Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please note the date of OP’s thread title and today’s date. Where is this inevitable victory
That’s weeks away for the Us-oops I mean Ukraine?

How does a real person find themselves rooting for Russia? I mean, really, if you aren’t getting paid and you aren’t a bot, what happened to you to make you think this way?

It is baffling. But it seems to be pretty common for Republicans. On the actual battlefield, the big thing now is Trump halting weapons support for Ukrainians again. It's generally ammo - anti-aircraft, Patriot missiles, 155s, ammo for HIMARS, and so on. All these weapons are already in Poland and ready to be shipped. These were all greenlit during the Biden administration. But the Trump administration just canceled them. And this is as Russia is getting on with its summer offensive in Sumy and elsewhere. Republicans choosing to do this at this moment in time is clearly meant to weaken Ukraine as things become very difficult again.

It's similar to when the US turned off all support for American weapons systems during Russia's offensive to take back Kursk - which ultimately cost the US billions, probably trillions in the end, in new weapons contracts. But there is no doubt that Republicans are actively helping Russia take Ukraine. And I am mystified why Republicans are so enthusiastic in their support of Russia. But I don't spend much time on social media, so I'm probably missing why conservatives are so enthusiastic about Putin. But it's a very real thing, and I wish media would spend a little more time on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please note the date of OP’s thread title and today’s date. Where is this inevitable victory
That’s weeks away for the Us-oops I mean Ukraine?

How does a real person find themselves rooting for Russia? I mean, really, if you aren’t getting paid and you aren’t a bot, what happened to you to make you think this way?

It is baffling. But it seems to be pretty common for Republicans. On the actual battlefield, the big thing now is Trump halting weapons support for Ukrainians again. It's generally ammo - anti-aircraft, Patriot missiles, 155s, ammo for HIMARS, and so on. All these weapons are already in Poland and ready to be shipped. These were all greenlit during the Biden administration. But the Trump administration just canceled them. And this is as Russia is getting on with its summer offensive in Sumy and elsewhere. Republicans choosing to do this at this moment in time is clearly meant to weaken Ukraine as things become very difficult again.

It's similar to when the US turned off all support for American weapons systems during Russia's offensive to take back Kursk - which ultimately cost the US billions, probably trillions in the end, in new weapons contracts. But there is no doubt that Republicans are actively helping Russia take Ukraine. And I am mystified why Republicans are so enthusiastic in their support of Russia. But I don't spend much time on social media, so I'm probably missing why conservatives are so enthusiastic about Putin. But it's a very real thing, and I wish media would spend a little more time on it.

Putin owns Trump. We all watch as Putin slapped Trump in the face during the “peace” talks. Putin and Bibi own Trump.

[Anonymous]

On this 4th of July all true Americans wish the people of Lugansk the best as they have liberated themselves from their own mad king.

May the spirit of Independence bless all the people yearning for freedom in the Ukraine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On this 4th of July all true Americans wish the people of Lugansk the best as they have liberated themselves from their own mad king.

May the spirit of Independence bless all the people yearning for freedom in the Ukraine.

That is not the spirit of America any more. American cities are occupied by the US military and a state police force. Here is to hoping no other free country falls like the US has.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please note the date of OP’s thread title and today’s date. Where is this inevitable victory
That’s weeks away for the Us-oops I mean Ukraine?

How does a real person find themselves rooting for Russia? I mean, really, if you aren’t getting paid and you aren’t a bot, what happened to you to make you think this way?

It is baffling. But it seems to be pretty common for Republicans. On the actual battlefield, the big thing now is Trump halting weapons support for Ukrainians again. It's generally ammo - anti-aircraft, Patriot missiles, 155s, ammo for HIMARS, and so on. All these weapons are already in Poland and ready to be shipped. These were all greenlit during the Biden administration. But the Trump administration just canceled them. And this is as Russia is getting on with its summer offensive in Sumy and elsewhere. Republicans choosing to do this at this moment in time is clearly meant to weaken Ukraine as things become very difficult again.

It's similar to when the US turned off all support for American weapons systems during Russia's offensive to take back Kursk - which ultimately cost the US billions, probably trillions in the end, in new weapons contracts. But there is no doubt that Republicans are actively helping Russia take Ukraine. And I am mystified why Republicans are so enthusiastic in their support of Russia. But I don't spend much time on social media, so I'm probably missing why conservatives are so enthusiastic about Putin. But it's a very real thing, and I wish media would spend a little more time on it.

Putin owns Trump. We all watch as Putin slapped Trump in the face during the “peace” talks. Putin and Bibi own Trump.

Russian hoax is tired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ukraine has the population, will, and backing to win.

It has also proven it can outlast and outfight the RA.

Russia’s losses are unsustainable, while Ukraine’s are not. I am not just referring to equipment (although Russia cannot replace its lost tanks/planes missiles, while Ukraine’s supplies of tanks / IVFs etc. increase daily ).

As to combat losses of soldiers, WW1 France is a good analogy.

France 1914: pop 39.6M. KIA over 4.3 years: 1.4M, or about 320,500 per year every year. Total % of male population per year, all ages :1.6%

Ukraine 2022: pop 43.8M. KIA over 1 year: 50K? 75K? Official figures are not released. Total of male population per year, all ages: to 0.22% to 0.34%.

Ukraine is taking essentially 1/5th to 1/7th the casualty rate that France took every year for 4.3 years, and at the end of that 4.3 years the French Army was objectively stronger than it was in 1914 thanks to added capabilities and tactics.

It is also relevant the French were fighting against being subjugated, while the Ukrainians are fighting against being exterminated.

There are plenty of ground-level interviews that show the average Ukrainian knows the stakes. Ukraine will fight on because they must. Study the military history of Israel for comparison, where an objectively smaller, less-equipped military nevertheless prevailed over much larger forces and against all odds.

Having studied Russia’s repeated, overt, statements of their genocidal intentions toward Ukraine, this isn’t just rhetoric. Russia absolutely will murder millions of Ukrainians if they win. They’ve done it before and they say they will do it again (and that is not even considering their intended cultural genocide, which is currently underway in some Oblasts).

Ukraine can suffer these losses far longer than Russia can keep throwing mobiks at them.

It is not that Russia will run out of mobiks, but rather, Russia is losing because of poor and deteriorating morale, broken, antiquated logistics, lack of training, crippling economic sanctions, and domestic production issues. Russia can’t possibly solve these critical issues in the necessary timeframe.

Russia is facing a coalition of forces with more than 20 times their GDP. This military conflict can only end one way. And Putin has steadfastly refused at this point to negotiate.

Rest assured: Russia will lose this war.

The only open question is if Russia survives this, or breaks up entirely.

I just woke up OP. What happened? Did I miss Ukraine’s victory parade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please note the date of OP’s thread title and today’s date. Where is this inevitable victory
That’s weeks away for the Us-oops I mean Ukraine?

How does a real person find themselves rooting for Russia? I mean, really, if you aren’t getting paid and you aren’t a bot, what happened to you to make you think this way?

It is baffling. But it seems to be pretty common for Republicans. On the actual battlefield, the big thing now is Trump halting weapons support for Ukrainians again. It's generally ammo - anti-aircraft, Patriot missiles, 155s, ammo for HIMARS, and so on. All these weapons are already in Poland and ready to be shipped. These were all greenlit during the Biden administration. But the Trump administration just canceled them. And this is as Russia is getting on with its summer offensive in Sumy and elsewhere. Republicans choosing to do this at this moment in time is clearly meant to weaken Ukraine as things become very difficult again.

It's similar to when the US turned off all support for American weapons systems during Russia's offensive to take back Kursk - which ultimately cost the US billions, probably trillions in the end, in new weapons contracts. But there is no doubt that Republicans are actively helping Russia take Ukraine. And I am mystified why Republicans are so enthusiastic in their support of Russia. But I don't spend much time on social media, so I'm probably missing why conservatives are so enthusiastic about Putin. But it's a very real thing, and I wish media would spend a little more time on it.

Putin owns Trump. We all watch as Putin slapped Trump in the face during the “peace” talks. Putin and Bibi own Trump.

i remember when mitch and friends were is russia for the 4th of july. it was appalling.

[Anonymous]

Seems more difficult when Trump is green lighting Russian attacks.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-lit-match-brutal-parnas/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ukraine has the population, will, and backing to win.

It has also proven it can outlast and outfight the RA.

Russia’s losses are unsustainable, while Ukraine’s are not. I am not just referring to equipment (although Russia cannot replace its lost tanks/planes missiles, while Ukraine’s supplies of tanks / IVFs etc. increase daily ).

As to combat losses of soldiers, WW1 France is a good analogy.

France 1914: pop 39.6M. KIA over 4.3 years: 1.4M, or about 320,500 per year every year. Total % of male population per year, all ages :1.6%

Ukraine 2022: pop 43.8M. KIA over 1 year: 50K? 75K? Official figures are not released. Total of male population per year, all ages: to 0.22% to 0.34%.

Ukraine is taking essentially 1/5th to 1/7th the casualty rate that France took every year for 4.3 years, and at the end of that 4.3 years the French Army was objectively stronger than it was in 1914 thanks to added capabilities and tactics.

It is also relevant the French were fighting against being subjugated, while the Ukrainians are fighting against being exterminated.

There are plenty of ground-level interviews that show the average Ukrainian knows the stakes. Ukraine will fight on because they must. Study the military history of Israel for comparison, where an objectively smaller, less-equipped military nevertheless prevailed over much larger forces and against all odds.

Having studied Russia’s repeated, overt, statements of their genocidal intentions toward Ukraine, this isn’t just rhetoric. Russia absolutely will murder millions of Ukrainians if they win. They’ve done it before and they say they will do it again (and that is not even considering their intended cultural genocide, which is currently underway in some Oblasts).

Ukraine can suffer these losses far longer than Russia can keep throwing mobiks at them.

It is not that Russia will run out of mobiks, but rather, Russia is losing because of poor and deteriorating morale, broken, antiquated logistics, lack of training, crippling economic sanctions, and domestic production issues. Russia can’t possibly solve these critical issues in the necessary timeframe.

Russia is facing a coalition of forces with more than 20 times their GDP. This military conflict can only end one way. And Putin has steadfastly refused at this point to negotiate.

Rest assured: Russia will lose this war.

The only open question is if Russia survives this, or breaks up entirely.

I just woke up OP. What happened? Did I miss Ukraine’s victory parade?

You certainly haven't missed Russia's. In any event, they'd probably run out of gas during such a parade in the same way they ran out of gas on the way to Kyiv.