S/O: MD Home Daycare Capacity Limits

[Anonymous]

In another thread, a home daycare provider mentioned that Maryland home daycares were being limited in terms of how many kids they could take back. Can anyone provide more details?

I have reserved a spot for my infant at a home daycare that has 10 kids enrolled (licensed for 12). There are three full time care providers, and the home has a family of five (which includes one of the caregivers). The space is quite large (maybe 2000 square feet), but the infant and toddler/preschool rooms are only separated by half walls so not distinct classrooms.

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

Call your provider ASAP. Our in-home said they may have to close if they have to reduce the number of kids.

[Anonymous]

All of them are limited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In another thread, a home daycare provider mentioned that Maryland home daycares were being limited in terms of how many kids they could take back. Can anyone provide more details?

I have reserved a spot for my infant at a home daycare that has 10 kids enrolled (licensed for 12). There are three full time care providers, and the home has a family of five (which includes one of the caregivers). The space is quite large (maybe 2000 square feet), but the infant and toddler/preschool rooms are only separated by half walls so not distinct classrooms.

Thanks in advance.

In Maryland, in Home daycares are limited to a maximum of 10 people in The entire home, regardless if the residents are out at work all day and not home during daycare hours. This is what I was told by the licensing office and the guidelines put out by MSDE.

In your case, since there are five residents in the home then the home daycare will be allowed five children total. I don’t see how they will be able to operate with their maximum number of children plus staff. It needs to be kept under 10 people total. The number restriction does not matter how large or small the home is.

This can change as the guidelines are loosened.

[Anonymous]

Thank you, PP. That is what I was afraid of. It seems like the home daycare we have a spot in is going to postpone opening until capacity limits are eased.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In another thread, a home daycare provider mentioned that Maryland home daycares were being limited in terms of how many kids they could take back. Can anyone provide more details?

I have reserved a spot for my infant at a home daycare that has 10 kids enrolled (licensed for 12). There are three full time care providers, and the home has a family of five (which includes one of the caregivers). The space is quite large (maybe 2000 square feet), but the infant and toddler/preschool rooms are only separated by half walls so not distinct classrooms.

Thanks in advance.

In Maryland, in Home daycares are limited to a maximum of 10 people in The entire home, regardless if the residents are out at work all day and not home during daycare hours. This is what I was told by the licensing office and the guidelines put out by MSDE.

In your case, since there are five residents in the home then the home daycare will be allowed five children total. I don’t see how they will be able to operate with their maximum number of children plus staff. It needs to be kept under 10 people total. The number restriction does not matter how large or small the home is.

This can change as the guidelines are loosened.

That's insane. Your statement about in-home daycares is absolutely correct. Look at the application here specifying that 10-person-max requirement.

There's no good reason for that requirement. At centers, the requirement is just 10 people per room. Every in-home daycare I've ever seen has a separate area set up in the home for child care. The 10-person limit should only apply to that area.

Further evidence that Division of Early Childhood has no idea what they're doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In another thread, a home daycare provider mentioned that Maryland home daycares were being limited in terms of how many kids they could take back. Can anyone provide more details?

I have reserved a spot for my infant at a home daycare that has 10 kids enrolled (licensed for 12). There are three full time care providers, and the home has a family of five (which includes one of the caregivers). The space is quite large (maybe 2000 square feet), but the infant and toddler/preschool rooms are only separated by half walls so not distinct classrooms.

Thanks in advance.

In Maryland, in Home daycares are limited to a maximum of 10 people in The entire home, regardless if the residents are out at work all day and not home during daycare hours. This is what I was told by the licensing office and the guidelines put out by MSDE.

In your case, since there are five residents in the home then the home daycare will be allowed five children total. I don’t see how they will be able to operate with their maximum number of children plus staff. It needs to be kept under 10 people total. The number restriction does not matter how large or small the home is.

This can change as the guidelines are loosened.

That's insane. Your statement about in-home daycares is absolutely correct. Look at the application here specifying that 10-person-max requirement.

There's no good reason for that requirement. At centers, the requirement is just 10 people per room. Every in-home daycare I've ever seen has a separate area set up in the home for child care. The 10-person limit should only apply to that area.

Further evidence that Division of Early Childhood has no idea what they're doing.

+1
This is going to force many in-homes to close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In another thread, a home daycare provider mentioned that Maryland home daycares were being limited in terms of how many kids they could take back. Can anyone provide more details?

I have reserved a spot for my infant at a home daycare that has 10 kids enrolled (licensed for 12). There are three full time care providers, and the home has a family of five (which includes one of the caregivers). The space is quite large (maybe 2000 square feet), but the infant and toddler/preschool rooms are only separated by half walls so not distinct classrooms.

Thanks in advance.

In Maryland, in Home daycares are limited to a maximum of 10 people in The entire home, regardless if the residents are out at work all day and not home during daycare hours. This is what I was told by the licensing office and the guidelines put out by MSDE.

In your case, since there are five residents in the home then the home daycare will be allowed five children total. I don’t see how they will be able to operate with their maximum number of children plus staff. It needs to be kept under 10 people total. The number restriction does not matter how large or small the home is.

This can change as the guidelines are loosened.

That's insane. Your statement about in-home daycares is absolutely correct. Look at the application here specifying that 10-person-max requirement.

There's no good reason for that requirement. At centers, the requirement is just 10 people per room. Every in-home daycare I've ever seen has a separate area set up in the home for child care. The 10-person limit should only apply to that area.

Further evidence that Division of Early Childhood has no idea what they're doing.

+1
This is going to force many in-homes to close.

Many already have and you will see another round of closings because the EPCC funding is ending and since the funding is ending the parents will simply choose to keep their kids at home, thus daycares losing that income.

To be fair, this 10 person nonsense was set by the department of health and not the department of education (even though I agree that they don’t have any idea what they’re doing either).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In another thread, a home daycare provider mentioned that Maryland home daycares were being limited in terms of how many kids they could take back. Can anyone provide more details?

I have reserved a spot for my infant at a home daycare that has 10 kids enrolled (licensed for 12). There are three full time care providers, and the home has a family of five (which includes one of the caregivers). The space is quite large (maybe 2000 square feet), but the infant and toddler/preschool rooms are only separated by half walls so not distinct classrooms.

Thanks in advance.

In Maryland, in Home daycares are limited to a maximum of 10 people in The entire home, regardless if the residents are out at work all day and not home during daycare hours. This is what I was told by the licensing office and the guidelines put out by MSDE.

In your case, since there are five residents in the home then the home daycare will be allowed five children total. I don’t see how they will be able to operate with their maximum number of children plus staff. It needs to be kept under 10 people total. The number restriction does not matter how large or small the home is.

This can change as the guidelines are loosened.

That's insane. Your statement about in-home daycares is absolutely correct. Look at the application here specifying that 10-person-max requirement.

There's no good reason for that requirement. At centers, the requirement is just 10 people per room. Every in-home daycare I've ever seen has a separate area set up in the home for child care. The 10-person limit should only apply to that area.

Further evidence that Division of Early Childhood has no idea what they're doing.

+1
This is going to force many in-homes to close.

Many already have and you will see another round of closings because the EPCC funding is ending and since the funding is ending the parents will simply choose to keep their kids at home, thus daycares losing that income.

To be fair, this 10 person nonsense was set by the department of health and not the department of education (even though I agree that they don’t have any idea what they’re doing either).

Are you sure about that? I suspect the 10-person limit was set by the Department of Health, but the decision to apply it differently for centers and in-home daycares was probably done by the Department of Education. If they were consistent, the 10-person limit would only apply to the areas/rooms used for childcare in an in-home setting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In another thread, a home daycare provider mentioned that Maryland home daycares were being limited in terms of how many kids they could take back. Can anyone provide more details?

I have reserved a spot for my infant at a home daycare that has 10 kids enrolled (licensed for 12). There are three full time care providers, and the home has a family of five (which includes one of the caregivers). The space is quite large (maybe 2000 square feet), but the infant and toddler/preschool rooms are only separated by half walls so not distinct classrooms.

Thanks in advance.

In Maryland, in Home daycares are limited to a maximum of 10 people in The entire home, regardless if the residents are out at work all day and not home during daycare hours. This is what I was told by the licensing office and the guidelines put out by MSDE.

In your case, since there are five residents in the home then the home daycare will be allowed five children total. I don’t see how they will be able to operate with their maximum number of children plus staff. It needs to be kept under 10 people total. The number restriction does not matter how large or small the home is.

This can change as the guidelines are loosened.

That's insane. Your statement about in-home daycares is absolutely correct. Look at the application here specifying that 10-person-max requirement.

There's no good reason for that requirement. At centers, the requirement is just 10 people per room. Every in-home daycare I've ever seen has a separate area set up in the home for child care. The 10-person limit should only apply to that area.

Further evidence that Division of Early Childhood has no idea what they're doing.

+1
This is going to force many in-homes to close.

Many already have and you will see another round of closings because the EPCC funding is ending and since the funding is ending the parents will simply choose to keep their kids at home, thus daycares losing that income.

To be fair, this 10 person nonsense was set by the department of health and not the department of education (even though I agree that they don’t have any idea what they’re doing either).

Are you sure about that? I suspect the 10-person limit was set by the Department of Health, but the decision to apply it differently for centers and in-home daycares was probably done by the Department of Education. If they were consistent, the 10-person limit would only apply to the areas/rooms used for childcare in an in-home setting.

No, I’m not certain about who made that decision. It makes no sense how it was applied differently to in-home daycare’s versus centers. Are you a daycare provider? I am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In another thread, a home daycare provider mentioned that Maryland home daycares were being limited in terms of how many kids they could take back. Can anyone provide more details?

I have reserved a spot for my infant at a home daycare that has 10 kids enrolled (licensed for 12). There are three full time care providers, and the home has a family of five (which includes one of the caregivers). The space is quite large (maybe 2000 square feet), but the infant and toddler/preschool rooms are only separated by half walls so not distinct classrooms.

Thanks in advance.

In Maryland, in Home daycares are limited to a maximum of 10 people in The entire home, regardless if the residents are out at work all day and not home during daycare hours. This is what I was told by the licensing office and the guidelines put out by MSDE.

In your case, since there are five residents in the home then the home daycare will be allowed five children total. I don’t see how they will be able to operate with their maximum number of children plus staff. It needs to be kept under 10 people total. The number restriction does not matter how large or small the home is.

This can change as the guidelines are loosened.

That's insane. Your statement about in-home daycares is absolutely correct. Look at the application here specifying that 10-person-max requirement.

There's no good reason for that requirement. At centers, the requirement is just 10 people per room. Every in-home daycare I've ever seen has a separate area set up in the home for child care. The 10-person limit should only apply to that area.

Further evidence that Division of Early Childhood has no idea what they're doing.

+1
This is going to force many in-homes to close.

Many already have and you will see another round of closings because the EPCC funding is ending and since the funding is ending the parents will simply choose to keep their kids at home, thus daycares losing that income.

To be fair, this 10 person nonsense was set by the department of health and not the department of education (even though I agree that they don’t have any idea what they’re doing either).

If essential worker parents can now “simply” keep their kids at home now, they probably had no business brining them in the first place! But I’m not sure this is true, everyone I know who has been using this program still needs care, and if they are at a different place than normal, a bit nervous about how this all shakes out (e.g., what if the regular families come back but their old daycare isn’t open yet).

[Anonymous]

MSDE sent out a letter yesterday reiterating the 10 people max per home limit. Sorry, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MSDE sent out a letter yesterday reiterating the 10 people max per home limit. Sorry, OP.

I'm mostly just curious... Can you post the letter? It makes no sense to apply the 10 person max to a room in a center, but the entire house for an in-home provider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MSDE sent out a letter yesterday reiterating the 10 people max per home limit. Sorry, OP.

Until what phase is this supposed to last?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MSDE sent out a letter yesterday reiterating the 10 people max per home limit. Sorry, OP.

I'm mostly just curious... Can you post the letter? It makes no sense to apply the 10 person max to a room in a center, but the entire house for an in-home provider.

In response to questions from providers after Governor Hogan’s announcement that Maryland is entering Phase 2 of the recovery, MSDE is providing this clarification on child care operating procedures in Maryland.

In continuing our safe and responsible reopening of child care, we will continue to accept applications for all licensed child care programs to operate as Essential Personnel Child Care (EPCC) sites and community organizations to operate as Essential Personnel School Age (EPSA) sites. EPCC and EPSA providers must be approved by the Office of Child Care (OCC) to ensure program staff have read and understood the joint MSDE and Maryland Department of Health (MDH) guidance on the Division of Early Childhood (DEC) website at https://earlychildhood.marylandpublicschools.org/early.... Licensed child care providers may contact their licensing specialist to apply as EPCC sites.

The reopening of child care programs statewide does not change current guidance for health and safety during the COVID-19 pandemic, such as in regards to group size. Group size in rooms remains at a maximum of 10 persons. In addition, licensing regulations temporarily relaxed during the onset of COVID-19 are currently under review and will be shared shortly with clear guidance on requirements and effective dates.

Please continue to review our FAQs at https://earlychildhood.marylandpublicschools.org/.../faqs.... Additional updates can be found on our website at https://earlychildhood.marylandpublicschools.org/covid-faqs.


* This memo says group size in room as 10 max, but for family daycares it's for the entire home.

I don't know how long the 10 person max will last.