Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?

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I think Covid-19 is causing you to hallucinate. DC hardly has any bike lanes but the ones DC has are in fact well used and are used almost exclusively by DC residents.

If you are so into driving why don't you move to a suburb where there are lots of roads and unlimited free parking and leave a walkable and bikeable city to the rest of us who aren't lazy slobs like you.

Please don't do that. We don't want more car-centric people here. There are already too many.

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This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.

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The point is DC is already way more densely populated than people realize.

You all are going to have to make up your minds about whether DC is or is not already densely populated.

If it's already densely populated, then there's no room for cars, and transit, walking, biking, and scooting need to be the priority transportation modes. In other words, the Bicycle Lobby is right: ban cars. (Yes, the Bicycle Lobby is a real organization. You can even buy a T-shirt! https://cottonbureau.com/products/the-all-powerful-bicycle-lobby#/1933563/tee-men-standard-tee-vintage-black-tri-blend-s )

If it isn't already densely populated, then there's room for cars, but you're going to have to ditch the argument that more density is inappropriate because DC is already densely populated.

Uh, what? This makes no sense. DC is obviously already very densely populated. Not sure what that has to do with cars. Perhaps you haven't noticed but we have bike lanes everywhere, even though barely anyone rides bikes here. The number of bicyclists in DC is pathetically small.

OK, DC is already very densely populated. That means there's no room for cars. As you may have noticed, cars require a lot of space. It's time to reallocate that space for use by DC's dense population. For example, turn all of the parking lots into parks.

I'd start by getting rid of the bike lanes, since hardly anyone actually uses them. People actually use their cars.

I think Covid-19 is causing you to hallucinate. DC hardly has any bike lanes but the ones DC has are in fact well used and are used almost exclusively by DC residents.

If you are so into driving why don't you move to a suburb where there are lots of roads and unlimited free parking and leave a walkable and bikeable city to the rest of us who aren't lazy slobs like you.

Ha. You should learn to write and argue better. You sound like a bratty 13-year old.

Also, here's an experiment: Go outside. Go for a walk or ride your bike or go for a drive. Count how many people on bicycles you see in one minute, or five minutes, if you prefer. It will be roughly the same number as the number of three-headed aliens on roller skates that you see during that time.

Yup, no one ever rides a bike in D.C., that’s why sales at City Bikes have more than quadrupled during quarantine. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/what-do-bikes-and-toilet-paper-have-in-common-both-are-flying-out-of-stores-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic/2020/05/14/c58d44f6-9554-11ea-82b4-c8db161ff6e5_story.html

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The point is DC is already way more densely populated than people realize.

You all are going to have to make up your minds about whether DC is or is not already densely populated.

If it's already densely populated, then there's no room for cars, and transit, walking, biking, and scooting need to be the priority transportation modes. In other words, the Bicycle Lobby is right: ban cars. (Yes, the Bicycle Lobby is a real organization. You can even buy a T-shirt! https://cottonbureau.com/products/the-all-powerful-bicycle-lobby#/1933563/tee-men-standard-tee-vintage-black-tri-blend-s )

If it isn't already densely populated, then there's room for cars, but you're going to have to ditch the argument that more density is inappropriate because DC is already densely populated.

Uh, what? This makes no sense. DC is obviously already very densely populated. Not sure what that has to do with cars. Perhaps you haven't noticed but we have bike lanes everywhere, even though barely anyone rides bikes here. The number of bicyclists in DC is pathetically small.

We love bike lanes. But it’s a lie that residents of new developments are not car-centric. At Cathedral Commons, a large project built about 10 years ago in Northwest, most of the residents seem to have cars. The other annoying thing is that a lot of the residents seem to flout the law by not registering their vehicles in DC. Not exactly carless Urbanists. More like careless ones.

OK, DC is already very densely populated. That means there's no room for cars. As you may have noticed, cars require a lot of space. It's time to reallocate that space for use by DC's dense population. For example, turn all of the parking lots into parks.

I'd start by getting rid of the bike lanes, since hardly anyone actually uses them. People actually use their cars.

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We love bike lanes. But it’s a lie that residents of new developments are not car-centric. At Cathedral Commons, a large project built about 10 years ago in Northwest, most of the residents seem to have cars. The other annoying thing is that a lot of the residents seem to flout the law by not registering their vehicles in DC. Not exactly carless Urbanists. More like careless ones.

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Anonymous wrote:We love bike lanes. But it’s a lie that residents of new developments are not car-centric. At Cathedral Commons, a large project built about 10 years ago in Northwest, most of the residents seem to have cars. The other annoying thing is that a lot of the residents seem to flout the law by not registering their vehicles in DC. Not exactly carless Urbanists. More like careless ones.

Ah angry McLean Gardens lady surfaces - no doubt you've done a formal survey of all the residents?

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Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.

I’m as anti-NIMBY as anyone, but an additional reason new businesses are opening EOTP faster than WOTP is that rents are lower, and the reason prices are appreciating faster is that prices started lower but are being driven up by gentrification. Houses WOTP are already expensive.

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Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.

Yes, you may keep your hippy neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have sort of goal to be the densest city in the mid Atlantic? Good, we are not the densest city. Now, lets not try and get more dense.

Could y'all make up your minds, please? Is more housing in DC bad because DC is already a dense city, or is more housing in DC bad because DC is not a dense city and shouldn't be one?

It's the Bros and Bras that don't get it. Too dense or not dense enough. Right now it's pretty darn nice. Let's not make it MORE dense.

OK, I'll put you in the Neighbors Against More Neighbors column.

The problem is the sliding 'Density' scale. The Density people are never happy. First it was ADU's (they made sense and they would increase density) but then the ADU's were not enough, so the goal posts were moved. Now we are at high rises on major transportation corridors that the Density crowd cannot imagine how lining a street with 14 story buildings on a street that currently has three story buildings will change the 'look'.

So after we have transportation corridors lined with tall buildings, the new Comp Plan also gives the Density people the right to build tall building off of the corridor so long as the tall densely populated building is within a quarter mile of a bus stop or a half mile of a metro station. It does not take any imagination to see where this expansion is going and if you can't see that, you certainly have no business city planning.

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Anonymous wrote:We love bike lanes. But it’s a lie that residents of new developments are not car-centric. At Cathedral Commons, a large project built about 10 years ago in Northwest, most of the residents seem to have cars. The other annoying thing is that a lot of the residents seem to flout the law by not registering their vehicles in DC. Not exactly carless Urbanists. More like careless ones.

Ah angry McLean Gardens lady surfaces - no doubt you've done a formal survey of all the residents?

The new Urbanists pretend to care about urban areas, and the Density Bros cite increasing tax revenues as a reason to foist more density in lower-scale neighborhoods. Yet when it comes to actually paying taxes and fees to the District, like registering one’s vehicle (Wait!! Density Bros actually drive?!), it seems that a number of the Bros and Urbanists are scofflaws.

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Anonymous wrote:We love bike lanes. But it’s a lie that residents of new developments are not car-centric. At Cathedral Commons, a large project built about 10 years ago in Northwest, most of the residents seem to have cars. The other annoying thing is that a lot of the residents seem to flout the law by not registering their vehicles in DC. Not exactly carless Urbanists. More like careless ones.

Ah angry McLean Gardens lady surfaces - no doubt you've done a formal survey of all the residents?

The new Urbanists pretend to care about urban areas, and the Density Bros cite increasing tax revenues as a reason to foist more density in lower-scale neighborhoods. Yet when it comes to actually paying taxes and fees to the District, like registering one’s vehicle (Wait!! Density Bros actually drive?!), it seems that a number of the Bros and Urbanists are scofflaws.

Did you forget to take your Hydroxychloroquine today? Maybe you need to increase the dosage?

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Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.

They are terrible. Don’t move there for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.

They are terrible. Don’t move there for sure.

Yup. You can keep your Urbanists vibrant density in U Street and the Navy Yard. We like our village neighborhoods in the city just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.

They are terrible. Don’t move there for sure.

Yup. You can keep your Urbanists vibrant density in U Street and the Navy Yard. We like our village neighborhoods in the city just fine.

every restaurant on Wisconsin Ave is jammed in non-covid times. don't know why we need "more density" to support this business. Everything seems nicely balanced.

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Anonymous wrote:This poster is like a walking advertisement for why I don't want to live WOTP. NIMBYs always seem so miserable and insecure. I bet they make terrible neighbors. No wonder that their neighborhoods are losing businesses to hipper areas EOTP, and that those hipper neighborhoods are appreciating more quickly.

They are terrible. Don’t move there for sure.

Yup. You can keep your Urbanists vibrant density in U Street and the Navy Yard. We like our village neighborhoods in the city just fine.

every restaurant on Wisconsin Ave is jammed in non-covid times. don't know why we need "more density" to support this business. Everything seems nicely balanced.

The mayor and the Density Bros say that DC needs to double down on density to recover from coronavirus.