Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.


They are terrible. Don’t move there for sure.


Yup. You can keep your Urbanists vibrant density in U Street and the Navy Yard. We like our village neighborhoods in the city just fine.


every restaurant on Wisconsin Ave is jammed in non-covid times. don't know why we need "more density" to support this business. Everything seems nicely balanced.


Really? Lots of the restaurants on and near Wisconsin Avenue have been struggling for years - some spaces have even had multiple tenants and lengthy vacancies.

I'm curious which restaurants were jammed in non-covid times? Guapos is the only place that is usually crowded but even on Friday & Saturday nights they rarely open the upstairs section.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.


They are terrible. Don’t move there for sure.


Yup. You can keep your Urbanists vibrant density in U Street and the Navy Yard. We like our village neighborhoods in the city just fine.


every restaurant on Wisconsin Ave is jammed in non-covid times. don't know why we need "more density" to support this business. Everything seems nicely balanced.


The mayor and the Density Bros say that DC needs to double down on density to recover from coronavirus.


Please go take your hydroxychloroquine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.


They are terrible. Don’t move there for sure.


Yup. You can keep your Urbanists vibrant density in U Street and the Navy Yard. We like our village neighborhoods in the city just fine.


every restaurant on Wisconsin Ave is jammed in non-covid times. don't know why we need "more density" to support this business. Everything seems nicely balanced.


Really? Lots of the restaurants on and near Wisconsin Avenue have been struggling for years - some spaces have even had multiple tenants and lengthy vacancies.

I'm curious which restaurants were jammed in non-covid times? Guapos is the only place that is usually crowded but even on Friday & Saturday nights they rarely open the upstairs section.


Cactus, barcelona, silver, raku. And guapos. Jammed. Millies. Jammed. If covid hadnt closed it, surfside would b turning aaway people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.


They are terrible. Don’t move there for sure.


Yup. You can keep your Urbanists vibrant density in U Street and the Navy Yard. We like our village neighborhoods in the city just fine.


every restaurant on Wisconsin Ave is jammed in non-covid times. don't know why we need "more density" to support this business. Everything seems nicely balanced.


Really? Lots of the restaurants on and near Wisconsin Avenue have been struggling for years - some spaces have even had multiple tenants and lengthy vacancies.

I'm curious which restaurants were jammed in non-covid times? Guapos is the only place that is usually crowded but even on Friday & Saturday nights they rarely open the upstairs section.


Cactus, barcelona, silver, raku. And guapos. Jammed. Millies. Jammed. If covid hadnt closed it, surfside would b turning aaway people.


Grilled Oyster closed. And Silver is rumored to be filing BK.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.


They are terrible. Don’t move there for sure.


Yup. You can keep your Urbanists vibrant density in U Street and the Navy Yard. We like our village neighborhoods in the city just fine.


every restaurant on Wisconsin Ave is jammed in non-covid times. don't know why we need "more density" to support this business. Everything seems nicely balanced.


Really? Lots of the restaurants on and near Wisconsin Avenue have been struggling for years - some spaces have even had multiple tenants and lengthy vacancies.

I'm curious which restaurants were jammed in non-covid times? Guapos is the only place that is usually crowded but even on Friday & Saturday nights they rarely open the upstairs section.


Cactus, barcelona, silver, raku. And guapos. Jammed. Millies. Jammed. If covid hadnt closed it, surfside would b turning aaway people.


Millie’s and the Spring Valley Shopping Center are good templates for appropriate density and neighborhood-serving retail that are compatible with an adjacent residential neighborhood.
Anonymous
https://www.dclibrary.org/sites/default/files/Document%208C.2%20-%20Mixed%20Use%20Real%20Estate%20Projects%20Policy%20-%20May%2014%2C%202020.pdf

Public Library District of Columbia

MIXED-USE REAL ESTATE PROJECTS POLICY

Since 2007, the Board of Library Trustees has led the transformation of the library campus
and recognized the need for a mixed-use real estate project policy to help guide the Library.
In 2007, the Board adopted its first mixed-use policy and amended the plan in 2014.
The Board of Library Trustees recognizes the District’s goal and commitment to housing
equity. In keeping with the equity objectives outlined in its Facilities Master Plan 2020-2030,
the Library will work to support the District’s Comprehensive Plan to ensure all residents
can continue to live in the city and benefit from economic, cultural and educational
opportunities.

Ensuring the delivery of quality library services and spaces is the primary focus of the Board
of Library Trustees when renovating or rebuilding libraries. With that in mind, the Library
shall explore and leverage any mixed-use development for future library projects as a
means to improve the quality of libraries, increase their accessibility and use, and expand
the inventory of affordable housing available to District residents.

Working in collaboration with all relevant District agencies but essentially the Office of the
Deputy Mayor for Planning and Economic Development and the District of Columbia
Housing Authority, the Board of Library Trustees will welcome appropriate mixed-use
opportunities and provide guidance and encouragement to library staff and other relevant
parties to ensure that the library system and the community receive the greatest possible
benefit.

Document #8C.2
Board of Library Trustees Meeting
May 14, 2020

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Millie’s and the Spring Valley Shopping Center are good templates for appropriate density and neighborhood-serving retail that are compatible with an adjacent residential neighborhood.


A one-story shopping center built in 1939 with a surface parking lot in front? In DC, in 2020?

Nobody's going to build any more of those in DC, nor should anybody.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Millie’s and the Spring Valley Shopping Center are good templates for appropriate density and neighborhood-serving retail that are compatible with an adjacent residential neighborhood.


A one-story shopping center built in 1939 with a surface parking lot in front? In DC, in 2020?

Nobody's going to build any more of those in DC, nor should anybody.


Spring Valley and western AU Park are about as suburban as you can find. No one wants “urbanism” there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Millie’s and the Spring Valley Shopping Center are good templates for appropriate density and neighborhood-serving retail that are compatible with an adjacent residential neighborhood.


A one-story shopping center built in 1939 with a surface parking lot in front? In DC, in 2020?

Nobody's going to build any more of those in DC, nor should anybody.


Spring Valley and western AU Park are about as suburban as you can find. No one wants “urbanism” there.


Neighbors Against More Neighbors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.dclibrary.org/sites/default/files/Document%208C.2%20-%20Mixed%20Use%20Real%20Estate%20Projects%20Policy%20-%20May%2014%2C%202020.pdf

Public Library District of Columbia

MIXED-USE REAL ESTATE PROJECTS POLICY

Since 2007, the Board of Library Trustees has led the transformation of the library campus
and recognized the need for a mixed-use real estate project policy to help guide the Library.
In 2007, the Board adopted its first mixed-use policy and amended the plan in 2014.
The Board of Library Trustees recognizes the District’s goal and commitment to housing
equity. In keeping with the equity objectives outlined in its Facilities Master Plan 2020-2030,
the Library will work to support the District’s Comprehensive Plan to ensure all residents
can continue to live in the city and benefit from economic, cultural and educational
opportunities.

Ensuring the delivery of quality library services and spaces is the primary focus of the Board
of Library Trustees when renovating or rebuilding libraries. With that in mind, the Library
shall explore and leverage any mixed-use development for future library projects as a
means to improve the quality of libraries, increase their accessibility and use, and expand
the inventory of affordable housing available to District residents.

Working in collaboration with all relevant District agencies but essentially the Office of the
Deputy Mayor for Planning and Economic Development and the District of Columbia
Housing Authority, the Board of Library Trustees will welcome appropriate mixed-use
opportunities and provide guidance and encouragement to library staff and other relevant
parties to ensure that the library system and the community receive the greatest possible
benefit.

Document #8C.2
Board of Library Trustees Meeting
May 14, 2020



This is a sop to Mayor Barry-Bowser and her developer johns. But the Tenley and architectural award-winning Cleveland Park libraries are already built. There is talk about renovating the Chevy Chase library, but the community will say “no thanks” if some dense mixed-use gift to a favored crony developer is part of the mix.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Millie’s and the Spring Valley Shopping Center are good templates for appropriate density and neighborhood-serving retail that are compatible with an adjacent residential neighborhood.


A one-story shopping center built in 1939 with a surface parking lot in front? In DC, in 2020?

Nobody's going to build any more of those in DC, nor should anybody.


Spring Valley and western AU Park are about as suburban as you can find. No one wants “urbanism” there.


Neighbors Against More Neighbors.


Why would Spring Valley trade leafy SFH streets for dense mixed-use? It’s laughable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Millie’s and the Spring Valley Shopping Center are good templates for appropriate density and neighborhood-serving retail that are compatible with an adjacent residential neighborhood.


A one-story shopping center built in 1939 with a surface parking lot in front? In DC, in 2020?

Nobody's going to build any more of those in DC, nor should anybody.


Spring Valley and western AU Park are about as suburban as you can find. No one wants “urbanism” there.


Neighbors Against More Neighbors.


Why would Spring Valley trade leafy SFH streets for dense mixed-use? It’s laughable.


Why do you think that you (assuming you're a Spring Valley resident) will get the choice? You own your property (assuming that you're not a renter); you don't own the neighborhood.

Almost certainly the people who lived in the area before your single-family-detached houses and streets were built did not choose for the property owners to build what they built, but here you are nonetheless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.dclibrary.org/sites/default/files/Document%208C.2%20-%20Mixed%20Use%20Real%20Estate%20Projects%20Policy%20-%20May%2014%2C%202020.pdf

Public Library District of Columbia

MIXED-USE REAL ESTATE PROJECTS POLICY

Since 2007, the Board of Library Trustees has led the transformation of the library campus
and recognized the need for a mixed-use real estate project policy to help guide the Library.
In 2007, the Board adopted its first mixed-use policy and amended the plan in 2014.
The Board of Library Trustees recognizes the District’s goal and commitment to housing
equity. In keeping with the equity objectives outlined in its Facilities Master Plan 2020-2030,
the Library will work to support the District’s Comprehensive Plan to ensure all residents
can continue to live in the city and benefit from economic, cultural and educational
opportunities.

Ensuring the delivery of quality library services and spaces is the primary focus of the Board
of Library Trustees when renovating or rebuilding libraries. With that in mind, the Library
shall explore and leverage any mixed-use development for future library projects as a
means to improve the quality of libraries, increase their accessibility and use, and expand
the inventory of affordable housing available to District residents.

Working in collaboration with all relevant District agencies but essentially the Office of the
Deputy Mayor for Planning and Economic Development and the District of Columbia
Housing Authority, the Board of Library Trustees will welcome appropriate mixed-use
opportunities and provide guidance and encouragement to library staff and other relevant
parties to ensure that the library system and the community receive the greatest possible
benefit.

Document #8C.2
Board of Library Trustees Meeting
May 14, 2020



This is a sop to Mayor Barry-Bowser and her developer johns. But the Tenley and architectural award-winning Cleveland Park libraries are already built. There is talk about renovating the Chevy Chase library, but the community will say “no thanks” if some dense mixed-use gift to a favored crony developer is part of the mix.


Last week, DC Library's Board of Trustees passed a resolution for DC libraries to leverage development of library properties for more housing.
Tenleytown's Library is built with extra structural supports to allow construction above the current structure.

The memo posted last week served as a reminder that all of the libraries built over the last ten years were built to accommodate additional housing on top of them once that was politically tenable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Millie’s and the Spring Valley Shopping Center are good templates for appropriate density and neighborhood-serving retail that are compatible with an adjacent residential neighborhood.


A one-story shopping center built in 1939 with a surface parking lot in front? In DC, in 2020?

Nobody's going to build any more of those in DC, nor should anybody.


Spring Valley and western AU Park are about as suburban as you can find. No one wants “urbanism” there.


Neighbors Against More Neighbors.


Why would Spring Valley trade leafy SFH streets for dense mixed-use? It’s laughable.


Why do you think that you (assuming you're a Spring Valley resident) will get the choice? You own your property (assuming that you're not a renter); you don't own the neighborhood.

Almost certainly the people who lived in the area before your single-family-detached houses and streets were built did not choose for the property owners to build what they built, but here you are nonetheless.


This is why zoning is important. Folks, if you don’t want to see SFH zoning ended, write to Mary Cheh and tell her that the mayor’s comp plan, “upFLUMming and “gentle density” plans should be DOA in NW
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