MCPS High School Boundary Map? Current.

[Anonymous]

Anyone can point to a map that shows current boundaries of all high schools
in MCPS all at the same time? With the school location within them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone can point to a map that shows current boundaries of all high schools
in MCPS all at the same time? With the school location within them?

MCPS Viewer. In the upper right, you can choose which level(s) you want to see.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/Viewer.html

[Anonymous]

Somebody recently made this version which overlays FARMS percentages in clusters. It is quite telling, and you can see where there can be some movement. It is pretty obvious which schools will be tough to bus due to long commutes to higher FARMS rate schools. I just don't see how they are going to create any diversity with those schools....they look pretty protected to me. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/InteractiveLegend/index.html?appid=bf5860e2422b4816970eb80960f8019c&fbclid=IwAR0tlyWCuePkw9oJ3Wemm-jWQ7XUFLZ07awWNytnq2WhjUGBJ5oPH8CUcm4

[Anonymous]

Both maps are great but they are hard to read with so much info on it and
once one turns off certain features then it is not complete picture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Somebody recently made this version which overlays FARMS percentages in clusters. It is quite telling, and you can see where there can be some movement. It is pretty obvious which schools will be tough to bus due to long commutes to higher FARMS rate schools. I just don't see how they are going to create any diversity with those schools....they look pretty protected to me. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/InteractiveLegend/index.html?appid=bf5860e2422b4816970eb80960f8019c&fbclid=IwAR0tlyWCuePkw9oJ3Wemm-jWQ7XUFLZ07awWNytnq2WhjUGBJ5oPH8CUcm4

Fascinating map, thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody recently made this version which overlays FARMS percentages in clusters. It is quite telling, and you can see where there can be some movement. It is pretty obvious which schools will be tough to bus due to long commutes to higher FARMS rate schools. I just don't see how they are going to create any diversity with those schools....they look pretty protected to me. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/InteractiveLegend/index.html?appid=bf5860e2422b4816970eb80960f8019c&fbclid=IwAR0tlyWCuePkw9oJ3Wemm-jWQ7XUFLZ07awWNytnq2WhjUGBJ5oPH8CUcm4

Fascinating map, thanks for sharing.

Is it? Did anyone dispute that the poor minorities lived on the east side of town? Did anyone dispute that when there are concentrations of poor people that people with money avoid that area? When the rich flood to an area prices go up and poor people can’t move there so the select the cheap side of town. Those areas get more poverty which causes flight and here we are

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody recently made this version which overlays FARMS percentages in clusters. It is quite telling, and you can see where there can be some movement. It is pretty obvious which schools will be tough to bus due to long commutes to higher FARMS rate schools. I just don't see how they are going to create any diversity with those schools....they look pretty protected to me. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/InteractiveLegend/index.html?appid=bf5860e2422b4816970eb80960f8019c&fbclid=IwAR0tlyWCuePkw9oJ3Wemm-jWQ7XUFLZ07awWNytnq2WhjUGBJ5oPH8CUcm4

Fascinating map, thanks for sharing.

Is it? Did anyone dispute that the poor minorities lived on the east side of town? Did anyone dispute that when there are concentrations of poor people that people with money avoid that area? When the rich flood to an area prices go up and poor people can’t move there so the select the cheap side of town. Those areas get more poverty which causes flight and here we are

Well if you can't say something nice...

[Anonymous]

Is integration even possible when one side has money and the other doesn’t. Move poor kids anywhere you want, the rich will move or simply never move there in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody recently made this version which overlays FARMS percentages in clusters. It is quite telling, and you can see where there can be some movement. It is pretty obvious which schools will be tough to bus due to long commutes to higher FARMS rate schools. I just don't see how they are going to create any diversity with those schools....they look pretty protected to me. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/InteractiveLegend/index.html?appid=bf5860e2422b4816970eb80960f8019c&fbclid=IwAR0tlyWCuePkw9oJ3Wemm-jWQ7XUFLZ07awWNytnq2WhjUGBJ5oPH8CUcm4

Fascinating map, thanks for sharing.

Is it? Did anyone dispute that the poor minorities lived on the east side of town? Did anyone dispute that when there are concentrations of poor people that people with money avoid that area? When the rich flood to an area prices go up and poor people can’t move there so the select the cheap side of town. Those areas get more poverty which causes flight and here we are

DP.. yes, it is a fascinating map. Visuals are always better than words. It also shows that there are a couple of clusters where the FARMs rate is more equitable- those that are about 20 to 30%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both maps are great but they are hard to read with so much info on it and
once one turns off certain features then it is not complete picture.

There's this heat map:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both maps are great but they are hard to read with so much info on it and
once one turns off certain features then it is not complete picture.

There's this heat map:

All this time, folks have been saying push the low income kids west. The above map indicates that we should be pushing the wealthier side eastwards. The western side schools are over capacity (except Wootton cluster). Instead of spending millions to build new schools and additions, why didn't MCPS redraw boundaries earlier? Clearly, the eastern side has more capacity. Look at how many school clusters are green, meaning very much under capacity.

Yes, I know redrawing boundaries is a PIA, and people don't like it. But MCPS is responsible for making sure that schools are not over capacity, and common sense would dictate that when you have some clusters that are over capacity, and others under capacity, they should redraw the boundary maps. I don't understand why they needed to pay a consultant $500K to figure this out. The map is pretty obvious.

The danger of building new schools when we already have schools that are under capacity is that if the population shifts, MCPS will end up having to close schools in the future. Basically, some of the new build would've been a waste of money.

Here's a perfect example:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/InteractiveLegend/index.html?appid=bf5860e2422b4816970eb80960f8019c&fbclid=IwAR0tlyWCuePkw9oJ3Wemm-jWQ7XUFLZ07awWNytnq2WhjUGBJ5oPH8CUcm4

Based on that map, there is a small section in red west of 270 that is closer to Wootton, but it is zoned for Gaithersburg. Wootton is under capacity. Why the heck is that area still zoned for Gaithersburg, a cluster that is over capacity. This is a perfect example of a simple solution of rezoning that area to Wootton.

Another example: there's a small section east of the pike that is zoned for WJ, a cluster that is over capacity. But the area could easily be zoned for Rockville HS, an under capacity cluster. Same for RM, and over capacity school.

Portions of Gaithersburg HS cluster could be moved to Watkins Mill. Portions of Clarksburg could be rezoned for Damascus.

Portions of Einstein could go to Kennedy or Springbrook.

It's ridiculous that MCPS has not redrawn the boundaries earlier.

[Anonymous]

These maps are misleading because they project the average school information onto an entire geographic area, when in reality the SES and density of each region is highly varied within it. For example, all of Laytonsville elementary is not 37-48% FARMS. The majority of that land is 3000 sq ft homes on 2+ acres. In order to make any real sense of what is happening and why, you need data at the neighborhood level, which is what the boundary analysis will provide.

[Anonymous]

Both of these last two posts are implying that they might change ES boundaries. From what I’ve heard, that isn’t on the table.. is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both maps are great but they are hard to read with so much info on it and
once one turns off certain features then it is not complete picture.

There's this heat map:

All this time, folks have been saying push the low income kids west. The above map indicates that we should be pushing the wealthier side eastwards. The western side schools are over capacity (except Wootton cluster). Instead of spending millions to build new schools and additions, why didn't MCPS redraw boundaries earlier? Clearly, the eastern side has more capacity. Look at how many school clusters are green, meaning very much under capacity.

Yes, I know redrawing boundaries is a PIA, and people don't like it. But MCPS is responsible for making sure that schools are not over capacity, and common sense would dictate that when you have some clusters that are over capacity, and others under capacity, they should redraw the boundary maps. I don't understand why they needed to pay a consultant $500K to figure this out. The map is pretty obvious.

The danger of building new schools when we already have schools that are under capacity is that if the population shifts, MCPS will end up having to close schools in the future. Basically, some of the new build would've been a waste of money.

Here's a perfect example:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/InteractiveLegend/index.html?appid=bf5860e2422b4816970eb80960f8019c&fbclid=IwAR0tlyWCuePkw9oJ3Wemm-jWQ7XUFLZ07awWNytnq2WhjUGBJ5oPH8CUcm4

Based on that map, there is a small section in red west of 270 that is closer to Wootton, but it is zoned for Gaithersburg. Wootton is under capacity. Why the heck is that area still zoned for Gaithersburg, a cluster that is over capacity. This is a perfect example of a simple solution of rezoning that area to Wootton.

Another example: there's a small section east of the pike that is zoned for WJ, a cluster that is over capacity. But the area could easily be zoned for Rockville HS, an under capacity cluster. Same for RM, and over capacity school.

Portions of Gaithersburg HS cluster could be moved to Watkins Mill. Portions of Clarksburg could be rezoned for Damascus.

Portions of Einstein could go to Kennedy or Springbrook.

It's ridiculous that MCPS has not redrawn the boundaries earlier.

I notice the one example you state has people winning by going to a better school instead of Gaithersburg. Good luck picking 10% of the successful schools and sending them East. Better pick the poor families as it don’t see a way anybody with any money would go to Einstein from WJ, reg Blair from BCC or Churchill to any other school save maybe Whitman.

You are simply being a little too flippant when talking about people losing money and sending their kids to a place they don’t approve of. I get all the DCC parents being ecstatic as they have nothing to lose and like nothing more than sticking to the people who they think look down on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody recently made this version which overlays FARMS percentages in clusters. It is quite telling, and you can see where there can be some movement. It is pretty obvious which schools will be tough to bus due to long commutes to higher FARMS rate schools. I just don't see how they are going to create any diversity with those schools....they look pretty protected to me. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/InteractiveLegend/index.html?appid=bf5860e2422b4816970eb80960f8019c&fbclid=IwAR0tlyWCuePkw9oJ3Wemm-jWQ7XUFLZ07awWNytnq2WhjUGBJ5oPH8CUcm4

Fascinating map, thanks for sharing.

Is it? Did anyone dispute that the poor minorities lived on the east side of town? Did anyone dispute that when there are concentrations of poor people that people with money avoid that area? When the rich flood to an area prices go up and poor people can’t move there so the select the cheap side of town. Those areas get more poverty which causes flight and here we are

DP.. yes, it is a fascinating map. Visuals are always better than words. It also shows that there are a couple of clusters where the FARMs rate is more equitable- those that are about 20 to 30%.

But that isn’t equitable either, there is more than 20-30% fARMs