2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter topped out at 5 2” 98 lbs played for Capital Blue and went D1. You can shine without size and strength. Half of it was her heart.

My DD played for a top 20 D1 program. She was a tall strong attacker. After games she looked like she just finished a 12-round boxing match. At that level her size allowed her to catch feeds over smaller players. It was hard for smaller players to defend against her size. I think smaller players will struggle as the sport becomes more physical and players are bigger and better conditioned. I agree you don’t need size at every level of D1, but D1 is not an equal term as talent drops off quickly for the second half of D1 teams. Top DII/DIII teams will beat these teams and I think some top college club teams will give some D1 teams a run for their money.

I would be interested to see the full data rather than a few outliers. Average height by position would be interesting.

Current rosters of last year's top 10 (Northwestern, Boston College, Syracuse, Denver, North Carolina, James Madison, Loyola Maryland, Florida, Maryland, Notre Dame show the following average heights by position:

Attack 5'6"
Defense 5'6"
Midfield 5'6"
Goalie 5'6"
Total 5'6"

Shortest players are 5'2" (6 total). Tallest players are 6'0" (2 total).

Correction - Shortest player is 5'1" (1 total). Tallest players are 6'0" (6 total).

Average height is 5'6". 50th percentile height for 20 year old US women is about two inches shorter than that.

It is not clear to me what "elite" height is after looking at the data.

This is the distribution of height. Almost 50% of players are listed as 5'5", 5'6", or 5'7".

5'1" 0.3%
5'2" 4.0%
5'3" 6.3%
5'4" 10.5%
5'5" 15.6%
5'6" 17.9%
5'7" 14.5%
5'8" 10.8%
5'9" 8.5%
5'10" 7.1%
5'11" 2.8%
6'0" 1.7%

Summary, 5'5"-5'9" seems to be the realistic range. Anything taller is bonus

There are more girls who are 5'4" than 5'9"--not sure why the PP skewed it to the taller range. Maybe 5'4"-5'8" is the realistic range (all over 10% of recruits). And they are likely an inch shorter in real life...

[Anonymous]

https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/women/usa-lacrosse-magazine-announces-division-i-womens-all-americans-1

FIRST TEAM
A — Jenn Medjid, Boston College 5'4
A — Isabella Peterson, James Madison 6'0
A — Izzy Scane, Northwestern 5'7
A — Meaghan Tyrrell, Syracuse 5'3
M — Kasey Choma, Notre Dame 5'5
M — Ellie Masera, Stony Brook 5'3
M — Belle Smith, Boston College 5'5
M — Jillian Wilson, Loyola 5'8
D — Meghan Ball, Rutgers '
D — Katie Detwiler, Loyola 5'5
D — Mairead Durkin, James Madison 5'10
D — Sam Thacker, Denver 5'6
G — Delaney Sweitzer, Syracuse 5'9

SECOND TEAM
A — Erin Coykendall, Northwestern 5'5
A — Julia Gilbert, Denver 5'9
A — Emma LoPinto, Florida 5'4
A — Hailey Rhatigan, Northwestern 5'7
M — Shaylan Ahearn, Maryland 5'7
M — Brigid Duffy, Army 5'6
M — Fiona McGowan, UMass 5'9
M — Cassidy Weeks, Boston College 5'5
D — Abby Bosco, Maryland 5'3
D — Trinity McPherson, Denver 5'6
D — Sydney Scales, Boston College 5'6
D — Sammy White, Northwestern 5'10
G — Sarah Reznick, Florida 5'2

THIRD TEAM
A — Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame 5'5
A — Megan Carney, Syracuse 5'5
A — Rachel Clark, Virginia 5'9
A — Emma Ward, Syracuse 5'2
M — Kristin O'Neill, Penn State 5'8
M — Samantha Smith, Northwestern 5'7
M — Cassidy Spilis, Rutgers '
M — Emma Tyrrell, Syracuse 5'4
D — Clare Levy, Stony Brook 5'5
D — Olivia Dooley, USC 5'8
D — Emily Nalls, North Carolina 5'8
D — Brooklyn Walker-Welch, North Carolina 5'7
G — Lauren Spence, Loyola 5'6

HONORABLE MENTION
A — Ashlyn McGovern, Virginia 5'9
A — Reilly Casey, North Carolina 5'6
A — Eloise Clevenger, Maryland 5'6
A — Gretchen Gilmore, Penn State 5'7
A — Caroline Godine, North Carolina 5'6
A — Katie DeSimone, Duke 5'4
A — Sarah Elms, Jacksonville 5'6
A — Jill Smith, Michigan 5'8
A — Kailyn Hart, Stony Brook 5'5
A — Maddie Jenner, Duke 6'2
A — Ashley Humphrey, Stanford 5'6
A — Georgia Latch, Loyola 5'8
A — Libby May, Maryland 5'7
A — Danielle Pavinelli, Florida 5'9
A — Niki Miles, Penn 5'8
A — Isabelle Vitale, USC 5'5
A — Charlie Rudy, Colorado 5'6
A — Olivia Penoyer, Yale 5'9
A — Mary Schumar, Marquette 5'10
A — Morgan Schwab, Virginia 5'10
A — Kate Shaffer, UConn 5'4
A — Madison Taylor, Northwestern 5'6
A — Arden Tierney, Richmond 5'5
A — Shannon Urey, Mercer 6'1
A — Marissa White, North Carolina 5'6
A — Madison Ahern, Notre Dame 5'8
A — Caitlyn Wurzburger, North Carolina 5'4
A — Olivia Vergano, Virginia Tech 5'9
A — Mckenna Davis, Boston College 5'6
A/M — Corinne Bednarik, Drexel 5'4
M — Ellie Curry, Denver 5'5
M — Caroline Curnal, Villanova 5'9
M — Sierra Cockerille, Syracuse 5'10
M — Lizzy Ferguson, Liberty 5'10
M — Lindsey Frank, Richmond 5'6
M — Annabel Frist, Stanford 5'10
M — Lydia Foust, Marquette 5'6
M — Erin Garvey, Michigan 5'4
M — Ella Little, Clemson 5'9
M — Alyssa Long, North Carolina 5'4
M — Nicole Perroni, Louisville 5'4
M — Ava Yovino, Navy 5'8
M — Aubrey Williams, Virginia 5'9
D — Lindsey Barnes, Fairfield 5'8
D — Cubby Biscardi, Duke 5'5
D — Maddie Burns, Michigan 5'10
D — Carolyn Carrera, Vermont 5'4
D — Kelly Denes, Notre Dame 5'10
D — Hannah Dorney, Notre Dame 5'6
D — Ellie Hollin, Penn State 5'4
D — Brianna Lamoureux, Maryland 5'4
D — Catherine Lord, USC 5'7
D — Caroline Mangan, Fairfield 5'6
D — Bryn McCaughey, Denver 5'11
D — Izzy Rohr, Penn 5'5
D — Hunter Roman, Boston College 5'4
D — Hollie Schleicher, Boston College 5'3
D — Audra Tosone, UMass 5'4
D — Melanie Welch, Boston College 5'7
D — Bailey Wilson, Kennesaw State 5'9
D — Emma Wightman, USC 5'8
D — Kendall Halpern, Northwestern 5'8
G — Emelia Bohi, Denver 5'10
G — Jenika Cuocco, Drexel 5'7
G — Lilly Callahan, Notre Dame 6'0
G — Shea Dolce, Boston College 5'10
G — Lauren DiStefano, Wagner 5'7
G — Alecia Nicholas, North Carolina 5'6
G — Molly Laliberty, Northwestern 5'4
G — Emily Sterling, Maryland 5'5
G — Landyn White, UConn 5'7

[Anonymous]

UNK 2
5'2 2
5'3 4
5'4 16
5'5 15
5'6 19
5'7 12
5'8 12
5'9 12
5'10 11
5'11 1
6'0 2
6'1 1
6'2 1

[Anonymous]

Like in many sports, you don't need to have ideal size to be great, but you better be fast and quick and a bit of an outlier in those metrics, or some other skill set, maybe lethal shooting, or very high lax IQ which reveals itself in terms of CTs and GBs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/women/usa-lacrosse-magazine-announces-division-i-womens-all-americans-1

FIRST TEAM
A — Jenn Medjid, Boston College 5'4
A — Isabella Peterson, James Madison 6'0
A — Izzy Scane, Northwestern 5'7
A — Meaghan Tyrrell, Syracuse 5'3
M — Kasey Choma, Notre Dame 5'5
M — Ellie Masera, Stony Brook 5'3
M — Belle Smith, Boston College 5'5
M — Jillian Wilson, Loyola 5'8
D — Meghan Ball, Rutgers '
D — Katie Detwiler, Loyola 5'5
D — Mairead Durkin, James Madison 5'10
D — Sam Thacker, Denver 5'6
G — Delaney Sweitzer, Syracuse 5'9

SECOND TEAM
A — Erin Coykendall, Northwestern 5'5
A — Julia Gilbert, Denver 5'9
A — Emma LoPinto, Florida 5'4
A — Hailey Rhatigan, Northwestern 5'7
M — Shaylan Ahearn, Maryland 5'7
M — Brigid Duffy, Army 5'6
M — Fiona McGowan, UMass 5'9
M — Cassidy Weeks, Boston College 5'5
D — Abby Bosco, Maryland 5'3
D — Trinity McPherson, Denver 5'6
D — Sydney Scales, Boston College 5'6
D — Sammy White, Northwestern 5'10
G — Sarah Reznick, Florida 5'2

THIRD TEAM
A — Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame 5'5
A — Megan Carney, Syracuse 5'5
A — Rachel Clark, Virginia 5'9
A — Emma Ward, Syracuse 5'2
M — Kristin O'Neill, Penn State 5'8
M — Samantha Smith, Northwestern 5'7
M — Cassidy Spilis, Rutgers '
M — Emma Tyrrell, Syracuse 5'4
D — Clare Levy, Stony Brook 5'5
D — Olivia Dooley, USC 5'8
D — Emily Nalls, North Carolina 5'8
D — Brooklyn Walker-Welch, North Carolina 5'7
G — Lauren Spence, Loyola 5'6

HONORABLE MENTION
A — Ashlyn McGovern, Virginia 5'9
A — Reilly Casey, North Carolina 5'6
A — Eloise Clevenger, Maryland 5'6
A — Gretchen Gilmore, Penn State 5'7
A — Caroline Godine, North Carolina 5'6
A — Katie DeSimone, Duke 5'4
A — Sarah Elms, Jacksonville 5'6
A — Jill Smith, Michigan 5'8
A — Kailyn Hart, Stony Brook 5'5
A — Maddie Jenner, Duke 6'2
A — Ashley Humphrey, Stanford 5'6
A — Georgia Latch, Loyola 5'8
A — Libby May, Maryland 5'7
A — Danielle Pavinelli, Florida 5'9
A — Niki Miles, Penn 5'8
A — Isabelle Vitale, USC 5'5
A — Charlie Rudy, Colorado 5'6
A — Olivia Penoyer, Yale 5'9
A — Mary Schumar, Marquette 5'10
A — Morgan Schwab, Virginia 5'10
A — Kate Shaffer, UConn 5'4
A — Madison Taylor, Northwestern 5'6
A — Arden Tierney, Richmond 5'5
A — Shannon Urey, Mercer 6'1
A — Marissa White, North Carolina 5'6
A — Madison Ahern, Notre Dame 5'8
A — Caitlyn Wurzburger, North Carolina 5'4
A — Olivia Vergano, Virginia Tech 5'9
A — Mckenna Davis, Boston College 5'6
A/M — Corinne Bednarik, Drexel 5'4
M — Ellie Curry, Denver 5'5
M — Caroline Curnal, Villanova 5'9
M — Sierra Cockerille, Syracuse 5'10
M — Lizzy Ferguson, Liberty 5'10
M — Lindsey Frank, Richmond 5'6
M — Annabel Frist, Stanford 5'10
M — Lydia Foust, Marquette 5'6
M — Erin Garvey, Michigan 5'4
M — Ella Little, Clemson 5'9
M — Alyssa Long, North Carolina 5'4
M — Nicole Perroni, Louisville 5'4
M — Ava Yovino, Navy 5'8
M — Aubrey Williams, Virginia 5'9
D — Lindsey Barnes, Fairfield 5'8
D — Cubby Biscardi, Duke 5'5
D — Maddie Burns, Michigan 5'10
D — Carolyn Carrera, Vermont 5'4
D — Kelly Denes, Notre Dame 5'10
D — Hannah Dorney, Notre Dame 5'6
D — Ellie Hollin, Penn State 5'4
D — Brianna Lamoureux, Maryland 5'4
D — Catherine Lord, USC 5'7
D — Caroline Mangan, Fairfield 5'6
D — Bryn McCaughey, Denver 5'11
D — Izzy Rohr, Penn 5'5
D — Hunter Roman, Boston College 5'4
D — Hollie Schleicher, Boston College 5'3
D — Audra Tosone, UMass 5'4
D — Melanie Welch, Boston College 5'7
D — Bailey Wilson, Kennesaw State 5'9
D — Emma Wightman, USC 5'8
D — Kendall Halpern, Northwestern 5'8
G — Emelia Bohi, Denver 5'10
G — Jenika Cuocco, Drexel 5'7
G — Lilly Callahan, Notre Dame 6'0
G — Shea Dolce, Boston College 5'10
G — Lauren DiStefano, Wagner 5'7
G — Alecia Nicholas, North Carolina 5'6
G — Molly Laliberty, Northwestern 5'4
G — Emily Sterling, Maryland 5'5
G — Landyn White, UConn 5'7

Their 40 times would be a more relevant metric.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter topped out at 5 2” 98 lbs played for Capital Blue and went D1. You can shine without size and strength. Half of it was her heart.

My DD played for a top 20 D1 program. She was a tall strong attacker. After games she looked like she just finished a 12-round boxing match. At that level her size allowed her to catch feeds over smaller players. It was hard for smaller players to defend against her size. I think smaller players will struggle as the sport becomes more physical and players are bigger and better conditioned. I agree you don’t need size at every level of D1, but D1 is not an equal term as talent drops off quickly for the second half of D1 teams. Top DII/DIII teams will beat these teams and I think some top college club teams will give some D1 teams a run for their money.

I would be interested to see the full data rather than a few outliers. Average height by position would be interesting.

Current rosters of last year's top 10 (Northwestern, Boston College, Syracuse, Denver, North Carolina, James Madison, Loyola Maryland, Florida, Maryland, Notre Dame show the following average heights by position:

Attack 5'6"
Defense 5'6"
Midfield 5'6"
Goalie 5'6"
Total 5'6"

Shortest players are 5'2" (6 total). Tallest players are 6'0" (2 total).

Correction - Shortest player is 5'1" (1 total). Tallest players are 6'0" (6 total).

Average height is 5'6". 50th percentile height for 20 year old US women is about two inches shorter than that.

It is not clear to me what "elite" height is after looking at the data.

This is the distribution of height. Almost 50% of players are listed as 5'5", 5'6", or 5'7".

5'1" 0.3%
5'2" 4.0%
5'3" 6.3%
5'4" 10.5%
5'5" 15.6%
5'6" 17.9%
5'7" 14.5%
5'8" 10.8%
5'9" 8.5%
5'10" 7.1%
5'11" 2.8%
6'0" 1.7%

Summary, 5'5"-5'9" seems to be the realistic range. Anything taller is bonus

There are more girls who are 5'4" than 5'9"--not sure why the PP skewed it to the taller range. Maybe 5'4"-5'8" is the realistic range (all over 10% of recruits). And they are likely an inch shorter in real life...

Sounds like we have a shorty here!

[Anonymous]

Don’t short change him on the stats.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter topped out at 5 2” 98 lbs played for Capital Blue and went D1. You can shine without size and strength. Half of it was her heart.

My DD played for a top 20 D1 program. She was a tall strong attacker. After games she looked like she just finished a 12-round boxing match. At that level her size allowed her to catch feeds over smaller players. It was hard for smaller players to defend against her size. I think smaller players will struggle as the sport becomes more physical and players are bigger and better conditioned. I agree you don’t need size at every level of D1, but D1 is not an equal term as talent drops off quickly for the second half of D1 teams. Top DII/DIII teams will beat these teams and I think some top college club teams will give some D1 teams a run for their money.

I would be interested to see the full data rather than a few outliers. Average height by position would be interesting.

Current rosters of last year's top 10 (Northwestern, Boston College, Syracuse, Denver, North Carolina, James Madison, Loyola Maryland, Florida, Maryland, Notre Dame show the following average heights by position:

Attack 5'6"
Defense 5'6"
Midfield 5'6"
Goalie 5'6"
Total 5'6"

Shortest players are 5'2" (6 total). Tallest players are 6'0" (2 total).

Correction - Shortest player is 5'1" (1 total). Tallest players are 6'0" (6 total).

Average height is 5'6". 50th percentile height for 20 year old US women is about two inches shorter than that.

It is not clear to me what "elite" height is after looking at the data.

This is the distribution of height. Almost 50% of players are listed as 5'5", 5'6", or 5'7".

5'1" 0.3%
5'2" 4.0%
5'3" 6.3%
5'4" 10.5%
5'5" 15.6%
5'6" 17.9%
5'7" 14.5%
5'8" 10.8%
5'9" 8.5%
5'10" 7.1%
5'11" 2.8%
6'0" 1.7%

Summary, 5'5"-5'9" seems to be the realistic range. Anything taller is bonus

There are more girls who are 5'4" than 5'9"--not sure why the PP skewed it to the taller range. Maybe 5'4"-5'8" is the realistic range (all over 10% of recruits). And they are likely an inch shorter in real life...

Sounds like we have a shorty here!

Nope, but I have coached girls under 5'4" who were outstanding players and always hated it when others, especially their parents, would artificially place limits on what they could accomplish with stuff like: "I'm sure she will be be too short to be recruited..."

[Anonymous]

Agree that speed is the most important quality to have. Speed and height is even better.

[Anonymous]

The intangibles that can't be measured by a national percentile chart that are important to their coaches: heart, grit, competitive drive, a great teammate, a good attitude, unselfish, great team chemistry, coachability, work ethic...

You can't coach most of these things. The player either has it, or they don't. This is what my DD 25 team has, and they have done pretty good...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The intangibles that can't be measured by a national percentile chart that are important to their coaches: heart, grit, competitive drive, a great teammate, a good attitude, unselfish, great team chemistry, coachability, work ethic...

You can't coach most of these things. The player either has it, or they don't. This is what my DD 25 team has, and they have done pretty good...

Is this a DMV or MD team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree that speed is the most important quality to have. Speed and height is even better.

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If you are really short though you also better be a pretty sturdy build - muscular with big strong legs. You can’t be fine boned and weigh 80lbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The intangibles that can't be measured by a national percentile chart that are important to their coaches: heart, grit, competitive drive, a great teammate, a good attitude, unselfish, great team chemistry, coachability, work ethic...

You can't coach most of these things. The player either has it, or they don't. This is what my DD 25 team has, and they have done pretty good...

All great qualities to possess as a player, but as others have already noted speed rules above most things for top D1 programs and speed + size is an advantage. My daughter plays high level D1 and the most noticeable difference I see in top teams vs lower ranked team ones is speed first and then size.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree that speed is the most important quality to have. Speed and height is even better.

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If you are really short though you also better be a pretty sturdy build - muscular with big strong legs. You can’t be fine boned and weigh 80lbs.

Gotta be a beefy gal for sure. I think that is why the Naval Academy women’s team a couple years ago used to play “Fat Bottomed Girls” by Queen before their games. Love the sense of humor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The intangibles that can't be measured by a national percentile chart that are important to their coaches: heart, grit, competitive drive, a great teammate, a good attitude, unselfish, great team chemistry, coachability, work ethic...

You can't coach most of these things. The player either has it, or they don't. This is what my DD 25 team has, and they have done pretty good...

Is this a DMV or MD team?

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