Can we analyze jennifer lopez?

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Anonymous wrote:Attention is not why Ben resents her.

It’s because she’s not a critical darling. If her This is me.. love story movie or documentary was adored and given five star rave reviews, he’d stay with her.

Per his pattern before with Gigli, he runs at the first sign of a flop

This is so true. If this had been some quirky critical darling he'd show up for the press. This is a professional hammer to JLo and he moves to another mansion to get away from her and it. What? Maybe he's really in a fragile place. That is understandable, but then why does he go out solo for dinner in L.A. with all of the cameras on him? Why does he smile to the paps from his car and wave around an ID screen of Jennifer Affleck?

Ben is a sloppy version of being IN and being OUT of this relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:Attention is not why Ben resents her.

It’s because she’s not a critical darling. If her This is me.. love story movie or documentary was adored and given five star rave reviews, he’d stay with her.

Per his pattern before with Gigli, he runs at the first sign of a flop

This is so true. If this had been some quirky critical darling he'd show up for the press. This is a professional hammer to JLo and he moves to another mansion to get away from her and it. What? Maybe he's really in a fragile place. That is understandable, but then why does he go out solo for dinner in L.A. with all of the cameras on him? Why does he smile to the paps from his car and wave around an ID screen of Jennifer Affleck?

Ben is a sloppy version of being IN and being OUT of this relationship.

Because they haven't made any final decisions and are not ready to make an announcement yet. Is is both IN and OUT at the same time.

[Anonymous]

Like Hamilton, He will never be satisfied!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Attention is not why Ben resents her.

It’s because she’s not a critical darling. If her This is me.. love story movie or documentary was adored and given five star rave reviews, he’d stay with her.

Per his pattern before with Gigli, he runs at the first sign of a flop

This is so true. If this had been some quirky critical darling he'd show up for the press. This is a professional hammer to JLo and he moves to another mansion to get away from her and it. What? Maybe he's really in a fragile place. That is understandable, but then why does he go out solo for dinner in L.A. with all of the cameras on him? Why does he smile to the paps from his car and wave around an ID screen of Jennifer Affleck?

Ben is a sloppy version of being IN and being OUT of this relationship.

It’s sad that Jennifer considers him “the one that got away”. She never changed her last name before . On her Wikipedia page, she’s called Jennifer Affleck

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Anonymous wrote:I think JLo is a better actress than Jen Garner, who is pretty mediocre (also pretty, but mediocre). JLo has real magnetism onscreen, but has done a lot of terrible movies. But Out of Sight, her room com era (the Wedding Planner and Maid in Manhattan), and Hustlers all show her to her best effect. She's not like a method actress or anything, but she knows how to create on screen chemistry with a wide variety of leading men, and she has decent range (pulls off the softness of rom coms surprisingly well IMO).

I think one issue with JLo's career is that she doesn't love acting-- she loves music and dancing. Her "singing" career is her real passion but she doesn't have a good voice or any skill as a writer/musician/producer. She's a dancer. It's a shame because dancing is just not something you can make money doing, so if she wanted to dance but stay at the level she was at as an actress, she had to sing.

I think both Jens are mediocre actresses overall but each has had a few great parts. For Jen G it was 13 going on 30, Alias, and Juno.

I agree that they’re both mediocre. JLo might actually have more range, but Jen G had two iconic roles in Alias and 13 going on 30. JLo can’t seem to decide what kind of actress she wants to be. (She can’t seem to decide on what kind of career she wants overall, she just jumps into everything, singing, rom coms, crime dramas, modeling, documentaries, designing, not doing anything really well, instead of finding something where her passions and talents collide and focusing on that). Jen G had the good sense to know her skills and make some smart choices. She also seems far more content to step away from the limelight and just be a person, obviously, and that’s something JLo will never be capable of.

I think you assume she has more agency over her acting career than she actually does. Neither of these women gets to pick their roles very much. Especially if you want to stick with movies and won't go the Witherspoon/Aniston/Kidman route of creating the roles/career you want by producing TV and streaming. JLo took the roles she was offered. I don't know that she was dying to make a bunch of rom coms, but the industry decided that was a good way to market her and it worked so she made a few. As she aged out of that, I think it's been very hard to find roles that make sense for her as not only a middle aged woman but also a Latina woman. I am sure there were many roles over the years that she went after and lost to people like Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock, etc. She wanted to be up in their echelon but she was type cast in different ways and it didn't happen. I don't know that you can blame that on her -- I guarantee there were roles that she could have done great things with but she didn't get the opportunities. That's how the acting industry works, especially if your focus is on movies.

I think her music career enabled her to work and perform even though she wasn't necessarily getting the acting opportunities she wanted and that she believed were appropriate for her level. She branded herself as a multi-hyphenate and that worked fairly well -- she's made a lot of money and never really been totally out of the public eye. Women in entertainment really do have to hustle in a way men don't.

Jen G also was, I am certain, quite limited in her roles. She tried to make a pivot to action movies based on Alias, which would be great because there's so much money there, but her one feature (Elektra) was a total flop and after that she was never going to get another opportunity like that (unlike Ben who magically gets to be Batman despite the fact that Daredevil wasn't a huge hit years ago). She did resurrect Elektra for Deadpool but like a lot of her parts in the last 10 years, it's a small role. Sure, she'll say she was focusing on her kids and I believe her. But has also "branded" herself as someone who was focusing on her kid. And so most of the roles she's gotten in recent years are mom roles in lower budget family shows or TV. I'm sure she'd happily take more interesting or higher profile roles. She can't get them.

These women are at the mercy of the market in a way that Ben has never been.

Yea but Jen G pivoted. In terms of money, she makes a ton with all of her promotional stuff, the credit card ads, some skin scare stuff, just saw in a hair ad. And she built a really successful business with the whole organic farming snacks for kids thing. She found a way to keep her income up, keep working, and run a business that probably is really fulfilling.

I know what you mean in that she probably wants to make more important and fulfilling films, but if that’s what being at the mercy of the market means, I’ll take it. No one gets to do their dream job forever with no end. Most actors will never see the success that she has had and will never even get to make one film or show they are proud of… She has a few of those.

As for JLO, same general thing. She got to make a bunch of movies and music and perform. Yes, maybe now she doesn’t get to top roles and her stadium tours anymore. Boo hoo. she’s made plenty of money and she still can have a very lucrative career and stay busy. She just needs to accept that, it what it is, and get over herself a little.

I don’t think she’s capable of that, but she’d probably be a lot happier. I was in utter disbelief of the trailer of her documentary or whatever. Absolutely insane she put that out.

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Anonymous wrote:Attention is not why Ben resents her.

It’s because she’s not a critical darling. If her This is me.. love story movie or documentary was adored and given five star rave reviews, he’d stay with her.

Per his pattern before with Gigli, he runs at the first sign of a flop

This is so true. If this had been some quirky critical darling he'd show up for the press. This is a professional hammer to JLo and he moves to another mansion to get away from her and it. What? Maybe he's really in a fragile place. That is understandable, but then why does he go out solo for dinner in L.A. with all of the cameras on him? Why does he smile to the paps from his car and wave around an ID screen of Jennifer Affleck?

Ben is a sloppy version of being IN and being OUT of this relationship.

It’s sad that Jennifer considers him “the one that got away”. She never changed her last name before . On her Wikipedia page, she’s called Jennifer Affleck

I think it's sad she thinks so little of herself. Ben is not some great prize. He's humiliated her once before yet she and her mother clinged on for yeats

[Anonymous]

I imagine the people obsessed with JLo and Ben like Martha from Baby Reindeer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I imagine the people obsessed with JLo and Ben like Martha from Baby Reindeer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Attention is not why Ben resents her.

It’s because she’s not a critical darling. If her This is me.. love story movie or documentary was adored and given five star rave reviews, he’d stay with her.

Per his pattern before with Gigli, he runs at the first sign of a flop

This is so true. If this had been some quirky critical darling he'd show up for the press. This is a professional hammer to JLo and he moves to another mansion to get away from her and it. What? Maybe he's really in a fragile place. That is understandable, but then why does he go out solo for dinner in L.A. with all of the cameras on him? Why does he smile to the paps from his car and wave around an ID screen of Jennifer Affleck?

Ben is a sloppy version of being IN and being OUT of this relationship.

+1 It shows how shakey their foundation was. They would have still broken up regardless of how their movie/reception but he would stayed if the movie/doc was praised. Instead she's being mocked by her peers and the audience.

[Anonymous]

Can you guys imagine waiting 20 years for a guy that basically left you at the altar, then spend millions dragging your ex's only for that guy you put on a pedestal to leave you.....devastating. she's delusional but I know this hurting her to the core

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Anonymous wrote:Can you guys imagine waiting 20 years for a guy that basically left you at the altar, then spend millions dragging your ex's only for that guy you put on a pedestal to leave you.....devastating. she's delusional but I know this hurting her to the core

And not to mention public humiliation.

[Anonymous]

I feel bad for all the children who are involved in this hot mess. Thank goodness for Jennifer Gardner. She is the only sane parent involved.

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Anonymous wrote:Attention is not why Ben resents her.

It’s because she’s not a critical darling. If her This is me.. love story movie or documentary was adored and given five star rave reviews, he’d stay with her.

Per his pattern before with Gigli, he runs at the first sign of a flop

This is so true. If this had been some quirky critical darling he'd show up for the press. This is a professional hammer to JLo and he moves to another mansion to get away from her and it. What? Maybe he's really in a fragile place. That is understandable, but then why does he go out solo for dinner in L.A. with all of the cameras on him? Why does he smile to the paps from his car and wave around an ID screen of Jennifer Affleck?

Ben is a sloppy version of being IN and being OUT of this relationship.

It’s sad that Jennifer considers him “the one that got away”. She never changed her last name before . On her Wikipedia page, she’s called Jennifer Affleck

I think it's sad she thinks so little of herself. Ben is not some great prize. He's humiliated her once before yet she and her mother clinged on for yeats

I’m pretty sure she’s over Ben. One thing I really respect about her is that she was pretty humiliated after the divorce. It was her second one and it was so high profile with the cheating scandals and everything. But instead of her flaunting her very good looking CEO rich boyfriend, she’s doing what is best for her kids and keeping the relationship under wraps even though at this point they’ve been together for like six years now. she probably won’t marry him until her last kid is out of high school. whereas JLO flaunts every relationship and parades around.

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Anonymous wrote:Attention is not why Ben resents her.

It’s because she’s not a critical darling. If her This is me.. love story movie or documentary was adored and given five star rave reviews, he’d stay with her.

Per his pattern before with Gigli, he runs at the first sign of a flop

This is so true. If this had been some quirky critical darling he'd show up for the press. This is a professional hammer to JLo and he moves to another mansion to get away from her and it. What? Maybe he's really in a fragile place. That is understandable, but then why does he go out solo for dinner in L.A. with all of the cameras on him? Why does he smile to the paps from his car and wave around an ID screen of Jennifer Affleck?

Ben is a sloppy version of being IN and being OUT of this relationship.

It’s sad that Jennifer considers him “the one that got away”. She never changed her last name before . On her Wikipedia page, she’s called Jennifer Affleck

I think it's sad she thinks so little of herself. Ben is not some great prize. He's humiliated her once before yet she and her mother clinged on for yeats

I’m pretty sure she’s over Ben. One thing I really respect about her is that she was pretty humiliated after the divorce. It was her second one and it was so high profile with the cheating scandals and everything. But instead of her flaunting her very good looking CEO rich boyfriend, she’s doing what is best for her kids and keeping the relationship under wraps even though at this point they’ve been together for like six years now. she probably won’t marry him until her last kid is out of high school. whereas JLO flaunts every relationship and parades around.

Oops, I’m realizing now you met J Lo… not Jen G. Sorry I got the posts confused. Yeah definitely agree.

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Anonymous wrote:I think JLo is a better actress than Jen Garner, who is pretty mediocre (also pretty, but mediocre). JLo has real magnetism onscreen, but has done a lot of terrible movies. But Out of Sight, her room com era (the Wedding Planner and Maid in Manhattan), and Hustlers all show her to her best effect. She's not like a method actress or anything, but she knows how to create on screen chemistry with a wide variety of leading men, and she has decent range (pulls off the softness of rom coms surprisingly well IMO).

I think one issue with JLo's career is that she doesn't love acting-- she loves music and dancing. Her "singing" career is her real passion but she doesn't have a good voice or any skill as a writer/musician/producer. She's a dancer. It's a shame because dancing is just not something you can make money doing, so if she wanted to dance but stay at the level she was at as an actress, she had to sing.

I think both Jens are mediocre actresses overall but each has had a few great parts. For Jen G it was 13 going on 30, Alias, and Juno.

I agree that they’re both mediocre. JLo might actually have more range, but Jen G had two iconic roles in Alias and 13 going on 30. JLo can’t seem to decide what kind of actress she wants to be. (She can’t seem to decide on what kind of career she wants overall, she just jumps into everything, singing, rom coms, crime dramas, modeling, documentaries, designing, not doing anything really well, instead of finding something where her passions and talents collide and focusing on that). Jen G had the good sense to know her skills and make some smart choices. She also seems far more content to step away from the limelight and just be a person, obviously, and that’s something JLo will never be capable of.

I think you assume she has more agency over her acting career than she actually does. Neither of these women gets to pick their roles very much. Especially if you want to stick with movies and won't go the Witherspoon/Aniston/Kidman route of creating the roles/career you want by producing TV and streaming. JLo took the roles she was offered. I don't know that she was dying to make a bunch of rom coms, but the industry decided that was a good way to market her and it worked so she made a few. As she aged out of that, I think it's been very hard to find roles that make sense for her as not only a middle aged woman but also a Latina woman. I am sure there were many roles over the years that she went after and lost to people like Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock, etc. She wanted to be up in their echelon but she was type cast in different ways and it didn't happen. I don't know that you can blame that on her -- I guarantee there were roles that she could have done great things with but she didn't get the opportunities. That's how the acting industry works, especially if your focus is on movies.

I think her music career enabled her to work and perform even though she wasn't necessarily getting the acting opportunities she wanted and that she believed were appropriate for her level. She branded herself as a multi-hyphenate and that worked fairly well -- she's made a lot of money and never really been totally out of the public eye. Women in entertainment really do have to hustle in a way men don't.

Jen G also was, I am certain, quite limited in her roles. She tried to make a pivot to action movies based on Alias, which would be great because there's so much money there, but her one feature (Elektra) was a total flop and after that she was never going to get another opportunity like that (unlike Ben who magically gets to be Batman despite the fact that Daredevil wasn't a huge hit years ago). She did resurrect Elektra for Deadpool but like a lot of her parts in the last 10 years, it's a small role. Sure, she'll say she was focusing on her kids and I believe her. But has also "branded" herself as someone who was focusing on her kid. And so most of the roles she's gotten in recent years are mom roles in lower budget family shows or TV. I'm sure she'd happily take more interesting or higher profile roles. She can't get them.

These women are at the mercy of the market in a way that Ben has never been.

Yea but Jen G pivoted. In terms of money, she makes a ton with all of her promotional stuff, the credit card ads, some skin scare stuff, just saw in a hair ad. And she built a really successful business with the whole organic farming snacks for kids thing. She found a way to keep her income up, keep working, and run a business that probably is really fulfilling.

I know what you mean in that she probably wants to make more important and fulfilling films, but if that’s what being at the mercy of the market means, I’ll take it. No one gets to do their dream job forever with no end. Most actors will never see the success that she has had and will never even get to make one film or show they are proud of… She has a few of those.

As for JLO, same general thing. She got to make a bunch of movies and music and perform. Yes, maybe now she doesn’t get to top roles and her stadium tours anymore. Boo hoo. she’s made plenty of money and she still can have a very lucrative career and stay busy. She just needs to accept that, it what it is, and get over herself a little.

I don’t think she’s capable of that, but she’d probably be a lot happier. I was in utter disbelief of the trailer of her documentary or whatever. Absolutely insane she put that out.

Not a knock on Jennifer Garner, but JLo has worked much more consistently and has made a LOT more money than Garner in the last 10-15 years. She gets better film projects than Garner (much better) and while I don't know this for certain, I am pretty sure that JLo gets a lot more backend on the projects she does than Garner, because her name is a bigger draw at the box office and she has greater ability to get a project made by attaching her name. Like JLo certainly got good backend on Hustlers, which really needed her in order to get made. Can you say the same about any Garner project in the last 20 years, if not ever?

Garner has found a way to make money without getting great roles or even working that much. That's great. It probably makes her a better mom. But JLo is unquestionably more professionally successful. Love her or hate her.