Subtle signs of class

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Anonymous wrote:I think a big tv is okay, just not over the fireplace. No video game consoles, gamers are lazy.

Doesn't make gross generalization about people's occasional hobbies.

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Anonymous wrote:Class and wealth are not the same thing.

This is DCUM. Yes, they are.

No, because then DJT would have “class.”

Well, DCUM believes that they have wealth, and that is class, but other people (the poors) don't _know_ they have class, i.e., wealth, and need a way to signal it subtly. The know the poors know these subtle signals, but because they aren't poors, they don't know what those subtle signals are.

Psst: "DCUM" is not a hive mind.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there still some Green Book social registry here in DC?

Yes

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An Hermes Avalon throw blanket

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Anonymous wrote:An Hermes Avalon throw blanket

Easiest way to tell someone is nouveau and to disregard anything about them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a big tv is okay, just not over the fireplace. No video game consoles, gamers are lazy.

Doesn't make gross generalization about people's occasional hobbies.

Big TV is fine. Its just where is it placed? Not in the room where you receive guests, ie not in the living room.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice (i.e. 70k +) cars, updated house finishes, tons of books and unique art, high quality but smallish wardrobe, spends most of their extra money on travel and experiences rather than things

Both parents have graduate degrees

Nice house with *very* short commute (think Kalorama)

Private schooling and private sports/language/music/etc. lessons for kids. Get their kids involved with expensive sports (tennis, skiing, golf, horseback riding, sailing if you live in Maryland, etc.) from a young age.

You can tell a lot by the way a person eats and works out. Boutique exercise classes, slender physique, eats mainly "clean" locally sourced organic foods.

Flashy cars make true WASPs cringe. Try old Volvos or generic Priuses or Toyota Camrys.

Nope. All the broke WASPs I know drive old Mercedes or Audis. Volvos aren't cheap either. My Volvo SUV was over 60k.

I suppose you've never been to CT, world headquarters of hedge fund culture. All those guys drive super exotic cars. A BMW 3 series is considered an entry level vehicle there.

A 3 series is considered entry level everywhere **rolls eyes**

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Anonymous wrote:Being subtle
Having a depth of knowledge about hard-to-access topics such as art, music, literature
Not looking stressed without cosmetic intervention... they just have everything they need so don't worry much

How are those topics hard to access? Everyone should have access to a free public library.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the good manners and cleanliness response of a PP.

I would add
Kindness
Tact / avoiding hurting others’ feelings
Valuing non monetary treasures such as musicality and artistic expression
Have original art and frame choice pieces of their children’s art
Have some furniture that goes back at least 3 generations
Value domestic staff and treat them very well
Ancestors who have highly distinctive accomplishments such as Nobel prizes or pioneering breakthroughs of some kind and some ancestors who are crazy
Encourage their children to work hard, make their own paths and use their advantages in life to do good
Consistent faith of some kind
Loyal friends and spouses (this is somewhat controversial)
Don’t over share on social media or post their children on social media

LOL. Ancestors with Nobel Prizes. Most Nobel prizes have been won by first and second generation immigrants many of whom were Jewish. Not Wasps. Not old money. The self congratulation and smugness has now officially crossed over into delusion.

Yeah this one is kind of ridiculous

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Anonymous wrote:Being subtle
Having a depth of knowledge about hard-to-access topics such as art, music, literature
Not looking stressed without cosmetic intervention... they just have everything they need so don't worry much

How are those topics hard to access? Everyone should have access to a free public library.

And yet most of America doesn't access the knowledge.

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Kardashian women and Lauren Sanchez=nouveau riche. If a Kardashian or Lauren does something, you can be assured it's the very opposite of class.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice (i.e. 70k +) cars, updated house finishes, tons of books and unique art, high quality but smallish wardrobe, spends most of their extra money on travel and experiences rather than things

Both parents have graduate degrees

Nice house with *very* short commute (think Kalorama)

Private schooling and private sports/language/music/etc. lessons for kids. Get their kids involved with expensive sports (tennis, skiing, golf, horseback riding, sailing if you live in Maryland, etc.) from a young age.

You can tell a lot by the way a person eats and works out. Boutique exercise classes, slender physique, eats mainly "clean" locally sourced organic foods.

Flashy cars make true WASPs cringe. Try old Volvos or generic Priuses or Toyota Camrys.

Nope. All the broke WASPs I know drive old Mercedes or Audis. Volvos aren't cheap either. My Volvo SUV was over 60k.

I suppose you've never been to CT, world headquarters of hedge fund culture. All those guys drive super exotic cars. A BMW 3 series is considered an entry level vehicle there.

A 3 series is considered entry level everywhere **rolls eyes**

Um…..no it really isn’t.

You are out of touch.

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Christmas cards with no photos

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Anonymous wrote:Being subtle
Having a depth of knowledge about hard-to-access topics such as art, music, literature
Not looking stressed without cosmetic intervention... they just have everything they need so don't worry much

How are those topics hard to access? Everyone should have access to a free public library.

And yet most of America doesn't access the knowledge.

Due to lack of interest or motivation, not accessibility. Also, the upper class is not the same as the intellectual class. You can be UC and not intellectual and vice versa.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh totally!
Things that say class to me are as you say a lot of books, items from different cultures, furniture that is thoughtfully curated (doesn’t have to be expensive). Instruments for sure. Art, even if self made. Things that are unique.

Signs of the opposite to me are those puffy leather sofas, signs that say stuff like live laugh love, a lot of Raymour and Flanagan looking stuff, bad lighting, linoleum and anything ‘fake fancy’. Also fake tree at holiday time screams no class

Guess my mold allergies have doomed me to a low class life. My trees are pretty to look at, though.

PP and having an available physician who can diagnose, treat and prescribe meds for an ongoing or seasonal malady is a class thing - LMC and above. The fact that you have insurance and easy access to low cost med refills is a benefit available to LMC/working class and above.

There’s certainly a correlation between diagnoses/meds and higher income demographics.

So you could check medicine cabinets! Who has EpiPens/inhalers/CGM/an array of rx meds for ADHD/depression/anxiety and who has just otc meds only and maybe a few bottles of expired rx meds from a long ago ER visit.

Why would someone need all those meds if they have money to spend on nutrition and wellness?

Because they can afford to see the doctor for any little thing that comes up. And their doctors are more willing to prescribe for off label use and to do things like give diet pills, or in previous generations, Valium and Xanex. Unlike poor people who only get care when they’re so sick they have to go to the ER. I’m really discouraged by how many people here don’t understand this.

That’s not a sign of class. Just a sign of being not-poor. The two are not the same.

Agree. It's more of a sign of someone having a job with good insurance. I used to have all those things back when I made under 50k because I worked for a company with great insurance benefits.

Not sure. Eagerly signing one's self and one's child up for diagnoses and prescriptions seems LMC or MC.