Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving Wayside to Wootton and not moving Ritchie Park to Wootton? Fallsgrove, Orchard Ridge, Horizon Hill, and Potomac Woods are all walkable to the high school.

Because RPES provides the upper SES to RM, particularly if FG moves out.

If you look at the maps, it shows RPES is NOT a walk zone, but FG is. Yes, I know HH is actually walkable to Wootton (I live here, and I know HH used to be a walkable neighborhood to Wootton) but MCPS hasn't identified HH as such, but they did identify FG as a walk zone to Crown.

Because they didn't draw new walk zones for the existing schools, they just used what their current walk zones are.

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Wayside petitioners are out in force walking neighborhoods. Go Wayside!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving Wayside to Wootton and not moving Ritchie Park to Wootton? Fallsgrove, Orchard Ridge, Horizon Hill, and Potomac Woods are all walkable to the high school.

Because RPES provides the upper SES to RM, particularly if FG moves out.

If you look at the maps, it shows RPES is NOT a walk zone, but FG is. Yes, I know HH is actually walkable to Wootton (I live here, and I know HH used to be a walkable neighborhood to Wootton) but MCPS hasn't identified HH as such, but they did identify FG as a walk zone to Crown.

They only identified FG as a walk zone for crown because they chose Crowb as one of the articulation options for FG. If none of the options sent FG to Crown, they wouldn’t have labeled as a walk zone.

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Anonymous wrote:Wayside petitioners are out in force walking neighborhoods. Go Wayside!!

Wayside has nothing to complain about.

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Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

+1 I don't know about major, but yes, Wootton boundary will change.

The thing is, Wootton is not overcrowded and is not projected to be overcrowded in the future. There was no reason to include Wootton in the Crown study in the first place, other than to target them for FARMS and DEI goals. Churchill could have been included in the other boundary study for Woodward to address their supposed overcrowding problem and Wootton left out of both studies. A lot of the Asian community in the Wootton district (not including me since I'm not Asian, but many in my neighborhood are) feel like the Board of Education is targeting them unfairly, and I can't really say I blame them. I agree with them that it's BS that Wootton was included in any of the boundary studies to begin with. The Board could accomplish all their goals without changing anything about the Wootton cluster, so it makes sense for the Wootton community to push back as much as possible on any boundary changes for Wootton. Will it work, maybe not, but they have to try, and being fatalistic about the result just guarantees their voices won't be heard.

Wootton is not overcrowded because their community always yells loudest to keep their school from becoming overcrowded and then other schools get overcrowded instead: see Fallsgrove being zoned for RM due to concerns about overcrowding even though its walking distance to Wootton and all thr Fallsgrove kids get busses to RM instead. Wootton is included because all neighboring clusters need to be included. Wootton continues to be undercapacity due to this exclusionary mindset and the fact that BoE has historically given in to their loud voices.

This could not be further from the truth. Ritchie park ES is zoned for RM to balance RM diversity. One part is actually split off Wootton to achieve this agenda.

Okay but again why is Fallsgrove zoned for Ritchie Park and not Lakewood? Fallsgrove kids could also walk to Lakewood. It is 100% about overcrowding concerns at Wootton as was mentioned by Mayor Krasnow at the City of Rockville council meeting in 2000 where they recommended placing Fallsgrove at RM due to overcrowding concerns at Wootton. That is the concern written in the meeting minites which you can read yourself:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.rockvillemd.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Minutes/2868%3FMOBILE%3DON&ved=2ahUKEwj7r9y-1OGNAxVgRDABHVDCGPoQFnoECCcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw12Ih0sbKw42iu9zQV_4MJ8

It’s 2025

25 years from 2000

[Anonymous]

I can see MCPS budget cuts and county school vouchers on the table in four years. Why? I noticed some of the rougher gang / drug ES are included into Crown. MCPS, as usual, will do the Marie Antoinette on complaints from downtown crown and Rio. At that point the Council and MCPS will have zero credibility with taxpayers and voters.

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Anonymous wrote:I can see MCPS budget cuts and county school vouchers on the table in four years. Why? I noticed some of the rougher gang / drug ES are included into Crown. MCPS, as usual, will do the Marie Antoinette on complaints from downtown crown and Rio. At that point the Council and MCPS will have zero credibility with taxpayers and voters.

Crown is a horrible site for new high school. Just imagine high school kids skip school and hang out and Rio shopping area. It’s a mistake to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:For those concerned about or otherwise interested in the various changes being proposed to the Wootton cluster, I thought it would be helpful to have the various Change petitions compiled in one place. I've put together a list of the ones I've seen, but please add any I've missed. They seem to share the general theme of minimizing changes to Wootton, though I think the different petitions raise pretty different concerns and issues.

1) Keep Wootton together: https://www.change.org/p/urge-to-preserve-the-integrity-of-wootton-high-school-in-the-crown-boundary-process

2) Don't move Wayside ES to Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/wayside-hoover-churchill-community-on-boundary-study-strong-opposition-to-reassignment

3) Don't move a small Lakewood ES neighborhood away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/don-t-divide-lakewood-keep-all-our-community-together-in-wootton

4) Don't move Dufief ES away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/say-no-to-harmful-boundary-changes-keep-dufief-with-frost-and-wootton

There are a stone mill one and a new travillah one as well

https://chng.it/6YGjCQhp

https://chng.it/Gz4qsrPS9K

Thanks! Updated list below. To the Wayside parents who don't want to move - supporting the families who want to stay at Wootton could help your cause. And similarly for the Wootton parents who want to stay at Wootton - supporting the Wayside families that don't want to move to Wootton could help your cause.

1) Keep Wootton together: https://www.change.org/p/urge-to-preserve-the-integrity-of-wootton-high-school-in-the-crown-boundary-process

2) Don't move Wayside ES to Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/wayside-hoover-churchill-community-on-boundary-study-strong-opposition-to-reassignment

3) Don't move a small Lakewood ES neighborhood away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/don-t-divide-lakewood-keep-all-our-community-together-in-wootton

4) Don't move Dufief ES away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/say-no-to-harmful-boundary-changes-keep-dufief-with-frost-and-wootton

5) Don't move Stone Mill ES away from Wootton: https://chng.it/6YGjCQhp

6) Don't move Travilah ES away from Wootton: https://chng.it/Gz4qsrPS9K

Some of these petitions made into out office in NIH. It's awkward when co workers are asking to sign them. i don't live in these cluster and have no idea about anything. BOE should thow away all these petions. It's pretty much noise.

You're lying. If you "don't live in these cluster and have no idea about anything", why are you on this post? Are you just randomly reading everything on DCUMS? Or (more likely) are you one of the MCPS employees responsible for boundary changes trying to throw shade on parent petitions?

I live in DCC. I know about boundary changes for two high schools becasue they are happening at same time, but I have very little idea about Crown related boundary changes.

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Anonymous wrote:Wayside petitioners are out in force walking neighborhoods. Go Wayside!!

And in offices, Go Wayside!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wayside petitioners are out in force walking neighborhoods. Go Wayside!!

Moving from Churchill to Wootton, Why so much complain for so little difference between schools?

This Wayside petition simply shows that's wrong right now. Boundary changes in Churchill and Whitman is absolutely neessary.

Entire Wayside should be transferred to Wootton as suggested in 4 options. That way so many families comapining about split articulation can't complain.

It's not like Wayside is getting transferred to 30-40% FARMS like some ES are facing in WJ cluster. In entire boudary changes in both high school, I feel putting entire Wayside in Wootton is the most logical steps without split articulations. Most other decisions have too much negative. MCPS has go this one right here.

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Anonymous wrote:I can see MCPS budget cuts and county school vouchers on the table in four years. Why? I noticed some of[google] the rougher gang / drug ES are included into Crown. [b]MCPS, as usual, will do the Marie Antoinette on complaints from downtown crown and Rio. At that point the Council and MCPS will have zero credibility with taxpayers and voters.

Which ones are those gang/drug ES?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can see MCPS budget cuts and county school vouchers on the table in four years. Why? I noticed some of the rougher gang / drug ES are included into Crown. MCPS, as usual, will do the Marie Antoinette on complaints from downtown crown and Rio. At that point the Council and MCPS will have zero credibility with taxpayers and voters.

Crown is a horrible site for new high school. Just imagine high school kids skip school and hang out and Rio shopping area. It’s a mistake to begin with.

What about BCC and RM? They are both by big downtown shopping areas.

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Anonymous wrote:I can see MCPS budget cuts and county school vouchers on the table in four years. Why? I noticed some of the rougher gang / drug ES are included into Crown. MCPS, as usual, will do the Marie Antoinette on complaints from downtown crown and Rio. At that point the Council and MCPS will have zero credibility with taxpayers and voters.

Crown is a horrible site for new high school. Just imagine high school kids skip school and hang out and Rio shopping area. It’s a mistake to begin with.

What about BCC and RM? They are both by big downtown shopping areas.

IDK about Crown but both BCC and RM are too large to have the lunch period the same for everyone. Thankfully, the kids can walk to neighboring businesses for lunch. I know of at least one restaurant that has/had an RM lunch special for the HS kids. My DC loved it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can see MCPS budget cuts and county school vouchers on the table in four years. Why? I noticed some of the rougher gang / drug ES are included into Crown. MCPS, as usual, will do the Marie Antoinette on complaints from downtown crown and Rio. At that point the Council and MCPS will have zero credibility with taxpayers and voters.

You can’t be serious with this post. Gangs in ES.😆

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Anonymous wrote:I can see MCPS budget cuts and county school vouchers on the table in four years. Why? I noticed some of the rougher gang / drug ES are included into Crown. MCPS, as usual, will do the Marie Antoinette on complaints from downtown crown and Rio. At that point the Council and MCPS will have zero credibility with taxpayers and voters.

Crown is a horrible site for new high school. Just imagine high school kids skip school and hang out and Rio shopping area. It’s a mistake to begin with.

What about BCC and RM? They are both by big downtown shopping areas.

IDK about Crown but both BCC and RM are too large to have the lunch period the same for everyone. Thankfully, the kids can walk to neighboring businesses for lunch. I know of at least one restaurant that has/had an RM lunch special for the HS kids. My DC loved it.

Newsflash, this is most of the HS’s, including the ones without open lunch.