta give, and it might just be a couple of your border streets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, i think the High School will open and the foxhall ES will be cancelled.

I don't understand why the city doesn't just double Stoddert? The neighborhood want that (then they could offer PK3). There is enough room on the site to so and there will be minimal traffic impact since nearly everyone walks. I think they should ban driving drop-offs for all non-disabled students.

If Stoddert was expanded to offer PK3, could we make sure that they include enough room to enroll the GP parents who are crying to all-and-sundry about some nightmare they had but which doesn't exist and clamoring that they absolutely positively deserve a walkable community school (which they already have and which no one is threatening to take away from them) while maintaining that it is absolutely fine for families in Foxhall to not have a walkable community school? I don't want to get my hopes up, but it would be fantastic if Stoddert could build into the PK3 curriculum lessons about how stealing from your neighbors to pad your own nest is not the way that children in the higher grades of elementary school - let alone adults - are expected to behave.

The only 'plan' DCPS has proposed has 144 stoddert students moving to foxhall. With travel changing from a 2 minute walk to a 2 mile drive. Until DCPS gives us an alternative, we aren't going to rely on a 'trust us' from DCPS...

You do know that every single family in the proposed Foxhall zone drives to school right now, don't you? And most of Key...and Mann...You are not special. Foxhall deserves a walkable ES just like GP. Key, Mann and Stoddert students deserve a pressure release valve for overcrowding. Something's gotta give, and it might just be a couple of your border streets.

According to the only proposal from DCPS, 155 students will see an decrease in distance and 222 will see and increase in distance. So on average, fewer students will be able to walk to school. This is due to how suburban Key/Foxhall are and how dense Glover Park is.

Show me a plan where that isn't true.

[Anonymous]

Foxhall Village is not so suburban.. not like the palisades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, i think the High School will open and the foxhall ES will be cancelled.

I don't understand why the city doesn't just double Stoddert? The neighborhood want that (then they could offer PK3). There is enough room on the site to so and there will be minimal traffic impact since nearly everyone walks. I think they should ban driving drop-offs for all non-disabled students.

If Stoddert was expanded to offer PK3, could we make sure that they include enough room to enroll the GP parents who are crying to all-and-sundry about some nightmare they had but which doesn't exist and clamoring that they absolutely positively deserve a walkable community school (which they already have and which no one is threatening to take away from them) while maintaining that it is absolutely fine for families in Foxhall to not have a walkable community school? I don't want to get my hopes up, but it would be fantastic if Stoddert could build into the PK3 curriculum lessons about how stealing from your neighbors to pad your own nest is not the way that children in the higher grades of elementary school - let alone adults - are expected to behave.

The only 'plan' DCPS has proposed has 144 stoddert students moving to foxhall. With travel changing from a 2 minute walk to a 2 mile drive. Until DCPS gives us an alternative, we aren't going to rely on a 'trust us' from DCPS...

You do know that every single family in the proposed Foxhall zone drives to school right now, don't you? And most of Key...and Mann...You are not special. Foxhall deserves a walkable ES just like GP. Key, Mann and Stoddert students deserve a pressure release valve for overcrowding. Something's gotta give, and it might just be a couple of your border streets.

According to the only proposal from DCPS, 155 students will see an decrease in distance and 222 will see and increase in distance. So on average, fewer students will be able to walk to school. This is due to how suburban Key/Foxhall are and how dense Glover Park is.

Show me a plan where that isn't true.

All 155+222 students would have less overcrowded school with not trailers though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, i think the High School will open and the foxhall ES will be cancelled.

I don't understand why the city doesn't just double Stoddert? The neighborhood want that (then they could offer PK3). There is enough room on the site to so and there will be minimal traffic impact since nearly everyone walks. I think they should ban driving drop-offs for all non-disabled students.

If Stoddert was expanded to offer PK3, could we make sure that they include enough room to enroll the GP parents who are crying to all-and-sundry about some nightmare they had but which doesn't exist and clamoring that they absolutely positively deserve a walkable community school (which they already have and which no one is threatening to take away from them) while maintaining that it is absolutely fine for families in Foxhall to not have a walkable community school? I don't want to get my hopes up, but it would be fantastic if Stoddert could build into the PK3 curriculum lessons about how stealing from your neighbors to pad your own nest is not the way that children in the higher grades of elementary school - let alone adults - are expected to behave.

The only 'plan' DCPS has proposed has 144 stoddert students moving to foxhall. With travel changing from a 2 minute walk to a 2 mile drive. Until DCPS gives us an alternative, we aren't going to rely on a 'trust us' from DCPS...

You do know that every single family in the proposed Foxhall zone drives to school right now, don't you? And most of Key...and Mann...You are not special. Foxhall deserves a walkable ES just like GP. Key, Mann and Stoddert students deserve a pressure release valve for overcrowding. Something's gotta give, and it might just be a couple of your border streets.

According to the only proposal from DCPS, 155 students will see an decrease in distance and 222 will see and increase in distance. So on average, fewer students will be able to walk to school. This is due to how suburban Key/Foxhall are and how dense Glover Park is.

Show me a plan where that isn't true.

No plan has been proposed. Full stop. Stop spreading lies. Coward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, i think the High School will open and the foxhall ES will be cancelled.

I don't understand why the city doesn't just double Stoddert? The neighborhood want that (then they could offer PK3). There is enough room on the site to so and there will be minimal traffic impact since nearly everyone walks. I think they should ban driving drop-offs for all non-disabled students.

If Stoddert was expanded to offer PK3, could we make sure that they include enough room to enroll the GP parents who are crying to all-and-sundry about some nightmare they had but which doesn't exist and clamoring that they absolutely positively deserve a walkable community school (which they already have and which no one is threatening to take away from them) while maintaining that it is absolutely fine for families in Foxhall to not have a walkable community school? I don't want to get my hopes up, but it would be fantastic if Stoddert could build into the PK3 curriculum lessons about how stealing from your neighbors to pad your own nest is not the way that children in the higher grades of elementary school - let alone adults - are expected to behave.

The only 'plan' DCPS has proposed has 144 stoddert students moving to foxhall. With travel changing from a 2 minute walk to a 2 mile drive. Until DCPS gives us an alternative, we aren't going to rely on a 'trust us' from DCPS...

You do know that every single family in the proposed Foxhall zone drives to school right now, don't you? And most of Key...and Mann...You are not special. Foxhall deserves a walkable ES just like GP. Key, Mann and Stoddert students deserve a pressure release valve for overcrowding. Something's gotta give, and it might just be a couple of your border streets.

According to the only proposal from DCPS, 155 students will see an decrease in distance and 222 will see and increase in distance. So on average, fewer students will be able to walk to school. This is due to how suburban Key/Foxhall are and how dense Glover Park is.

Show me a plan where that isn't true.

No plan has been proposed. Full stop. Stop spreading lies. Coward.

So we are going to build a school without any plan and just trust DCPS to 'work it out'.

Seems a bit naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So this Robert Goulet (couldn't resist) is a Council candidate - is the Ward 3 election all about education with all the school crowding/fixes being proposed over there?

So many of us have been saying all along that GDS was a terrible site for a high school and would never work. It was a dumb purchase. Now DCPS is finally realizing that it will not work for a high school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this Robert Goulet (couldn't resist) is a Council candidate - is the Ward 3 election all about education with all the school crowding/fixes being proposed over there?

So many of us have been saying all along that GDS was a terrible site for a high school and would never work. It was a dumb purchase. Now DCPS is finally realizing that it will not work for a high school

What gives you that impression? Wishful thinking or FCCA talking points?

[Anonymous]

On the call, they are full steam ahead.

That the delay was funding for the longer term that was put off a year. They blew us off to things like they’ll have to wait to have a full theater built.

But they seem all in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this Robert Goulet (couldn't resist) is a Council candidate - is the Ward 3 election all about education with all the school crowding/fixes being proposed over there?

So many of us have been saying all along that GDS was a terrible site for a high school and would never work. It was a dumb purchase. Now DCPS is finally realizing that it will not work for a high school

What gives you that impression? Wishful thinking or FCCA talking points?

I don’t live near the school. But I know the site well because one of my kids went to GDS.
It is small and dumpy. I work as a high school teacher. There is no way the GDS lower school can house a well-designed high school. High schools are complex and need a ton of space to function well. DCPS jumped and bought the building without any advance planning. Why do you think no one else was interested in buying the building? There were no other buyers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this Robert Goulet (couldn't resist) is a Council candidate - is the Ward 3 election all about education with all the school crowding/fixes being proposed over there?

So many of us have been saying all along that GDS was a terrible site for a high school and would never work. It was a dumb purchase. Now DCPS is finally realizing that it will not work for a high school

Based on the meetings I've been on for the HS, i certainly never got the impression that DCPS is "finally realizing that it will not work for a high school". As a matter of fact, I've left all of these parental/community outreach meetings with the sense that they DO NOT have any concrete plans and will fly by night this new school, inaugural cohort students be damned, and eventually it'll be a perfectly fine high school for the kids in Gtown and the Palisades in about a 5-8 years after the classes and programs get filled and flushed out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this Robert Goulet (couldn't resist) is a Council candidate - is the Ward 3 election all about education with all the school crowding/fixes being proposed over there?

So many of us have been saying all along that GDS was a terrible site for a high school and would never work. It was a dumb purchase. Now DCPS is finally realizing that it will not work for a high school

What gives you that impression? Wishful thinking or FCCA talking points?

I don’t live near the school. But I know the site well because one of my kids went to GDS.
It is small and dumpy. I work as a high school teacher. There is no way the GDS lower school can house a well-designed high school. High schools are complex and need a ton of space to function well. DCPS jumped and bought the building without any advance planning. Why do you think no one else was interested in buying the building? There were no other buyers?

GDS sold it another buyer, who offloaded it to DCPS because pandemic. It’s not a perfect site but perfect sites for a high school in the J-R feeder pattern don’t come on the market too frequently if ever. It will need renovations to make it workable and that’s why $$$ are budgeted for such. Everyone is frustrated at the lack of forthcoming info from DCPS, except for a couple of W3 CM candidates who get to make political hay over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, i think the High School will open and the foxhall ES will be cancelled.

I don't understand why the city doesn't just double Stoddert? The neighborhood want that (then they could offer PK3). There is enough room on the site to so and there will be minimal traffic impact since nearly everyone walks. I think they should ban driving drop-offs for all non-disabled students.

If Stoddert was expanded to offer PK3, could we make sure that they include enough room to enroll the GP parents who are crying to all-and-sundry about some nightmare they had but which doesn't exist and clamoring that they absolutely positively deserve a walkable community school (which they already have and which no one is threatening to take away from them) while maintaining that it is absolutely fine for families in Foxhall to not have a walkable community school? I don't want to get my hopes up, but it would be fantastic if Stoddert could build into the PK3 curriculum lessons about how stealing from your neighbors to pad your own nest is not the way that children in the higher grades of elementary school - let alone adults - are expected to behave.

The only 'plan' DCPS has proposed has 144 stoddert students moving to foxhall. With travel changing from a 2 minute walk to a 2 mile drive. Until DCPS gives us an alternative, we aren't going to rely on a 'trust us' from DCPS...

Can you give an address of a home that is a 2 min walk that will be impacted with the re-zone? 2 min walk is literally across the street on Calvert & 40th, are you really saying that those homes are being re-zoned?