Yes and no - our base is one of these schools and this is a large part of why we opted to go to the AAP center instead of staying at the base. Our base could not even say which math SOL would be offered to those students in 6th grade. That then means different options in middle school so there will be peer discrepancies, just perhaps not amongst the students who stay at the base school and have reduced opportunities. |
Oh you are definitely correct. The discrepencies would be between Level IV MS and the E3 MS. But they wont be in the kids faces. Ultimately if that happens, that probably just means its a matter of time before they equalize the MS AAP plan to include clustered LLIV in the e3 schools or remove AAP in the others. I may sell may sell my home depending on what shakes out of the next few months. |
I guess it depends what you mean by in each others faces. As I live in one of these neighborhoods, it means the kids know who stayed and who left. They will know who does what in MS. They will all be together in HS. These are kids in sports or scouts or swim team together. They are not unaware. I dislike watching neighborhood kids all around kinda being experimented on. |
When I tried to find out that information last year, I was not successful. |
I agree and dont like the lack of transparency or defined plan. Im just trying to frame the issue in a way that is understandable from the perspective of FCPS and not be inflammatory about the changes. Right now we dont know anything except there are changes afoot and equity is still a large focus of FCPS. |
I would also be concerned if I had a child that doesn’t do as well with math concepts learning E3. It sounds like the goal is to get more kids ready for Math 7 honors in middle school and Algebra in 8th. If that’s the case, are they leaving kids who would have been on grade level in the old system behind?
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Fair enough, and I think part of my view is calling it equity is even pretty debatable when it is only being piloted at some schools and it doesn’t seem they were chosen at random but targeted. |
It's a pilot for now. But the purpose of a pilot is to have a dry run before launching an initiative. Is this a pilot for eliminating third and fourth grade math acceleration generally? If so, you could understand why they have not been forthcoming on details. |
They'll still have grade level kids take Algebra 1 in 9th grade. They appear to be more focused on the demographic shares of 8th grade Algebra 1 rather than increasing the overall share of accelerated kids in middle school. |
Well, rolling out massive changes geared toward restructuring elementary and middle school math wouldnt happen overnight. Thats why we are in this pilot. Ultimately they would balance AAP and non-AAP ES and MS to be the same eventually, if this were to go forward. The equity would be in everyone being on the same track. I mean I would hope they would make these changes county wide. Who knows. If they didnt, that would be the height of inequity lol! |
Why do you say this? |
Just a guess. If you replaced traditional advanced math paths in ES (and went with the speculated e3/8th grade Algebra 1 model) for multiple middle schools and then left the AAP Level IV/7th grade Algebra intact, that would create some serious academic imbalances across the county. I have to think if FCPS is interested in equity they wouldnt create two separate and unlevel tracks. |
It is speculation until parents see it in action. In Loudoun, this meant no 6th grade algebra, and a much smaller cohort in prealgebra, than the previous Math 6/7. |
Quoting myself here just to emphasize it isn’t that it is the number of schools, of course a pilot is small, but that it is piloted at specific schools and the results will be extrapolated to all but the targeted of pilot schools skews the results. |
![]() Im not that cynical, but I probably should be. |