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Anonymous
Yes, and those students should be sent back too. However, the person I responded to was specifically talking about Lewis, so I only responded to their comments on Lewis transfers. |
Anonymous
| So September 3 is next BRAC meeting will we get maps then? |
Anonymous
Some of these kids could be kids who moved as rising seniors and availed of the pupil placement option for kids to finish out their high school years at the same HS they'd been attending. The WSHS poster(s) who keeps coming up with these draconian ideas to kick kids already there out or to foreclose Lewis kids from transferring out for valid reasons is dissipating any empathy for the WSHS community. |
Anonymous
I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there. I think they're making a good point about why anyone is even talking about moving existing students out of WSHS while so many out of boundary students are allowed in. They didn't even bring up all the residency fraud students. |
Anonymous
If FCPS is going to rezone people who purchased homes in bounds for WSHS or any other in bound school, and the school is getting rezoned for being overcrowded, AND the school is closed to transfers and has been closed to transfers since every current students was in early elementary school or preschool, then of course the logical place to start moving students out of the school is by moving out the students from other schools who either transferred into WSHS using legit means of transfer that are only supposed to be good for 1 school year per FCPS own policy on transfers, and especially any student who is using false addresses to attend the school, such as moving out of bounds to a new home in middle school, but never updating the address with FCPS so they can continue to attend the school. What is "draconian" about enforcing FCPS own policies on transfers, by not allowing any transfers into a school that is closed to transfers, sending the 60 transfers back to their own zoned schools at the end of this school year since they were not supposed to transfer into WSHS anyway based on FCPS established policy on transfers, requiring any transfers into a school to reapply yearly and actially enroll in the classes that were used to obtain the transfer as required by FCPS own policy, and removing any non zoned students by a residency check, to get an accurate and fair count of student numbers prior to rezoning a single student legitimately zoned for the overcrowded school? The only people who would find enforcing established FCPS policy as "dtaconian" is someone who is likely lying about where they live to attend a school they are not zoned for. |
Anonymous
Except that it is not. Parents have reported differences in Honors and AAP at many MS. |
Anonymous
There are approximately 60 students who transfer into WSHS using legitimate, recognized channels If FCPS had enforced their policy on schools being closed to transfers, then WSHS would have had 2690 students last year instead of 2750 students. If FCPS had enforced their policy on transfers, then WSHS would only need 1 trailer, if that. The trailers that are being used by WSHS hold 2 classrooms of roughly 25 students per classroom. That is 50-60 students accomodated per trailer, nearly the exact number of student transfers into WSHS last year. If FCPS enforced their policy on schools being closed to transfers, ALL of Rolling Valley could have attended WSHS instead of being a split feeder, and the school enrollment would be equal or less than it is currently with roughly 60 transfers of students from other high schools. If FCPS enforced its policy on schools being closed to transfers, then the Sangster neighborhood and the Hunt Valley neighborhood down Gambril Rd could stay at WSHS and the enrollment would decrease next year. If a school is closed to transfers, then the only transfers that should be allowed at that school are outbound transfers. The transfers into the school should not double over the course of 3 years, as it did at WSHS according yo FCPS own transfer dashboard records. All out of bound students need to be removed before any in bound student is rezoned at any overcapacity school, not just WSHS but all of the overcapacity schools. |
Anonymous
60 transfers into West Springfield is the capacity of one of those new trailers, plus a few extra students. |
Anonymous
West Springfield has a capacity of 2493, so it's significantly overcrowded with either 2690 students or 2750 students. Last year it had almost 2800 students. The 58 students transferring in last year, only 39 of whom were transferring pursuant to the student transfer regulations, just don't move the needle that much. |
Anonymous
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For a school "Closed" to transfers for years, 60 transfers does seem high. I can see them letting some teachers transfer in their students, but that would likely only be a handful of students. Is it clear that these transfer students are using the official transfer policy? Could it be a special education program that is not part of the normal transfer policy?
Another thought - it is possible between the 2005 boundary changes and moving Daventry into WS (2015) that they shrunk the Lee/Lewis boundaries TOO much. Remember, while the Lewis boundaries look simple and as large as West Springfield's, there is a huge no-man zone (no homes) carve out. The Ft. Belvoir north property with NGA, 95, Mixing Bowl, Fullerton industrial center, other industrial use on the southern end of Backlick, the car dealerships and data center on Loisdale, and GSA warehouse property all together take a big chunk out of that boundary. So much so that they pretty much make Saratoga an island. The first step overall should still be to go back to AP at all FCPS high schools. The county is not obligated to offer two advanced programs at the high school level. The second step, which should be done in tandem with the first, is to standardize language offerings in the county. Less common languages (say Russian) should be available virtually. If these two things are not done, then any boundary changes will be moot because of the tsunami of transfers that will happen. A couple of comments seemed to suggest that they should keep the differences in curriculum so that students can transfer. That is no way to run a school system and punishes those remaining at the school (many of whom can't transfer). FCPS has become quite dysfunctional in the last 20-25 years. |
Anonymous
Exactly. They never should have moved Daventry into WSHS. Now Daventry will have to move as well as the Hunt Valley neighborhoods. Which will cause a cascade of moves at South County because they are unlikely to send those Gambrill neighborhoods to Lewis, which is twice as far away. It's an absolute mess. I don't believe the WS families who say that the population at WSHS will drop in coming years. It's probably only going to go up. 200 or 300 more kids? Who could know. Five years from now, which West Springfield neighborhood goes next? Orange Hunt? Rolling Valley? |
Anonymous
I believe the thing about the Daventry move was that they UNDER estimated how many HS students it would affect. Like they thought it would be a small number, but it was much more because kids who were pupil placing to (LB, SC, Hayfield, Edison etc.) suddenly came back to their new base school at WS now that it was an option. I believe you’d see the same thing happen if they moved the nicer TH and SFH in the RV split to Irving-WSHS - it would be many more students than their initial estimate. |
Anonymous
This is exactly what will happen Daventry had far fewer high school students in their estimated numbers than Rolling Valley has. |
Anonymous
This is a ridiculous post. |
Anonymous
Those transfer students move the needle enough that eliminating the transfers into WSHS would also eliminate one of the new trailers. That is a huge impact, especially since the new trailers are being used as a justification for rezoning. |