APS parent and doctor on masks

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s just bureaucracy. It’s slow to roll, and no one was down with it in the middle of that surge last month. I’m fine with them off now, except for in schools with preschools.

Come back in a few weeks, OP.

I don't think people realize how high cases still are. We're still on par with the surge from last winter.

Except we’re all vaccinated, it’s a milder virus, and we have access to high quality masks. It’s not the same and it’s time end the mandate.

Deaths just went up in VA. But I'm sure those were "milder" deaths.

Deaths went up in VA due to the high number of unvaccinated people in the southern areas of the state. The vast, vast majority of deaths could have been prevented by people getting vaccinated. Plain and simple. This is not a masking issue. Yes, yes, I know that people in southern VA are not masking as well. But studies have shown that most of the masks that people are wearing (non-N95-type masks) do not work well against the virus. The key is vaccination.

It is time to let vaccinated students/staff opt out of masks.

It’s both vaccines and masks that should be current strategy at keeping Covid at bay.

Went on vacation over the holidays to SW VA with in-laws who live in Southern states. My family masked when out shopping. Theirs did not, as it seems to be a “cultural” thing. We didn’t get Covid. Both other families did, but were lucky not to get seriously ill thanks to vaccines (however, one BIL was very, very sick and missed weeks of work, and all kids had to miss more than 10 days of school while mine missed none). My kids and I wear KN95 masks that are readily available on Amazon. You non-mask zealots are just stubborn douche canoes.

So this seems to prove the point that we should not have a mask mandate. You were protected by your KN95 masks despite all the unmasked people and their Covid germs making your "stubborn douche canoes" in-laws very sick. Why would this not be the same in our schools? The majority of people in this area would probably choose to mask and be protected. And other people (who perhaps believe that the downsides to their kids wearing masks outweigh the benefits) could opt out.

+1 Vaccinated staff/students should be able to opt-out of the mask mandates.

It's coming. Numbers are coming down. CDC will probably change guidelines in the next month or two.

Do we really think the school board is going to make masks option even when the CDC changes guidelines? i think not.

I do think they will change mask policy as CDC changes guidelines.

If they don't, that is a legit time to speak up. Not shrieking about masks being child abuse during the middle of a surge.

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It's coming. Numbers are coming down. CDC will probably change guidelines in the next month or two.

Do we really think the school board is going to make masks option even when the CDC changes guidelines? i think not.

I do think they will change mask policy as CDC changes guidelines.

If they don't, that is a legit time to speak up. Not shrieking about masks being child abuse during the middle of a surge.

+1. It's coming, we're not quite there. Get the positivity rate down and then make them optional. We had just started indoor playdates again this fall with kids getting vaccinated when Omicron hit and now we've masked back up. Tone deaf to shriek no masks when cases are still at some of the highest levels of the pandemic. Give it another month. I can totally see them being optional by spring break if numbers continue to fall, coupled with the little kids getting vaccinated.

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It's coming. Numbers are coming down. CDC will probably change guidelines in the next month or two.

Do we really think the school board is going to make masks option even when the CDC changes guidelines? i think not.

I do think they will change mask policy as CDC changes guidelines.

If they don't, that is a legit time to speak up. Not shrieking about masks being child abuse during the middle of a surge.

+1. It's coming, we're not quite there. Get the positivity rate down and then make them optional. We had just started indoor playdates again this fall with kids getting vaccinated when Omicron hit and now we've masked back up. Tone deaf to shriek no masks when cases are still at some of the highest levels of the pandemic. Give it another month. I can totally see them being optional by spring break if numbers continue to fall, coupled with the little kids getting vaccinated.

So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

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It's coming. Numbers are coming down. CDC will probably change guidelines in the next month or two.

Do we really think the school board is going to make masks option even when the CDC changes guidelines? i think not.

I do think they will change mask policy as CDC changes guidelines.

If they don't, that is a legit time to speak up. Not shrieking about masks being child abuse during the middle of a surge.

+1. It's coming, we're not quite there. Get the positivity rate down and then make them optional. We had just started indoor playdates again this fall with kids getting vaccinated when Omicron hit and now we've masked back up. Tone deaf to shriek no masks when cases are still at some of the highest levels of the pandemic. Give it another month. I can totally see them being optional by spring break if numbers continue to fall, coupled with the little kids getting vaccinated.

So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

No guarantees either way. We don't know what will happen 10 months from now.

Sorry that you struggle with uncertainty - must be tough.

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^^^^ Mmm-hmm. And when people say "of course we won't be masking our kids forever, don't be ridiculous," the above statement is what seems to come up over and over again. Way to swing VA red, you crazy "mask-forever" folks.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^^ Mmm-hmm. And when people say "of course we won't be masking our kids forever, don't be ridiculous," the above statement is what seems to come up over and over again. Way to swing VA red, you crazy "mask-forever" folks.

I'm sorry you are struggling with anxiety over uncertainty. Must be tough.

Maybe instead of spinning up the hysterics on the internet you should seek help.

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So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

Maybe? None of us can foresee life ten months from now. Is it possible that we'll become a society that masks up for periods of time here and there? Maybe it remains optional but you'll always have one in your pocket because some businesses may require it during times of surge, people wear them more on mass transit or rather than shutting a school down due to an uptick in cases the school says "ok, everyone mask up for the next month". Who knows? Is that the end of the world for you?

Or maybe they'll be gone for good because it's truly endemic, antiviral treatments abound and masks aren't necessary. That would be great, I'd like to think that's where we'll be, but the last two years have taught me to manage expectations.

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So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

Maybe? None of us can foresee life ten months from now. Is it possible that we'll become a society that masks up for periods of time here and there? Maybe it remains optional but you'll always have one in your pocket because some businesses may require it during times of surge, people wear them more on mass transit or rather than shutting a school down due to an uptick in cases the school says "ok, everyone mask up for the next month". Who knows? Is that the end of the world for you?

Or maybe they'll be gone for good because it's truly endemic, antiviral treatments abound and masks aren't necessary. That would be great, I'd like to think that's where we'll be, but the last two years have taught me to manage expectations.

But don't you get it? The majority of parents are not going to go for mandatory masking in schools for years on end. People will vote on this one particular issue and swing VA back to red.

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So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

Maybe? None of us can foresee life ten months from now. Is it possible that we'll become a society that masks up for periods of time here and there? Maybe it remains optional but you'll always have one in your pocket because some businesses may require it during times of surge, people wear them more on mass transit or rather than shutting a school down due to an uptick in cases the school says "ok, everyone mask up for the next month". Who knows? Is that the end of the world for you?

Or maybe they'll be gone for good because it's truly endemic, antiviral treatments abound and masks aren't necessary. That would be great, I'd like to think that's where we'll be, but the last two years have taught me to manage expectations.

But don't you get it? The majority of parents are not going to go for mandatory masking in schools for years on end. People will vote on this one particular issue and swing VA back to red.

Yes, I get it. That's not what I want. But if I were king for a day standing here in early February would I definitively decree that masks go away on (pick any random date) and nevermore shall ever return to the Commonwealth? No. I hope numbers drop quickly and we can move to a place of masks optional by spring. I hope we won't ever have to have mandatory masking except maybe for small pockets of time if there is a large spike and hospitalizations increase tremendously. Can I confidently sit here and say what will happen? No, I can't.

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So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

Maybe? None of us can foresee life ten months from now. Is it possible that we'll become a society that masks up for periods of time here and there? Maybe it remains optional but you'll always have one in your pocket because some businesses may require it during times of surge, people wear them more on mass transit or rather than shutting a school down due to an uptick in cases the school says "ok, everyone mask up for the next month". Who knows? Is that the end of the world for you?

Or maybe they'll be gone for good because it's truly endemic, antiviral treatments abound and masks aren't necessary. That would be great, I'd like to think that's where we'll be, but the last two years have taught me to manage expectations.

But don't you get it? The majority of parents are not going to go for mandatory masking in schools for years on end. People will vote on this one particular issue and swing VA back to red.

You seem fixated on "for years on end".

Look at the positives - might help with your anxiety.
- vaccines and boosters are available for k-12 (weren't available at the start of school)
- numbers are coming down
- latest strain seems to have lower hospitalization rates (albeit more contagious)

Try to move on - this isn't healthy.

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So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

Maybe? None of us can foresee life ten months from now. Is it possible that we'll become a society that masks up for periods of time here and there? Maybe it remains optional but you'll always have one in your pocket because some businesses may require it during times of surge, people wear them more on mass transit or rather than shutting a school down due to an uptick in cases the school says "ok, everyone mask up for the next month". Who knows? Is that the end of the world for you?

Or maybe they'll be gone for good because it's truly endemic, antiviral treatments abound and masks aren't necessary. That would be great, I'd like to think that's where we'll be, but the last two years have taught me to manage expectations.

But don't you get it? The majority of parents are not going to go for mandatory masking in schools for years on end. People will vote on this one particular issue and swing VA back to red.

Yes, I get it. That's not what I want. But if I were king for a day standing here in early February would I definitively decree that masks go away on (pick any random date) and nevermore shall ever return to the Commonwealth? No. I hope numbers drop quickly and we can move to a place of masks optional by spring. I hope we won't ever have to have mandatory masking except maybe for small pockets of time if there is a large spike and hospitalizations increase tremendously. Can I confidently sit here and say what will happen? No, I can't.

Unfortunately, when Republicans are back in power in the VA legislature and local school boards, I do not think you will be getting your way on future mask mandates. I do not understand why Democrats can't see what is happening. It is a shame.

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Anonymous wrote:
So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

Maybe? None of us can foresee life ten months from now. Is it possible that we'll become a society that masks up for periods of time here and there? Maybe it remains optional but you'll always have one in your pocket because some businesses may require it during times of surge, people wear them more on mass transit or rather than shutting a school down due to an uptick in cases the school says "ok, everyone mask up for the next month". Who knows? Is that the end of the world for you?

Or maybe they'll be gone for good because it's truly endemic, antiviral treatments abound and masks aren't necessary. That would be great, I'd like to think that's where we'll be, but the last two years have taught me to manage expectations.

But don't you get it? The majority of parents are not going to go for mandatory masking in schools for years on end. People will vote on this one particular issue and swing VA back to red.

You seem fixated on "for years on end".

Look at the positives - might help with your anxiety.
- vaccines and boosters are available for k-12 (weren't available at the start of school)
- numbers are coming down
- latest strain seems to have lower hospitalization rates (albeit more contagious)

Try to move on - this isn't healthy.

Lmfao I haven’t caved in to that experimental crap they call vaccine and I definitely do not muzzle myself. Or my kids. We have been living lavishly traveling abroad with fake covid documents. No way I’m taking something nobody is responsible for. Oh, but they’re laughing all they way to the bank. How’s that myocarditis going, bruh?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

Maybe? None of us can foresee life ten months from now. Is it possible that we'll become a society that masks up for periods of time here and there? Maybe it remains optional but you'll always have one in your pocket because some businesses may require it during times of surge, people wear them more on mass transit or rather than shutting a school down due to an uptick in cases the school says "ok, everyone mask up for the next month". Who knows? Is that the end of the world for you?

Or maybe they'll be gone for good because it's truly endemic, antiviral treatments abound and masks aren't necessary. That would be great, I'd like to think that's where we'll be, but the last two years have taught me to manage expectations.

But don't you get it? The majority of parents are not going to go for mandatory masking in schools for years on end. People will vote on this one particular issue and swing VA back to red.

You seem fixated on "for years on end".

Look at the positives - might help with your anxiety.
- vaccines and boosters are available for k-12 (weren't available at the start of school)
- numbers are coming down
- latest strain seems to have lower hospitalization rates (albeit more contagious)

Try to move on - this isn't healthy.

What is more unhealthy is you being a covid denier to mask your anxiety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

Maybe? None of us can foresee life ten months from now. Is it possible that we'll become a society that masks up for periods of time here and there? Maybe it remains optional but you'll always have one in your pocket because some businesses may require it during times of surge, people wear them more on mass transit or rather than shutting a school down due to an uptick in cases the school says "ok, everyone mask up for the next month". Who knows? Is that the end of the world for you?

Or maybe they'll be gone for good because it's truly endemic, antiviral treatments abound and masks aren't necessary. That would be great, I'd like to think that's where we'll be, but the last two years have taught me to manage expectations.

But don't you get it? The majority of parents are not going to go for mandatory masking in schools for years on end. People will vote on this one particular issue and swing VA back to red.

Yes, I get it. That's not what I want. But if I were king for a day standing here in early February would I definitively decree that masks go away on (pick any random date) and nevermore shall ever return to the Commonwealth? No. I hope numbers drop quickly and we can move to a place of masks optional by spring. I hope we won't ever have to have mandatory masking except maybe for small pockets of time if there is a large spike and hospitalizations increase tremendously. Can I confidently sit here and say what will happen? No, I can't.

Unfortunately, when Republicans are back in power in the VA legislature and local school boards, I do not think you will be getting your way on future mask mandates. I do not understand why Democrats can't see what is happening. It is a shame.

Stop fantasizing. NJ just announced an end date. NEW JERSEY. Virginia won’t be long behind. The Republicans can go back to frothing at the mouth over CRT.

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So what happens when Covid is endemic and cases start to rise again during cold and flu season next school year. Mask mandate again from Oct through March?

Maybe? None of us can foresee life ten months from now. Is it possible that we'll become a society that masks up for periods of time here and there? Maybe it remains optional but you'll always have one in your pocket because some businesses may require it during times of surge, people wear them more on mass transit or rather than shutting a school down due to an uptick in cases the school says "ok, everyone mask up for the next month". Who knows? Is that the end of the world for you?

Or maybe they'll be gone for good because it's truly endemic, antiviral treatments abound and masks aren't necessary. That would be great, I'd like to think that's where we'll be, but the last two years have taught me to manage expectations.

But don't you get it? The majority of parents are not going to go for mandatory masking in schools for years on end. People will vote on this one particular issue and swing VA back to red.

You seem fixated on "for years on end".

Look at the positives - might help with your anxiety.
- vaccines and boosters are available for k-12 (weren't available at the start of school)
- numbers are coming down
- latest strain seems to have lower hospitalization rates (albeit more contagious)

Try to move on - this isn't healthy.

Lmfao I haven’t caved in to that experimental crap they call vaccine and I definitely do not muzzle myself. Or my kids. We have been living lavishly traveling abroad with fake covid documents. No way I’m taking something nobody is responsible for. Oh, but they’re laughing all they way to the bank. How’s that myocarditis going, bruh?

^^^^ I'm beginning to think the crazy PP above is actually an avid "pro-mask" supporter in disguise trying to promote the idea that parents who want to opt out of the mask mandate are nutso.