The Bike Lobby is too powerful in DC...

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Anonymous wrote:Tyranny of the Minority (2020-2023) RIP.

You had a god run. The adults are finally back in charge in 2024. Drive, bus, walk, or Metro. Those are your choices.

Anonymous rando on DCUM on a Friday night, deciding which modes of transportation people should get to use.

Love these entitled white guys who are like, I don’t want to walk or ride the subway or take the bus or drive. You have to spend billions of dollars building me my own separate transportation system because I just really like riding my bicycle. Because a city with one quarter of its kids living in poverty doesn’t have anything better to spend its money on.

Hey jerk, paint and a little concrete isn't billions of dollars. All that asphalt and signaling is. The bike infrastructure costs next to freaking nothing compared to the subsidized car infrastructure.

Not billions of course. But if some touch up paint on the mayor’s “BLM plaza” will cost $300K, what do you think bike lanes with the barriers and infrastructure changes nearly the length of Connecticut will cost? That would certainly pay for some needed cops and reading teachers

Look at the budget. The city routinely spends a quarter billion dollars each year on bike infrastructure. They’ve been spending at this rate for 15 years.

I don't see how that's possible when Bowser's budget proposal last year proposed spending $6 million per year on 10 miles per year of protected bike lanes, over the course of six years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/04/01/dc-transportation-budget/

Either the city hasn't actually spent $250 million per year on bike infrastructure, or there are actually many, many more miles of protected bike lanes than any of us is aware of.

The city's budget is a public document. You can just look it up. Here's a *small* sampling of what you'd find:

$36 million for bike lanes
$15 million for Capital Bikeshare
$800,000 for electric bike rebates
$56.4 million for Vision Zero
$39.1 million for bike and pedestrian safety
$18.5 million for signs
$32 million for intersections for intersections with safety concerns
$52 million Long Bridge bicycle connection

Remember all this money is being spent on a tiny number of people. It would be cheaper for the taxpayer if the government bought every cyclist in the city a Porsche.

If the city spent money on poor people like it spends it on cyclists, there would be no poverty in D.C.

Uh, EVERYBODY uses these things and for those who don't you them, you are getting benefit because of the mitigation of people who would otherwise drive, ergo leaving more open road space and parking spaces for people like you.

this is nonsensical. bike lanes make congestion dramatically worse. hardly anyone even uses the bike lanes and among those who do, almost none are switching to bikes from cars. meanwhile the bike lanes leave a lot less room for car traffic, which means a lot more congestion.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyranny of the Minority (2020-2023) RIP.

You had a god run. The adults are finally back in charge in 2024. Drive, bus, walk, or Metro. Those are your choices.

Anonymous rando on DCUM on a Friday night, deciding which modes of transportation people should get to use.

Love these entitled white guys who are like, I don’t want to walk or ride the subway or take the bus or drive. You have to spend billions of dollars building me my own separate transportation system because I just really like riding my bicycle. Because a city with one quarter of its kids living in poverty doesn’t have anything better to spend its money on.

Hey jerk, paint and a little concrete isn't billions of dollars. All that asphalt and signaling is. The bike infrastructure costs next to freaking nothing compared to the subsidized car infrastructure.

Not billions of course. But if some touch up paint on the mayor’s “BLM plaza” will cost $300K, what do you think bike lanes with the barriers and infrastructure changes nearly the length of Connecticut will cost? That would certainly pay for some needed cops and reading teachers

Look at the budget. The city routinely spends a quarter billion dollars each year on bike infrastructure. They’ve been spending at this rate for 15 years.

I don't see how that's possible when Bowser's budget proposal last year proposed spending $6 million per year on 10 miles per year of protected bike lanes, over the course of six years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/04/01/dc-transportation-budget/

Either the city hasn't actually spent $250 million per year on bike infrastructure, or there are actually many, many more miles of protected bike lanes than any of us is aware of.

The city's budget is a public document. You can just look it up. Here's a *small* sampling of what you'd find:

$36 million for bike lanes
$15 million for Capital Bikeshare
$800,000 for electric bike rebates
$56.4 million for Vision Zero
$39.1 million for bike and pedestrian safety
$18.5 million for signs
$32 million for intersections for intersections with safety concerns
$52 million Long Bridge bicycle connection

Remember all this money is being spent on a tiny number of people. It would be cheaper for the taxpayer if the government bought every cyclist in the city a Porsche.

If the city spent money on poor people like it spends it on cyclists, there would be no poverty in D.C.

Uh, EVERYBODY uses these things and for those who don't you them, you are getting benefit because of the mitigation of people who would otherwise drive, ergo leaving more open road space and parking spaces for people like you.

this is nonsensical. bike lanes make congestion dramatically worse. hardly anyone even uses the bike lanes and among those who do, almost none are switching to bikes from cars. meanwhile the bike lanes leave a lot less room for car traffic, which means a lot more congestion.

Nope sorry wasn't true the last 100 times either.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyranny of the Minority (2020-2023) RIP.

You had a god run. The adults are finally back in charge in 2024. Drive, bus, walk, or Metro. Those are your choices.

Anonymous rando on DCUM on a Friday night, deciding which modes of transportation people should get to use.

Love these entitled white guys who are like, I don’t want to walk or ride the subway or take the bus or drive. You have to spend billions of dollars building me my own separate transportation system because I just really like riding my bicycle. Because a city with one quarter of its kids living in poverty doesn’t have anything better to spend its money on.

Hey jerk, paint and a little concrete isn't billions of dollars. All that asphalt and signaling is. The bike infrastructure costs next to freaking nothing compared to the subsidized car infrastructure.

Not billions of course. But if some touch up paint on the mayor’s “BLM plaza” will cost $300K, what do you think bike lanes with the barriers and infrastructure changes nearly the length of Connecticut will cost? That would certainly pay for some needed cops and reading teachers

Look at the budget. The city routinely spends a quarter billion dollars each year on bike infrastructure. They’ve been spending at this rate for 15 years.

I don't see how that's possible when Bowser's budget proposal last year proposed spending $6 million per year on 10 miles per year of protected bike lanes, over the course of six years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/04/01/dc-transportation-budget/

Either the city hasn't actually spent $250 million per year on bike infrastructure, or there are actually many, many more miles of protected bike lanes than any of us is aware of.

The city's budget is a public document. You can just look it up. Here's a *small* sampling of what you'd find:

$36 million for bike lanes
$15 million for Capital Bikeshare
$800,000 for electric bike rebates
$56.4 million for Vision Zero
$39.1 million for bike and pedestrian safety
$18.5 million for signs
$32 million for intersections for intersections with safety concerns
$52 million Long Bridge bicycle connection

Remember all this money is being spent on a tiny number of people. It would be cheaper for the taxpayer if the government bought every cyclist in the city a Porsche.

If the city spent money on poor people like it spends it on cyclists, there would be no poverty in D.C.

Uh, EVERYBODY uses these things and for those who don't you them, you are getting benefit because of the mitigation of people who would otherwise drive, ergo leaving more open road space and parking spaces for people like you.

this is nonsensical. bike lanes make congestion dramatically worse. hardly anyone even uses the bike lanes and among those who do, almost none are switching to bikes from cars. meanwhile the bike lanes leave a lot less room for car traffic, which means a lot more congestion.

Nope sorry wasn't true the last 100 times either.

They should get rid of a lane and make a bigger sidewalk. No bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyranny of the Minority (2020-2023) RIP.

You had a god run. The adults are finally back in charge in 2024. Drive, bus, walk, or Metro. Those are your choices.

Anonymous rando on DCUM on a Friday night, deciding which modes of transportation people should get to use.

Love these entitled white guys who are like, I don’t want to walk or ride the subway or take the bus or drive. You have to spend billions of dollars building me my own separate transportation system because I just really like riding my bicycle. Because a city with one quarter of its kids living in poverty doesn’t have anything better to spend its money on.

Hey jerk, paint and a little concrete isn't billions of dollars. All that asphalt and signaling is. The bike infrastructure costs next to freaking nothing compared to the subsidized car infrastructure.

Not billions of course. But if some touch up paint on the mayor’s “BLM plaza” will cost $300K, what do you think bike lanes with the barriers and infrastructure changes nearly the length of Connecticut will cost? That would certainly pay for some needed cops and reading teachers

Look at the budget. The city routinely spends a quarter billion dollars each year on bike infrastructure. They’ve been spending at this rate for 15 years.

I don't see how that's possible when Bowser's budget proposal last year proposed spending $6 million per year on 10 miles per year of protected bike lanes, over the course of six years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/04/01/dc-transportation-budget/

Either the city hasn't actually spent $250 million per year on bike infrastructure, or there are actually many, many more miles of protected bike lanes than any of us is aware of.

The city's budget is a public document. You can just look it up. Here's a *small* sampling of what you'd find:

$36 million for bike lanes
$15 million for Capital Bikeshare
$800,000 for electric bike rebates
$56.4 million for Vision Zero
$39.1 million for bike and pedestrian safety
$18.5 million for signs
$32 million for intersections for intersections with safety concerns
$52 million Long Bridge bicycle connection

Remember all this money is being spent on a tiny number of people. It would be cheaper for the taxpayer if the government bought every cyclist in the city a Porsche.

If the city spent money on poor people like it spends it on cyclists, there would be no poverty in D.C.

Uh, EVERYBODY uses these things and for those who don't you them, you are getting benefit because of the mitigation of people who would otherwise drive, ergo leaving more open road space and parking spaces for people like you.

this is nonsensical. bike lanes make congestion dramatically worse. hardly anyone even uses the bike lanes and among those who do, almost none are switching to bikes from cars. meanwhile the bike lanes leave a lot less room for car traffic, which means a lot more congestion.

Nope sorry wasn't true the last 100 times either.

They should get rid of a lane and make a bigger sidewalk. No bike lanes.

That was also a foolish idea the last 100 times you suggested it. Bigger sidewalks are good. Bike lanes are also good. There's no conflict.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyranny of the Minority (2020-2023) RIP.

You had a god run. The adults are finally back in charge in 2024. Drive, bus, walk, or Metro. Those are your choices.

Anonymous rando on DCUM on a Friday night, deciding which modes of transportation people should get to use.

Love these entitled white guys who are like, I don’t want to walk or ride the subway or take the bus or drive. You have to spend billions of dollars building me my own separate transportation system because I just really like riding my bicycle. Because a city with one quarter of its kids living in poverty doesn’t have anything better to spend its money on.

Hey jerk, paint and a little concrete isn't billions of dollars. All that asphalt and signaling is. The bike infrastructure costs next to freaking nothing compared to the subsidized car infrastructure.

Not billions of course. But if some touch up paint on the mayor’s “BLM plaza” will cost $300K, what do you think bike lanes with the barriers and infrastructure changes nearly the length of Connecticut will cost? That would certainly pay for some needed cops and reading teachers

Look at the budget. The city routinely spends a quarter billion dollars each year on bike infrastructure. They’ve been spending at this rate for 15 years.

I don't see how that's possible when Bowser's budget proposal last year proposed spending $6 million per year on 10 miles per year of protected bike lanes, over the course of six years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/04/01/dc-transportation-budget/

Either the city hasn't actually spent $250 million per year on bike infrastructure, or there are actually many, many more miles of protected bike lanes than any of us is aware of.

The city's budget is a public document. You can just look it up. Here's a *small* sampling of what you'd find:

$36 million for bike lanes
$15 million for Capital Bikeshare
$800,000 for electric bike rebates
$56.4 million for Vision Zero
$39.1 million for bike and pedestrian safety
$18.5 million for signs
$32 million for intersections for intersections with safety concerns
$52 million Long Bridge bicycle connection

Remember all this money is being spent on a tiny number of people. It would be cheaper for the taxpayer if the government bought every cyclist in the city a Porsche.

If the city spent money on poor people like it spends it on cyclists, there would be no poverty in D.C.

Uh, EVERYBODY uses these things and for those who don't you them, you are getting benefit because of the mitigation of people who would otherwise drive, ergo leaving more open road space and parking spaces for people like you.

this is nonsensical. bike lanes make congestion dramatically worse. hardly anyone even uses the bike lanes and among those who do, almost none are switching to bikes from cars. meanwhile the bike lanes leave a lot less room for car traffic, which means a lot more congestion.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyranny of the Minority (2020-2023) RIP.

You had a god run. The adults are finally back in charge in 2024. Drive, bus, walk, or Metro. Those are your choices.

Anonymous rando on DCUM on a Friday night, deciding which modes of transportation people should get to use.

Love these entitled white guys who are like, I don’t want to walk or ride the subway or take the bus or drive. You have to spend billions of dollars building me my own separate transportation system because I just really like riding my bicycle. Because a city with one quarter of its kids living in poverty doesn’t have anything better to spend its money on.

Hey jerk, paint and a little concrete isn't billions of dollars. All that asphalt and signaling is. The bike infrastructure costs next to freaking nothing compared to the subsidized car infrastructure.

Not billions of course. But if some touch up paint on the mayor’s “BLM plaza” will cost $300K, what do you think bike lanes with the barriers and infrastructure changes nearly the length of Connecticut will cost? That would certainly pay for some needed cops and reading teachers

Look at the budget. The city routinely spends a quarter billion dollars each year on bike infrastructure. They’ve been spending at this rate for 15 years.

I don't see how that's possible when Bowser's budget proposal last year proposed spending $6 million per year on 10 miles per year of protected bike lanes, over the course of six years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/04/01/dc-transportation-budget/

Either the city hasn't actually spent $250 million per year on bike infrastructure, or there are actually many, many more miles of protected bike lanes than any of us is aware of.

The city's budget is a public document. You can just look it up. Here's a *small* sampling of what you'd find:

$36 million for bike lanes
$15 million for Capital Bikeshare
$800,000 for electric bike rebates
$56.4 million for Vision Zero
$39.1 million for bike and pedestrian safety
$18.5 million for signs
$32 million for intersections for intersections with safety concerns
$52 million Long Bridge bicycle connection

Remember all this money is being spent on a tiny number of people. It would be cheaper for the taxpayer if the government bought every cyclist in the city a Porsche.

If the city spent money on poor people like it spends it on cyclists, there would be no poverty in D.C.

Uh, EVERYBODY uses these things and for those who don't you them, you are getting benefit because of the mitigation of people who would otherwise drive, ergo leaving more open road space and parking spaces for people like you.

this is nonsensical. bike lanes make congestion dramatically worse. hardly anyone even uses the bike lanes and among those who do, almost none are switching to bikes from cars. meanwhile the bike lanes leave a lot less room for car traffic, which means a lot more congestion.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyranny of the Minority (2020-2023) RIP.

You had a god run. The adults are finally back in charge in 2024. Drive, bus, walk, or Metro. Those are your choices.

Anonymous rando on DCUM on a Friday night, deciding which modes of transportation people should get to use.

Love these entitled white guys who are like, I don’t want to walk or ride the subway or take the bus or drive. You have to spend billions of dollars building me my own separate transportation system because I just really like riding my bicycle. Because a city with one quarter of its kids living in poverty doesn’t have anything better to spend its money on.

Hey jerk, paint and a little concrete isn't billions of dollars. All that asphalt and signaling is. The bike infrastructure costs next to freaking nothing compared to the subsidized car infrastructure.

Not billions of course. But if some touch up paint on the mayor’s “BLM plaza” will cost $300K, what do you think bike lanes with the barriers and infrastructure changes nearly the length of Connecticut will cost? That would certainly pay for some needed cops and reading teachers

Look at the budget. The city routinely spends a quarter billion dollars each year on bike infrastructure. They’ve been spending at this rate for 15 years.

I don't see how that's possible when Bowser's budget proposal last year proposed spending $6 million per year on 10 miles per year of protected bike lanes, over the course of six years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/04/01/dc-transportation-budget/

Either the city hasn't actually spent $250 million per year on bike infrastructure, or there are actually many, many more miles of protected bike lanes than any of us is aware of.

The city's budget is a public document. You can just look it up. Here's a *small* sampling of what you'd find:

$36 million for bike lanes
$15 million for Capital Bikeshare
$800,000 for electric bike rebates
$56.4 million for Vision Zero
$39.1 million for bike and pedestrian safety
$18.5 million for signs
$32 million for intersections for intersections with safety concerns
$52 million Long Bridge bicycle connection

Remember all this money is being spent on a tiny number of people. It would be cheaper for the taxpayer if the government bought every cyclist in the city a Porsche.

If the city spent money on poor people like it spends it on cyclists, there would be no poverty in D.C.

Uh, EVERYBODY uses these things and for those who don't you them, you are getting benefit because of the mitigation of people who would otherwise drive, ergo leaving more open road space and parking spaces for people like you.

this is nonsensical. bike lanes make congestion dramatically worse. hardly anyone even uses the bike lanes and among those who do, almost none are switching to bikes from cars. meanwhile the bike lanes leave a lot less room for car traffic, which means a lot more congestion.

Nope sorry wasn't true the last 100 times either.

They should get rid of a lane and make a bigger sidewalk. No bike lanes.

Umm that is the point of adding bike lanes - the sidewalk effectively is bigger because pedestrians are no longer sharing space with people on bikes and scooters.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyranny of the Minority (2020-2023) RIP.

You had a god run. The adults are finally back in charge in 2024. Drive, bus, walk, or Metro. Those are your choices.

Anonymous rando on DCUM on a Friday night, deciding which modes of transportation people should get to use.

Love these entitled white guys who are like, I don’t want to walk or ride the subway or take the bus or drive. You have to spend billions of dollars building me my own separate transportation system because I just really like riding my bicycle. Because a city with one quarter of its kids living in poverty doesn’t have anything better to spend its money on.

Hey jerk, paint and a little concrete isn't billions of dollars. All that asphalt and signaling is. The bike infrastructure costs next to freaking nothing compared to the subsidized car infrastructure.

Not billions of course. But if some touch up paint on the mayor’s “BLM plaza” will cost $300K, what do you think bike lanes with the barriers and infrastructure changes nearly the length of Connecticut will cost? That would certainly pay for some needed cops and reading teachers

Look at the budget. The city routinely spends a quarter billion dollars each year on bike infrastructure. They’ve been spending at this rate for 15 years.

I don't see how that's possible when Bowser's budget proposal last year proposed spending $6 million per year on 10 miles per year of protected bike lanes, over the course of six years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/04/01/dc-transportation-budget/

Either the city hasn't actually spent $250 million per year on bike infrastructure, or there are actually many, many more miles of protected bike lanes than any of us is aware of.

The city's budget is a public document. You can just look it up. Here's a *small* sampling of what you'd find:

$36 million for bike lanes
$15 million for Capital Bikeshare
$800,000 for electric bike rebates
$56.4 million for Vision Zero
$39.1 million for bike and pedestrian safety
$18.5 million for signs
$32 million for intersections for intersections with safety concerns
$52 million Long Bridge bicycle connection

Remember all this money is being spent on a tiny number of people. It would be cheaper for the taxpayer if the government bought every cyclist in the city a Porsche.

If the city spent money on poor people like it spends it on cyclists, there would be no poverty in D.C.

Uh, EVERYBODY uses these things and for those who don't you them, you are getting benefit because of the mitigation of people who would otherwise drive, ergo leaving more open road space and parking spaces for people like you.

this is nonsensical. bike lanes make congestion dramatically worse. hardly anyone even uses the bike lanes and among those who do, almost none are switching to bikes from cars. meanwhile the bike lanes leave a lot less room for car traffic, which means a lot more congestion.

Nope sorry wasn't true the last 100 times either.

They should get rid of a lane and make a bigger sidewalk. No bike lanes.

Umm that is the point of adding bike lanes - the sidewalk effectively is bigger because pedestrians are no longer sharing space with people on bikes and scooters.

that's a good point.

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That isn't a good point, that is the main point. The whole thing is a safety improvement regiment for Connecticut Avenue. It isn't just about bike lanes. But the blue hairs who were raised in the 1950's and 60's when the concept of a car and freedom was ingrained into the Boomer culture simply cannot imagine that life could be any different for people younger than them. And as such, they are fighting tooth and nail for a transportation paradigm that is no longer sustainable.

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Anonymous wrote:That isn't a good point, that is the main point. The whole thing is a safety improvement regiment for Connecticut Avenue. It isn't just about bike lanes. But the blue hairs who were raised in the 1950's and 60's when the concept of a car and freedom was ingrained into the Boomer culture simply cannot imagine that life could be any different for people younger than them. And as such, they are fighting tooth and nail for a transportation paradigm that is no longer sustainable.

They simply cannot imagine that life could be any different, period. For anybody, anywhere, ever. A huge failure of imagination, because life will be different whether they want it to be or not.

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Anonymous wrote:That isn't a good point, that is the main point. The whole thing is a safety improvement regiment for Connecticut Avenue. It isn't just about bike lanes. But the blue hairs who were raised in the 1950's and 60's when the concept of a car and freedom was ingrained into the Boomer culture simply cannot imagine that life could be any different for people younger than them. And as such, they are fighting tooth and nail for a transportation paradigm that is no longer sustainable.

They simply cannot imagine that life could be any different, period. For anybody, anywhere, ever. A huge failure of imagination, because life will be different whether they want it to be or not.

+1. They need to let go of their expectations of rapid police response time and viable small businesses. The 20th century is over.

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Anonymous wrote:That isn't a good point, that is the main point. The whole thing is a safety improvement regiment for Connecticut Avenue. It isn't just about bike lanes. But the blue hairs who were raised in the 1950's and 60's when the concept of a car and freedom was ingrained into the Boomer culture simply cannot imagine that life could be any different for people younger than them. And as such, they are fighting tooth and nail for a transportation paradigm that is no longer sustainable.

They simply cannot imagine that life could be any different, period. For anybody, anywhere, ever. A huge failure of imagination, because life will be different whether they want it to be or not.

+1. They need to let go of their expectations of rapid police response time and viable small businesses. The 20th century is over.

Every time you lump all your hobby horses together and project all of DC’s problems onto (checks notes) *bicycles*, you become more and more unhinged sounding.

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Anonymous wrote:That was also a foolish idea the last 100 times you suggested it. Bigger sidewalks are good. Bike lanes are also good. There's no conflict.

Of course there's a conflict. You can just make the road bigger, add bike lanes, and make the sidewalk larger. It's a zero sum game, and any space given to one means less potential space for the others.

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Anonymous wrote:That was also a foolish idea the last 100 times you suggested it. Bigger sidewalks are good. Bike lanes are also good. There's no conflict.

Of course there's a conflict. You can just make the road bigger, add bike lanes, and make the sidewalk larger. It's a zero sum game, and any space given to one means less potential space for the others.

The only space being proposed for removal is limited "car storage"

-The through lanes for cars would actually be expanded - hence not the doom back-ups that the NIMBYs project thanks to the left-turn lanes.
-There would be 24/7 parking on one side of the street, including pick-up/drop-off areas for people driving a vacuum cleaner or wanting to grab a pick-up order of food


So, no reason to make the road bigger, it is just an adjustment of how the current space is being used to provide more rationality and order.

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Anonymous wrote:That was also a foolish idea the last 100 times you suggested it. Bigger sidewalks are good. Bike lanes are also good. There's no conflict.

Of course there's a conflict. You can just make the road bigger, add bike lanes, and make the sidewalk larger. It's a zero sum game, and any space given to one means less potential space for the others.

There is no conflict between sidewalks and bike lanes. There is no reason why we could only have bigger sidewalks, OR bike lanes, but not both. We can have both. We should have both.