Bill to reduce the amount of education for cosmetologists and barbers in Virginia

Anonymous
Head's Up. Corporate salons are lobbying in Virginia to get the number of hours required to get a license reduced from 1500 to 1000 for Cosmetologists and 1100 to 1000 for Barbers. Barbers have already had their hours reduced recently.

It's hard enough to find competent stylists, reducing the amount of training by 33% for someone who is mixing chemicals for you hair seems like a bad idea for both the professionals and the public. Safety and sanitation are important, not to mention diseases of the hair, skin, and nails they should be able to recognize so as to not inadvertently hurt anyone or spread diseases.

No one is graduating from cosmetology school thinking they have too much education.

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB514
http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+SB915

https://whosmy.virginiageneralassembly.gov/
Anonymous
'Why is the state in the business of licensing hairdressers and barbers in the first place?
Anonymous
I'm a cosmetologist and a cosmetology instructor, so I feel like I'll give you a pretty good answer here.

There's a lot to cosmetology that people don't realize. Yes, we cut, color, and perm hair, but we also have to learn the processes and the chemistry behind it. We go in depth with coloring and perming, teaching our students WHY it works.

Just an example, if a client walks through the door and asks for a perm, we first need to analyze the hair. Is it in good enough shape to receive the perm without breaking off? We check the porosity of the hair, the texture, the elasticity. Students learn how to properly analyze the porosity, texture, elasticity, and density with hands on training. If the condition of the hair is good enough to receive the perm, then we choose a proper perm for that client. Everybody's hair is different, so that's why there are so many different perms. There are exothermic perms, alkaline perms, acid perms, and many more. As cosmetologists we need to know what each perm does and how they are different from one another.

In a color situation, we would analyze the hair. An important step in analyzing the hair before a color, would be analyzing the client's color that she's wearing now. Is it virgin hair or has it previously been tinted or lightened? The underlying pigments in the hair, whether the hair is virgin or tinted, will definitely play a part in what color the hair will be after the new color is applied. If we are lightening the hair, which can be quite damaging at times, we need to know how much "lift" can be achieved without breakage. In color we need to know the levels of hair color, being 1-10 (1 being the darkest black, 10 being the palest blond), and the underlying pigments of those levels. Cosmetologists must understand warm, cool, and neutral tones, and need to have a thorough understanding of the color wheel before doing any color services. The color wheel helps us understand which colors neutralize other colors, those are called complementary colors. An example would be a client with a green cast in her hair. Across from Green on the color wheel is Red, meaning the red would neutralize the green cast.

Aside from hair services, cosmetologists also do a lot in skin and nail care. The biggest thing to check before the skincare or nail care service is analyzing the area for disease or disorder. We are cosmetologists, not dermatologists or doctors, but we need to recognize what we can and can't work on. If a nail disease is infectious, we are, by law, required to turn that client away. If the nail is only bruised however, we're able to continue with the service.

I hope this gives you a little understanding of the things we learn and why we learn them. There's a lot to be said about a cosmetologist. If trained properly, they should have a vast knowledge of many things. In beauty school you learn what you need to know, or "the basics," and once you step out into the salon world there's so much more to watch and learn.

It's truly a rewarding career, and a career that can lead to great success.

I hope this helped and properly answered your question!

https://www.answers.com/Q/Why_do_you_need_a_license_for_cosmetology
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Head's Up. Corporate salons are lobbying in Virginia to get the number of hours required to get a license reduced from 1500 to 1000 for Cosmetologists and 1100 to 1000 for Barbers. Barbers have already had their hours reduced recently.

It's hard enough to find competent stylists, reducing the amount of training by 33% for someone who is mixing chemicals for you hair seems like a bad idea for both the professionals and the public. Safety and sanitation are important, not to mention diseases of the hair, skin, and nails they should be able to recognize so as to not inadvertently hurt anyone or spread diseases.

No one is graduating from cosmetology school thinking they have too much education.

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB514
http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+SB915

https://whosmy.virginiageneralassembly.gov/


1,000 is basically 20 hours of training a week for a year. That’s a lot of training.
Anonymous

Barbers may soon be educated in skin cancer lesions and help save lives by warning you about spots on your head you might otherwise not be able to see. There was an NPR discussion about this not too long ago.

So...
I'm always in favor of more training, not less.
Anonymous
A Woman Got A Nasty Foot Infection From A Pedicure - What You Need To Know

Getting a pedicure is often a delightful way to relax, but in some unlucky cases, it can also be a health hazard. Stacey Wilson of Benton, Arkansas got a post-pedicure foot infection that landed her in the hospital, she told KATV. "It feels like you're sitting too close to a fire and you just cannot get away from it," she said.

Wilson went to the nail salon on Saturday, February 6. All was well until the spa employee cut the side of Wilson's foot and beneath her pinky toe when sloughing skin away with a pumice stone. "She knew she had hurt me a little bit," said Wilson. Her symptoms soon showed that there was something more serious going on than a scrape, she told KATV.

By Sunday, her ankle was painful and red, by Monday, it hurt even more, and by Tuesday, she couldn't put any weight on it to stand, the redness was spreading up to her knee, and she had a fever of 102 degrees.

Wilson went to the emergency room where doctors informed her she had cellulitis, a bacterial infection that's most common on the lower legs, according to Mayo Clinic. She spent four days in the hospital and plans on filing a complaint with the Arkansas Health Department when she's released.

Although it's a worrisome story, there are ways to avoid the same fate. Here's what you need to know to prevent this from happening to you.

1. Cellulitis can enter the skin through a small opening.
It happens when bacteria, usually streptococcus and staphylococcus, access your system via a cut or crack on your skin, according to Mayo Clinic. While cellulitis is usually treated with antibiotics that target both types of bacteria, staphylococcus can manifest as a harder-to-treat infection known as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA).

2. Pedicures can also result in other kinds of infections.
Beyond bacterial ones, improper pedicures can cause fungal infections, when the nail yellows and begins to rise off its bed, and viral infections that show up as plantar warts, according to Cleveland Clinic.

3. Typical pedicures aren't the only ones that can put you at risk.
Fish pedicures, when you submerge your feet into water full of small fish that eat off the dead skin, can seem like a fun novelty. In reality, they're rife with issues. More than 10 states have banned the procedure, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The main concern is sanitation, as the tubs can't be properly disinfected with fish inside them, and of course the fish themselves can't be, either. A 2013 case study in the journal Infection even reported a patient who got MRSA after a fish pedicure. Also, according to the CDC, another alarming factor is that the fish need to be starved in order to eat the dead skin.

4. To avoid issues, find licensed salons and technicians.
Mayo Clinic recommends only going to salons that display a current state license somewhere visible, and that you ask to make sure the actual technicians are state-licensed as well.

5. Find out how they sterilize tools.
There are various signs a salon is—or isn't—working with customers' health in mind. First, the nail technicians should be using new tools on each client instead of reusing the same ones on various people, podiatrist Joy Rowland, D.P.M., tells Cleveland Clinic. All tools should be disinfected with a process called autoclaving, which calls upon pressurized steam to kill any potential infection-causers, according to UC San Diego's Biosafety resources. And when it comes to pedicures, Rowland says the foot baths should each get treated with a hospital-grade disinfectant in between clients.

6. Go to the salon first thing in the morning.
The American Podiatric Medical Association's (APMA) reasoning is that salon foot baths are usually at their cleanest earlier in the day as opposed to after they've been through multiple customers. If you can only go later, in addition to asking how often they clean the baths, ask whether they filter them between clients as well.

7. Don't let anyone cut your cuticles.
That goes for both your hands and feet! The cuticles are there to protect nails from infection, says the APMA. For that reason, you should never let anyone cut them, as they can accidentally nick you and give bacteria easy access to your system. Even if you don't get cut in that moment, without that layer of protection, your nails are more vulnerable to infection until your cuticles grow back.

8. Shave after you get a pedicure, not before.
Bacteria can enter through any small shaving nicks, even if you don't realize you cut yourself.

9. Skip the foot razor and ask the technician to be gentle with the pumice stone.
Foot razors, also known as credo blades, are entirely too rough for your feet. Using them can cause infection or even permanent damage, according to the APMA. Instead, opt for something like a foot file or pumice stone, but know that simply choosing the better tool doesn't completely protect you (as in Wilson's case—her technician was using a pumice stone). Speak up if the technician is being too rough or does something that hurts, and don't worry that doing so is offensive. As a customer, you're well within your rights to express what makes you feel most comfortable, especially when your health could be on the line.

https://www.self.com/story/a-woman-got-a-nasty-foot-infection-from-a-pedicure-what-you-need-to-know
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Head's Up. Corporate salons are lobbying in Virginia to get the number of hours required to get a license reduced from 1500 to 1000 for Cosmetologists and 1100 to 1000 for Barbers. Barbers have already had their hours reduced recently.

It's hard enough to find competent stylists, reducing the amount of training by 33% for someone who is mixing chemicals for you hair seems like a bad idea for both the professionals and the public. Safety and sanitation are important, not to mention diseases of the hair, skin, and nails they should be able to recognize so as to not inadvertently hurt anyone or spread diseases.

No one is graduating from cosmetology school thinking they have too much education.

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB514
http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+SB915

https://whosmy.virginiageneralassembly.gov/


1,000 is basically 20 hours of training a week for a year. That’s a lot of training.


Beauty school is a commitment. It’s a year full-time or two years part-time and about $40,000 for tuition, books and supplies.
Anonymous
lol no there should not be mandatory cosmetology, hairdressing, or barber licensing at all. If it’s a benefit people want they will voluntarily go to people with more training, but I support licensing reform.
Anonymous
More training to be a cosmetologist than it takes to become a cop with a gun who gets to shoot people.
Anonymous
It's another profit vs public welfare battle.

The field of cosmetology should be left to determine what's the appropriate amount of training -- not the state, and not corporate salons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Barbers may soon be educated in skin cancer lesions and help save lives by warning you about spots on your head you might otherwise not be able to see. There was an NPR discussion about this not too long ago.

So...
I'm always in favor of more training, not less.

A barber is not a doctor. It’s great if a barber sees something suspicious and tells the client, but we should not be putting these sorts of medical responsibilities on barbers, thereby setting them up for lawsuits if they fail to properly assess a medical condition and make the appropriate recommendation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Barbers may soon be educated in skin cancer lesions and help save lives by warning you about spots on your head you might otherwise not be able to see. There was an NPR discussion about this not too long ago.

So...
I'm always in favor of more training, not less.

A barber is not a doctor. It’s great if a barber sees something suspicious and tells the client, but we should not be putting these sorts of medical responsibilities on barbers, thereby setting them up for lawsuits if they fail to properly assess a medical condition and make the appropriate recommendation.


You are right. A barber is not a dermatologist. But barbers look at a lot of heads and sometimes see odd things. It is important that they recognize something that is not safe for them to work on and refer any questionable conditions to a doctor for diagnosis and treatment. Knowing what's within their scope of practice is part of licensing. People don't bother to ask about training or licensing or insurance until something goes horribly wrong after a basic service.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/g20138724/skin-infections-barbershop/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Barbers may soon be educated in skin cancer lesions and help save lives by warning you about spots on your head you might otherwise not be able to see. There was an NPR discussion about this not too long ago.

So...
I'm always in favor of more training, not less.

A barber is not a doctor. It’s great if a barber sees something suspicious and tells the client, but we should not be putting these sorts of medical responsibilities on barbers, thereby setting them up for lawsuits if they fail to properly assess a medical condition and make the appropriate recommendation.


You are right. A barber is not a dermatologist. But barbers look at a lot of heads and sometimes see odd things. It is important that they recognize something that is not safe for them to work on and refer any questionable conditions to a doctor for diagnosis and treatment. Knowing what's within their scope of practice is part of licensing. People don't bother to ask about training or licensing or insurance until something goes horribly wrong after a basic service.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/g20138724/skin-infections-barbershop/


That article has nothing to do with identifying skin cancer, which is what’s being discussed in this thread of the conversation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:'Why is the state in the business of licensing hairdressers and barbers in the first place?


Bingo. Why indeed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:More training to be a cosmetologist than it takes to become a cop with a gun who gets to shoot people.


Most cops don't know much about guns, aren't very good shots, and don't practice much. So you're even more correct than you even realized.
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