FCPS Boundary Review - New Maps

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

They aren't getting rid of AAP in middle school. They could have AAP at every middle school.

But why? Middle School Honors is the same thing as AAP. Literally the exact same curriculum. Why should AAP kids get their own special classes when they are learning the EXACT same thing?

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

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Anonymous wrote:With all this talk of Lewis and WS again, does someone know something new thats being proposed or is this all just new speculation and ongoing debate of some people wanting to move WS kids to Lewis for equity reasons. Otherwise Tru's maps dont mention any of this. And this is just getting people spun up all over again.

I think it is what you suggest, except that Reid, Anderson and thru all said there were errors with the maps for the WSHS pyramid, specifically the ones showing Hunt Valley getting rezoned into a split feeder to South County, and that the real maps released this fall will be different from the ones released last spring.

That could mean a lot of things, from HV staying at WSHS and moves to Lewis coming from the Daventry end of WSHS, to a few HV neighborhoods at the end of Gambrill moved entirely to a new elementary school in the SoCo pyramid, with most of Hunt Valley including the closest part of Gambril staying at HV and WSHS, to all of Hunt Valley getting moved to another pyramid, possibly Lewis, to the Gambril neighborhoods getting moved to Lewis, not South County.

FCPS and Thru publicly stated that the maps showing HV turning into a split feeder between SoCo and WSHS were an error and that the real plan for them is very different.

When you end with that kind of statement from FCPS, the speculation is going to be fairly broad.

It's been an incredibly inefficient, divisive process, and Reid gets an "F" for her oversight of Thru Consulting and execution to date of the SB's policy. And Rachna Sizemore-Heizer should get a "D-" for her role in pushing through a revised policy that bears so little resemblance to what FCPS families actually want.

DP, but that should read "...Sizemore-Heizer and Sandy Anderson..."

Sizemore-Heizer headed the Governance Committee when the Policy 8130 revisions were rushed through with limited public input.

Anderson may have supported it and is also culpable but Sizemore-Heizer and Frisch bear the greatest responsibility among the SB members for this debacle of a boundary review.

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

FCPS already blessed West Springfield with a very expensive renovation and a major expansion. If after all that it’s still overcrowded then it’s probably time to redistrict. 60 transfers into WSHS are not going to tip the decision that heavily one way or the other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

Fewer than 10 students transfer from Lewis to WSHS. Majority of WSHS transfers come from South County and Lake Braddock. Most Lewis transfers are to Edison, South County, and Lake Braddock.

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

Fewer than 10 students transfer from Lewis to WSHS. Majority of WSHS transfers come from South County and Lake Braddock. Most Lewis transfers are to Edison, South County, and Lake Braddock.

Yes, and those students should be sent back too.

However, the person I responded to was specifically talking about Lewis, so I only responded to their comments on Lewis transfers.

[Anonymous]

So September 3 is next BRAC meeting will we get maps then?

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

Fewer than 10 students transfer from Lewis to WSHS. Majority of WSHS transfers come from South County and Lake Braddock. Most Lewis transfers are to Edison, South County, and Lake Braddock.

Yes, and those students should be sent back too.

However, the person I responded to was specifically talking about Lewis, so I only responded to their comments on Lewis transfers.

Some of these kids could be kids who moved as rising seniors and availed of the pupil placement option for kids to finish out their high school years at the same HS they'd been attending.

The WSHS poster(s) who keeps coming up with these draconian ideas to kick kids already there out or to foreclose Lewis kids from transferring out for valid reasons is dissipating any empathy for the WSHS community.

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

Fewer than 10 students transfer from Lewis to WSHS. Majority of WSHS transfers come from South County and Lake Braddock. Most Lewis transfers are to Edison, South County, and Lake Braddock.

Yes, and those students should be sent back too.

However, the person I responded to was specifically talking about Lewis, so I only responded to their comments on Lewis transfers.

Some of these kids could be kids who moved as rising seniors and availed of the pupil placement option for kids to finish out their high school years at the same HS they'd been attending.

The WSHS poster(s) who keeps coming up with these draconian ideas to kick kids already there out or to foreclose Lewis kids from transferring out for valid reasons is dissipating any empathy for the WSHS community.

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there. I think they're making a good point about why anyone is even talking about moving existing students out of WSHS while so many out of boundary students are allowed in. They didn't even bring up all the residency fraud students.

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

Fewer than 10 students transfer from Lewis to WSHS. Majority of WSHS transfers come from South County and Lake Braddock. Most Lewis transfers are to Edison, South County, and Lake Braddock.

Yes, and those students should be sent back too.

However, the person I responded to was specifically talking about Lewis, so I only responded to their comments on Lewis transfers.

Some of these kids could be kids who moved as rising seniors and availed of the pupil placement option for kids to finish out their high school years at the same HS they'd been attending.

The WSHS poster(s) who keeps coming up with these draconian ideas to kick kids already there out or to foreclose Lewis kids from transferring out for valid reasons is dissipating any empathy for the WSHS community.

If FCPS is going to rezone people who purchased homes in bounds for WSHS or any other in bound school, and the school is getting rezoned for being overcrowded, AND the school is closed to transfers and has been closed to transfers since every current students was in early elementary school or preschool, then of course the logical place to start moving students out of the school is by moving out the students from other schools who either transferred into WSHS using legit means of transfer that are only supposed to be good for 1 school year per FCPS own policy on transfers, and especially any student who is using false addresses to attend the school, such as moving out of bounds to a new home in middle school, but never updating the address with FCPS so they can continue to attend the school.

What is "draconian" about enforcing FCPS own policies on transfers, by not allowing any transfers into a school that is closed to transfers, sending the 60 transfers back to their own zoned schools at the end of this school year since they were not supposed to transfer into WSHS anyway based on FCPS established policy on transfers, requiring any transfers into a school to reapply yearly and actially enroll in the classes that were used to obtain the transfer as required by FCPS own policy, and removing any non zoned students by a residency check, to get an accurate and fair count of student numbers prior to rezoning a single student legitimately zoned for the overcrowded school?

The only people who would find enforcing established FCPS policy as "dtaconian" is someone who is likely lying about where they live to attend a school they are not zoned for.

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

They aren't getting rid of AAP in middle school. They could have AAP at every middle school.

But why? Middle School Honors is the same thing as AAP. Literally the exact same curriculum. Why should AAP kids get their own special classes when they are learning the EXACT same thing?

Except that it is not. Parents have reported differences in Honors and AAP at many MS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

Fewer than 10 students transfer from Lewis to WSHS. Majority of WSHS transfers come from South County and Lake Braddock. Most Lewis transfers are to Edison, South County, and Lake Braddock.

There are approximately 60 students who transfer into WSHS using legitimate, recognized channels

If FCPS had enforced their policy on schools being closed to transfers, then WSHS would have had 2690 students last year instead of 2750 students.

If FCPS had enforced their policy on transfers, then WSHS would only need 1 trailer, if that. The trailers that are being used by WSHS hold 2 classrooms of roughly 25 students per classroom. That is 50-60 students accomodated per trailer, nearly the exact number of student transfers into WSHS last year.

If FCPS enforced their policy on schools being closed to transfers, ALL of Rolling Valley could have attended WSHS instead of being a split feeder, and the school enrollment would be equal or less than it is currently with roughly 60 transfers of students from other high schools.

If FCPS enforced its policy on schools being closed to transfers, then the Sangster neighborhood and the Hunt Valley neighborhood down Gambril Rd could stay at WSHS and the enrollment would decrease next year.

If a school is closed to transfers, then the only transfers that should be allowed at that school are outbound transfers. The transfers into the school should not double over the course of 3 years, as it did at WSHS according yo FCPS own transfer dashboard records.

All out of bound students need to be removed before any in bound student is rezoned at any overcapacity school, not just WSHS but all of the overcapacity schools.

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

FCPS already blessed West Springfield with a very expensive renovation and a major expansion. If after all that it’s still overcrowded then it’s probably time to redistrict. 60 transfers into WSHS are not going to tip the decision that heavily one way or the other.

60 transfers into West Springfield is the capacity of one of those new trailers, plus a few extra students.

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Anonymous wrote:No transfer until 10th grade when AP classes start.

No more AAP in middle.

If you're stuck at an IB school, and you know you'll want to take AP courses, you should be allowed to transfer starting in 9th grade.

What you propose is punitive to a lot of kids.

Not every damn thing in the county has to be reverse-engineered to keep WS kids from ever getting moved to Lewis.

So presumably you'd then support the newly transferred WS kids immediately transferring back out to continue their AP classes somewhere else?

I'd rather we have AP county-wide than do what you're proposing, which would force kids to attend an IB school for their freshman year even if they want to take AP courses.

If we are going to continue to have AP and IB schools, and WS kids are moved to an IB school, they should be allowed to transfer to an AP school with capacity if they plan to take AP courses. So it might be Lake Braddock or South County rather than West Springfield, but they could attend those schools for all four years of HS.

IB to AP transfers are supposed to reapply for the transfer every year.

They are not guaranteed 4 years at the AP school, per FCPS policy.

If they drop out of AP classes, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

If the AP school is closed to transfers, they are not supposed to be allowed to stay at the AP school.

So a Lewis zoned freshman should not be allowed to transfer into WSHS because WSHS has been closed to transfers for a decade or more even though FCPS allowed nearly 60 students to transfer into WSHS last year.

They might be able to transfer into SoCo or LB as a 9th grader, but if either of those schools close to transfers, or if the Lewis student doesn't continue taking AP classes, they are supposed to transfer either to a different AP high school or back to their base school if they are no longer taking AP classes.

If a single student currently attending WSHS has transferred into WSHS using AP, they need to be sent back because the school was closed to incoming transfers the entire time any current students were attending high school.

The nearly 60 transfers into WSHS is a huge issue, especially since the school is scheduled to be rezoned.

Start first with those out of boundary students before rezoning a single WSHS zoned student.

Fewer than 10 students transfer from Lewis to WSHS. Majority of WSHS transfers come from South County and Lake Braddock. Most Lewis transfers are to Edison, South County, and Lake Braddock.

There are approximately 60 students who transfer into WSHS using legitimate, recognized channels

If FCPS had enforced their policy on schools being closed to transfers, then WSHS would have had 2690 students last year instead of 2750 students.

If FCPS had enforced their policy on transfers, then WSHS would only need 1 trailer, if that. The trailers that are being used by WSHS hold 2 classrooms of roughly 25 students per classroom. That is 50-60 students accomodated per trailer, nearly the exact number of student transfers into WSHS last year.

If FCPS enforced their policy on schools being closed to transfers, ALL of Rolling Valley could have attended WSHS instead of being a split feeder, and the school enrollment would be equal or less than it is currently with roughly 60 transfers of students from other high schools.

If FCPS enforced its policy on schools being closed to transfers, then the Sangster neighborhood and the Hunt Valley neighborhood down Gambril Rd could stay at WSHS and the enrollment would decrease next year.

If a school is closed to transfers, then the only transfers that should be allowed at that school are outbound transfers. The transfers into the school should not double over the course of 3 years, as it did at WSHS according yo FCPS own transfer dashboard records.

All out of bound students need to be removed before any in bound student is rezoned at any overcapacity school, not just WSHS but all of the overcapacity schools.

West Springfield has a capacity of 2493, so it's significantly overcrowded with either 2690 students or 2750 students. Last year it had almost 2800 students.

The 58 students transferring in last year, only 39 of whom were transferring pursuant to the student transfer regulations, just don't move the needle that much.

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For a school "Closed" to transfers for years, 60 transfers does seem high. I can see them letting some teachers transfer in their students, but that would likely only be a handful of students. Is it clear that these transfer students are using the official transfer policy? Could it be a special education program that is not part of the normal transfer policy?

Another thought - it is possible between the 2005 boundary changes and moving Daventry into WS (2015) that they shrunk the Lee/Lewis boundaries TOO much. Remember, while the Lewis boundaries look simple and as large as West Springfield's, there is a huge no-man zone (no homes) carve out. The Ft. Belvoir north property with NGA, 95, Mixing Bowl, Fullerton industrial center, other industrial use on the southern end of Backlick, the car dealerships and data center on Loisdale, and GSA warehouse property all together take a big chunk out of that boundary. So much so that they pretty much make Saratoga an island.

The first step overall should still be to go back to AP at all FCPS high schools. The county is not obligated to offer two advanced programs at the high school level. The second step, which should be done in tandem with the first, is to standardize language offerings in the county. Less common languages (say Russian) should be available virtually. If these two things are not done, then any boundary changes will be moot because of the tsunami of transfers that will happen.

A couple of comments seemed to suggest that they should keep the differences in curriculum so that students can transfer. That is no way to run a school system and punishes those remaining at the school (many of whom can't transfer).

FCPS has become quite dysfunctional in the last 20-25 years.