With all the positive cases at MCPS, can you simply elect to do zoom?

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Anonymous wrote:Why OP? Not vaccinated? Otherwise, what does it matter?

Many of the recent outbreaks are "breakthrough cases."

Answer me this: are they mild? Then I don’t care

The only way that "mild" cases can pose a problem is if the variant is so transmissible and therefore spreads so much that it ends up sending a large portion of vulnerable people (partially vaccinated, those with waning immunity, the elderly, the medically fragile, etc) into hospitals, and the hospitals get overwhelmed. So mild Covid in children or healthy, recently-boostered adults, doesn't really tell you much, because it doesn't give you an accurate picture of what the same variant could do if a whole lot of vulnerable people had it within a short period of time and all went to the hospital, also within a short period of time.

This is the concern with Omicron. The UK has come out with a predictive study that lists a range of potential Omicron outcomes, none of which are good, but the worse one is hospitals getting overwhelmed and lockdowns put in place, because despite a robust vaccination system, this variant is way more transmissible than Delta: it doubles cases once every 2.4 days.

Another helpful response. Thank you, PP!

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Anonymous wrote:Why OP? Not vaccinated? Otherwise, what does it matter?

Many of the recent outbreaks are "breakthrough cases."

Answer me this: are they mild? Then I don’t care

The only way that "mild" cases can pose a problem is if the variant is so transmissible and therefore spreads so much that it ends up sending a large portion of vulnerable people (partially vaccinated, those with waning immunity, the elderly, the medically fragile, etc) into hospitals, and the hospitals get overwhelmed. So mild Covid in children or healthy, recently-boostered adults, doesn't really tell you much, because it doesn't give you an accurate picture of what the same variant could do if a whole lot of vulnerable people had it within a short period of time and all went to the hospital, also within a short period of time.

This is the concern with Omicron. The UK has come out with a predictive study that lists a range of potential Omicron outcomes, none of which are good, but the worse one is hospitals getting overwhelmed and lockdowns put in place, because despite a robust vaccination system, this variant is way more transmissible than Delta: it doubles cases once every 2.4 days.

They don't care. Its only about them.

Not everyone in school can get boosted. That is uhhhh sort of the main point. If everyone can get boosted and the break through cases very minimal, there would be no need for this discussion.

It's also about a functioning society and economy that's not singularly focused on Covid. On a list of things I'm worried about this upcoming week, it doesn't even rank.

Thats great your family is invincible but for the rest of us, we still need precautions because we aren't.

Then get vaccinated/boosted. Wear a mask. There's your precautions.

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Anonymous wrote:Why OP? Not vaccinated? Otherwise, what does it matter?

Many of the recent outbreaks are "breakthrough cases."

Answer me this: are they mild? Then I don’t care

The only way that "mild" cases can pose a problem is if the variant is so transmissible and therefore spreads so much that it ends up sending a large portion of vulnerable people (partially vaccinated, those with waning immunity, the elderly, the medically fragile, etc) into hospitals, and the hospitals get overwhelmed. So mild Covid in children or healthy, recently-boostered adults, doesn't really tell you much, because it doesn't give you an accurate picture of what the same variant could do if a whole lot of vulnerable people had it within a short period of time and all went to the hospital, also within a short period of time.

This is the concern with Omicron. The UK has come out with a predictive study that lists a range of potential Omicron outcomes, none of which are good, but the worse one is hospitals getting overwhelmed and lockdowns put in place, because despite a robust vaccination system, this variant is way more transmissible than Delta: it doubles cases once every 2.4 days.

They don't care. Its only about them.

Not everyone in school can get boosted. That is uhhhh sort of the main point. If everyone can get boosted and the break through cases very minimal, there would be no need for this discussion.

It's also about a functioning society and economy that's not singularly focused on Covid. On a list of things I'm worried about this upcoming week, it doesn't even rank.

Thats great your family is invincible but for the rest of us, we still need precautions because we aren't.

Then get vaccinated/boosted. Wear a mask. There's your precautions.

Not everyone in school can get boosted. That is uhhhh sort of the main point. If everyone can get boosted and the break through cases very minimal, there would be no need for this discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:What positive cases? At our school, there have been very few—maybe 5 since school started and most of them weren’t kids…

Well, pay attention in the next few days. Lots of kids getting notified of a close contact testing positive over the last few days. The school takes a few days or a week to post the information.

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Anonymous wrote:Whether isolating or by choice, can a student simply join class by zoom? This would facilitate a measure of safety for all.

No. MCEA demanded a prohibition on concurrent teaching in their agreement with MCPS for this school year. I think this could have been a good way to deal with quarantined/isolated students. It's too bad the teachers blocked it.

Oh thisis good to know. This makes sense based on what I am seeing with the school communications. Are teachers allowed to put their class on Zoom or post a recording if they elect to, so that isolating students can watch it? I know many colleges are posting recordings of classes for this reason.

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Anonymous wrote:What positive cases? Our school has about 3. My kids ain’t staying home for that!

Same! Our school has had 3 cases since school opened in September.

My kid’s HS has had 5. I think we got notices about maybe 3 or 4 additional cases, but they never showed up on the dashboard.

Admin says that’s usually because a case turned out to be a false positive, or it was later determined the person had no close contacts on campus (like a parent or delivery person who was there less than 15 minutes).

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Anonymous wrote:Why OP? Not vaccinated? Otherwise, what does it matter?

Many of the recent outbreaks are "breakthrough cases."

Answer me this: are they mild? Then I don’t care

The only way that "mild" cases can pose a problem is if the variant is so transmissible and therefore spreads so much that it ends up sending a large portion of vulnerable people (partially vaccinated, those with waning immunity, the elderly, the medically fragile, etc) into hospitals, and the hospitals get overwhelmed. So mild Covid in children or healthy, recently-boostered adults, doesn't really tell you much, because it doesn't give you an accurate picture of what the same variant could do if a whole lot of vulnerable people had it within a short period of time and all went to the hospital, also within a short period of time.

This is the concern with Omicron. The UK has come out with a predictive study that lists a range of potential Omicron outcomes, none of which are good, but the worse one is hospitals getting overwhelmed and lockdowns put in place, because despite a robust vaccination system, this variant is way more transmissible than Delta: it doubles cases once every 2.4 days.

They don't care. Its only about them.

It's also about a functioning society and economy that's not singularly focused on Covid. On a list of things I'm worried about this upcoming week, it doesn't even rank.

Thats great your family is invincible but for the rest of us, we still need precautions because we aren't.

Then get vaccinated/boosted. Wear a mask. There's your precautions.

I'm the PP who wrote the Omicron paragraphs. I agree! But nearly everyone needs to get vaccinated and boostered for this to work, and as you know, there are so many places in the US where this advice seems to fall on deaf ears.
Even here, there currently aren't enough boostered people in the DC area to ward off the "worst Omicron option".

Thank you, Omicron Paragraph writer! You are a helpful responder on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:What positive cases? At our school, there have been very few—maybe 5 since school started and most of them weren’t kids…

Pay attention, multiple outbreaks.

Exactly! Multiple outbreaks up and down county. It seems to be taking the schools a while to get the formal communications out.

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Anonymous wrote:https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/positive-case-letters.aspx

I check that pretty regularly. But the Magruder letter is not listed. That makes me wonder how many others aren't.

yes, why is there a delay in getting the letters out? and also getting them posted?

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Anonymous wrote:Why OP? Not vaccinated? Otherwise, what does it matter?

Many of the recent outbreaks are "breakthrough cases."

And in a couple days, they’re breakthrough recoveries.

Wow are you stupid.

PP, this is not a very nice response. But you are sort of right.

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Anonymous wrote:Why OP? Not vaccinated? Otherwise, what does it matter?

Many of the recent outbreaks are "breakthrough cases."

Answer me this: are they mild? Then I don’t care

The only way that "mild" cases can pose a problem is if the variant is so transmissible and therefore spreads so much that it ends up sending a large portion of vulnerable people (partially vaccinated, those with waning immunity, the elderly, the medically fragile, etc) into hospitals, and the hospitals get overwhelmed. So mild Covid in children or healthy, recently-boostered adults, doesn't really tell you much, because it doesn't give you an accurate picture of what the same variant could do if a whole lot of vulnerable people had it within a short period of time and all went to the hospital, also within a short period of time.

This is the concern with Omicron. The UK has come out with a predictive study that lists a range of potential Omicron outcomes, none of which are good, but the worse one is hospitals getting overwhelmed and lockdowns put in place, because despite a robust vaccination system, this variant is way more transmissible than Delta: it doubles cases once every 2.4 days.

They don't care. Its only about them.

It's also about a functioning society and economy that's not singularly focused on Covid. On a list of things I'm worried about this upcoming week, it doesn't even rank.

Thats great your family is invincible but for the rest of us, we still need precautions because we aren't.

Then get vaccinated/boosted. Wear a mask. There's your precautions.

I'm the PP who wrote the Omicron paragraphs. I agree! But nearly everyone needs to get vaccinated and boostered for this to work, and as you know, there are so many places in the US where this advice seems to fall on deaf ears.
Even here, there currently aren't enough boostered people in the DC area to ward off the "worst Omicron option".

Thank you, Omicron Paragraph writer! You are a helpful responder on this thread.

Do we know for sure that a booster protects against Omicron? Should teens who aren’t six months out from the second shot get boosted anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:What positive cases? At our school, there have been very few—maybe 5 since school started and most of them weren’t kids…

Pay attention, multiple outbreaks.

Yet we're still talking about a small number of cases given the size of the district and county. And no reason to believe we're seeing a significant number of cases involving severe illness. Given the large number of kids vaccinated in MCPS, particularly older kids, we probably won't see much in the way of severe illness.

The students aren’t going to school in the NBA bubble; they’re traveling through and living in the community. Yes, many MCPS students are vaccinated and will avoid severe infections, but the same cannot be said for the members of the community that the students come in contact with. When the schools report positive cases, they do not include family members infected by the students. Similarly, if a staffer tests positive, they don’t include the staffer’s family members if they have infected by the staffer. So when a school reports that 4 students have tested positive, that just means a greater number of people in the community have been exposed and will likely test positive. Throughout this pandemic people have downplayed the symptoms and likelihood of a bad infection, until they’re the one suffering.

You are onto something. MCPS is clearly not doing enough to prevent a significant community outbreak. Kids who are exposed are allowed to keep being in school with masks off (lunch and sports) until they get symptoms or test positive. By then, they will have spread it to other kids and teachers. This whole thing makes no sense. They need to have an option so that kids can isolate while. able to view the class on a recording or live. With the way it is, I am concerned that many will send their kids to school while contagious (either on purpose or unknowingly by following the MCPS rules).

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Anonymous wrote:What positive cases? At our school, there have been very few—maybe 5 since school started and most of them weren’t kids…

Pay attention, multiple outbreaks.

Yet we're still talking about a small number of cases given the size of the district and county. And no reason to believe we're seeing a significant number of cases involving severe illness. Given the large number of kids vaccinated in MCPS, particularly older kids, we probably won't see much in the way of severe illness.

The students aren’t going to school in the NBA bubble; they’re traveling through and living in the community. Yes, many MCPS students are vaccinated and will avoid severe infections, but the same cannot be said for the members of the community that the students come in contact with. When the schools report positive cases, they do not include family members infected by the students. Similarly, if a staffer tests positive, they don’t include the staffer’s family members if they have infected by the staffer. So when a school reports that 4 students have tested positive, that just means a greater number of people in the community have been exposed and will likely test positive. Throughout this pandemic people have downplayed the symptoms and likelihood of a bad infection, until they’re the one suffering.

So? Others should get vaccinated/boosted, and take additional precautions to protect themselves if they are particularly high risk for not responding to the vaccine.

We shouldn't be continuing to sacrifice education and hurt children for the benefit of antivaxxers and the elderly. It is time they protect themselves and accept the consequences of their own decisions.

Wow, you are really missing the point. The anti-vaxxers are a relatively small number. The bigger number is the kids who received their 2nd shot more than 6 months ago and cannot get a booster. A POTENTIALLY bigger number is the kids who have a second shot but are not protected from Omicron. Why so much focus on the anti-vaxxers?

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Anonymous wrote:What positive cases? At our school, there have been very few—maybe 5 since school started and most of them weren’t kids…

Pay attention, multiple outbreaks.

Yet we're still talking about a small number of cases given the size of the district and county. And no reason to believe we're seeing a significant number of cases involving severe illness. Given the large number of kids vaccinated in MCPS, particularly older kids, we probably won't see much in the way of severe illness.

The students aren’t going to school in the NBA bubble; they’re traveling through and living in the community. Yes, many MCPS students are vaccinated and will avoid severe infections, but the same cannot be said for the members of the community that the students come in contact with. When the schools report positive cases, they do not include family members infected by the students. Similarly, if a staffer tests positive, they don’t include the staffer’s family members if they have infected by the staffer. So when a school reports that 4 students have tested positive, that just means a greater number of people in the community have been exposed and will likely test positive. Throughout this pandemic people have downplayed the symptoms and likelihood of a bad infection, until they’re the one suffering.

So? The same can be said about a given restaurant or the mall. Somehow schools are seen as the key to stopping the pandemic by a small group of posters. Kids can be vaccinated now. Masks are mandated. Good enough.

Not the same. In school, the kids have their masks off 1) for lunch 2) for indoor sports and 3) random instances like changing in locker room, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:What positive cases? At our school, there have been very few—maybe 5 since school started and most of them weren’t kids…

Pay attention, multiple outbreaks.

Yet we're still talking about a small number of cases given the size of the district and county. And no reason to believe we're seeing a significant number of cases involving severe illness. Given the large number of kids vaccinated in MCPS, particularly older kids, we probably won't see much in the way of severe illness.

The students aren’t going to school in the NBA bubble; they’re traveling through and living in the community. Yes, many MCPS students are vaccinated and will avoid severe infections, but the same cannot be said for the members of the community that the students come in contact with. When the schools report positive cases, they do not include family members infected by the students. Similarly, if a staffer tests positive, they don’t include the staffer’s family members if they have infected by the staffer. So when a school reports that 4 students have tested positive, that just means a greater number of people in the community have been exposed and will likely test positive. Throughout this pandemic people have downplayed the symptoms and likelihood of a bad infection, until they’re the one suffering.

So? Others should get vaccinated/boosted, and take additional precautions to protect themselves if they are particularly high risk for not responding to the vaccine.

We shouldn't be continuing to sacrifice education and hurt children for the benefit of antivaxxers and the elderly. It is time they protect themselves and accept the consequences of their own decisions.

Screaming about antivaxxers is silly when most people are vaccinated. You need a talking point.

How are kids being hurt by taking precautions? Isn't it good to teach them to care about others, how to live in a society/close contact with others? Teach them empathy? Teach them kindness? Compassion?

How is education being sacrificed? Its not. MCPS education is very concerning right now, but its not because of covid.

Thank you, PP. This crusader against the anti-vaxxer needs go to another thread. the anti-vaxxers are not the big obvious threat standing right in front of us. MCPS needs to step up the pre-caution measures to protect the masses and right now they are not doing enough.