ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To all the September - December born players out there from MLS Next to NCSL and MSI Rec this weekend giving your best playing on age or even playing up giving it your all without excuses.

Kudos!

Kind of rude to leave out players born between Jan-Aug.

They trapped too?

Most trapped players didn't have a team to play on this weekend. So there's that genius.

Hence the reason the PP sent the shout out to Sep-Dec kids playing in MLS Next

This is not correct. Most trapped kids have teams. It is ~18% of ECNL trapped kids that are affected, their senior year. And of those 18%, many DO have teams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To all the September - December born players out there from MLS Next to NCSL and MSI Rec this weekend giving your best playing on age or even playing up giving it your all without excuses.

Kudos!

Kind of rude to leave out players born between Jan-Aug.

They trapped too?

Most trapped players didn't have a team to play on this weekend. So there's that genius.

Hence the reason the PP sent the shout out to Sep-Dec kids playing in MLS Next

This is not correct. Most trapped kids have teams. It is ~18% of ECNL trapped kids that are affected, their senior year. And of those 18%, many DO have teams.

Then what's this whole hoopla about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Should be settled by thanksgiving.

November 1, 2024 – Bylaw amendment proposal deadline for 2025 National Council Meeting

November 22, 2024 – Quarterly Board of Directors Meeting

The age cutoff for USCS is not a bylaw issue. If you’re going to blow smoke, and spend the time to research the meeting dates in order to blow the smoke, at least know what the heck you’re talking about.

Was just pointing out what’s on the agenda as far meetings for US soccer in November. Settled down miss lady.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To all the September - December born players out there from MLS Next to NCSL and MSI Rec this weekend giving your best playing on age or even playing up giving it your all without excuses.

Kudos!

Kind of rude to leave out players born between Jan-Aug.

They trapped too?

Most trapped players didn't have a team to play on this weekend. So there's that genius.

Hence the reason the PP sent the shout out to Sep-Dec kids playing in MLS Next

This is not correct. Most trapped kids have teams. It is ~18% of ECNL trapped kids that are affected, their senior year. And of those 18%, many DO have teams.

For many younger trapped kids they are have teams but their teams didn't have fall games or even practices. ECNL does allow 2 kids to play do a year but switching teams is not ideal. If they increased this to 3 players allowed to play down, and not just in the 2 trapped years but all 6 ECNL years (similar but different to MLS Next's biobanding) it would be a decent band aid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To all the September - December born players out there from MLS Next to NCSL and MSI Rec this weekend giving your best playing on age or even playing up giving it your all without excuses.

Kudos!

Kind of rude to leave out players born between Jan-Aug.

They trapped too?

Most trapped players didn't have a team to play on this weekend. So there's that genius.

Hence the reason the PP sent the shout out to Sep-Dec kids playing in MLS Next

This is not correct. Most trapped kids have teams. It is ~18% of ECNL trapped kids that are affected, their senior year. And of those 18%, many DO have teams.

For many younger trapped kids they are have teams but their teams didn't have fall games or even practices. ECNL does allow 2 kids to play do a year but switching teams is not ideal. If they increased this to 3 players allowed to play down, and not just in the 2 trapped years but all 6 ECNL years (similar but different to MLS Next's biobanding) it would be a decent band aid.

So my December trapped DS who is in the 90th percentile for his birth year in height and weight should play down a year?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To all the September - December born players out there from MLS Next to NCSL and MSI Rec this weekend giving your best playing on age or even playing up giving it your all without excuses.

Kudos!

Kind of rude to leave out players born between Jan-Aug.

They trapped too?

Most trapped players didn't have a team to play on this weekend. So there's that genius.

Hence the reason the PP sent the shout out to Sep-Dec kids playing in MLS Next

This is not correct. Most trapped kids have teams. It is ~18% of ECNL trapped kids that are affected, their senior year. And of those 18%, many DO have teams.

For many younger trapped kids they are have teams but their teams didn't have fall games or even practices. ECNL does allow 2 kids to play do a year but switching teams is not ideal. If they increased this to 3 players allowed to play down, and not just in the 2 trapped years but all 6 ECNL years (similar but different to MLS Next's biobanding) it would be a decent band aid.

So my December trapped DS who is in the 90th percentile for his birth year in height and weight should play down a year?

While DCUM seems like a good place for advice on such questions, you should evaluate your own situation and speak with your club for input.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To all the September - December born players out there from MLS Next to NCSL and MSI Rec this weekend giving your best playing on age or even playing up giving it your all without excuses.

Kudos!

Kind of rude to leave out players born between Jan-Aug.

They trapped too?

Most trapped players didn't have a team to play on this weekend. So there's that genius.

Hence the reason the PP sent the shout out to Sep-Dec kids playing in MLS Next

This is not correct. Most trapped kids have teams. It is ~18% of ECNL trapped kids that are affected, their senior year. And of those 18%, many DO have teams.

For many younger trapped kids they are have teams but their teams didn't have fall games or even practices. ECNL does allow 2 kids to play do a year but switching teams is not ideal. If they increased this to 3 players allowed to play down, and not just in the 2 trapped years but all 6 ECNL years (similar but different to MLS Next's biobanding) it would be a decent band aid.

That’s the 8th grade trap. But that’s different, that’s because their 9th grade teammates are playing HS in the Fall. That isn’t a “don’t have a team” issue, nor is it “my kid is missing her ECNL practices and games” issues.

[Anonymous]

ECNL should allow three players to play down, so it is on an even playing field to MLS Next.

Several San Diego Surf ECNL players (Late birthday) switched to MLS Next club because of biobanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL should allow three players to play down, so it is on an even playing field to MLS Next.

Several San Diego Surf ECNL players (Late birthday) switched to MLS Next club because of biobanding.

That's not how biobanding works.
It's not because you have a late birthday.

Its because your maturation is behind your calendar year peers.
You can be December and the biggest kid on the team. Not a late developer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL should allow three players to play down, so it is on an even playing field to MLS Next.

Several San Diego Surf ECNL players (Late birthday) switched to MLS Next club because of biobanding.

Apparently you've been mislead to believe all MLS Next teams have 3 biobanded players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL should allow three players to play down, so it is on an even playing field to MLS Next.

Several San Diego Surf ECNL players (Late birthday) switched to MLS Next club because of biobanding.

Cute.
But Bio-banding is about a late developer with good skills and potential getting the opportunity to keep training and playing with a high level team while catching up physically.

It has nothing to do with leveling playing fields for teams or leagues.
sigh

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL should allow three players to play down, so it is on an even playing field to MLS Next.

Several San Diego Surf ECNL players (Late birthday) switched to MLS Next club because of biobanding.

Cute.
But Bio-banding is about a late developer with good skills and potential getting the opportunity to keep training and playing with a high level team while catching up physically.

It has nothing to do with leveling playing fields for teams or leagues.
sigh

A friend's trapped kid was offered biobanding from a local MLS Next team when looking for a new team so of course yes, it can be a recruitment advantage for MLS Next. ECNL needs its own trick to try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL should allow three players to play down, so it is on an even playing field to MLS Next.

Several San Diego Surf ECNL players (Late birthday) switched to MLS Next club because of biobanding.

Cute.
But Bio-banding is about a late developer with good skills and potential getting the opportunity to keep training and playing with a high level team while catching up physically.

It has nothing to do with leveling playing fields for teams or leagues.
sigh

What something is about and how something is used will depend on the rules in place to prevent cheating. So do the current MLS Next late development rules use quantifiable metrics to prevent or even limit cheating? In looking up the rules I only found that a club needed approval from the league (not what evidence would need to be presented to make the case).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL should allow three players to play down, so it is on an even playing field to MLS Next.

Several San Diego Surf ECNL players (Late birthday) switched to MLS Next club because of biobanding.

Cute.
But Bio-banding is about a late developer with good skills and potential getting the opportunity to keep training and playing with a high level team while catching up physically.

It has nothing to do with leveling playing fields for teams or leagues.
sigh

A friend's trapped kid was offered biobanding from a local MLS Next team when looking for a new team so of course yes, it can be a recruitment advantage for MLS Next. ECNL needs its own trick to try to keep up.

Tricks and shortcuts and gimmicks isn't going to move ECNL boys to the same level of MLS Academies/MLS Next

How does what happened with your friend's kid change the definition of biobanding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL should allow three players to play down, so it is on an even playing field to MLS Next.

Several San Diego Surf ECNL players (Late birthday) switched to MLS Next club because of biobanding.

Cute.
But Bio-banding is about a late developer with good skills and potential getting the opportunity to keep training and playing with a high level team while catching up physically.

It has nothing to do with leveling playing fields for teams or leagues.
sigh

What something is about and how something is used will depend on the rules in place to prevent cheating. So do the current MLS Next late development rules use quantifiable metrics to prevent or even limit cheating? In looking up the rules I only found that a club needed approval from the league (not what evidence would need to be presented to make the case).

Well, you declaring your ignorance of the administrative process which has measurable requirements doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

If some clubs choose to cheat the process, it doesn’t change what it is.