Tell me about St Andrews in Scotland

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disgruntled parents on this thread are comical and uninformed.

St Andrews is consistently top 3 in the UK for graduate prospectus and student satisfaction across multiple rankings. Bottom line: students are getting good outcomes and lauding their university experience. What else do you need?

Its a great option for a mature student, the rise in ranking ruffles the feathers of the old guard, but deserves the rankings and provides a quality education at a reasonable price for international students.

reliable ranking services (not british tabloids) like USNWR havecit at 394 in the world

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disgruntled parents on this thread are comical and uninformed.

St Andrews is consistently top 3 in the UK for graduate prospectus and student satisfaction across multiple rankings. Bottom line: students are getting good outcomes and lauding their university experience. What else do you need?

Its a great option for a mature student, the rise in ranking ruffles the feathers of the old guard, but deserves the rankings and provides a quality education at a reasonable price for international students.

reliable ranking services (not british tabloids) like USNWR havecit at 394 in the world

"reliable"
Glad to hear today they're reliable. Can't wait to see how "reliable" they are next month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:St. Andrews is the Northeastern of the UK.

Queen Mary University is the Northeastern of the UK.

Queen Mary is ranked 92 in USNWR global but ST andrews is 394

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:St. Andrews is the Northeastern of the UK.

Comical. No evidence to back this, only evidence to refute it.

Marketing, my dear, the teo heavily market. The problem with St Andrews is that it takes big bucks from naive American parents but the. disappears when the child needs support thst would be the norm in the US

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a Fortune 500 company and have recruited at MBB consulting firms (McKinsey, BCG, Bain) and investment banking positions.

St Andrews is considered the same prestige as a low ivy.

Don’t listen to the disgruntled parents or the pretentious Oxford students.

Talk about damning with faint praise!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disgruntled parents on this thread are comical and uninformed.

St Andrews is consistently top 3 in the UK for graduate prospectus and student satisfaction across multiple rankings. Bottom line: students are getting good outcomes and lauding their university experience. What else do you need?

Actual prestige. My kid is at Oxford and says students there think St. Andrews and its machine to glomb onto American students and their American dollars is embarrassing to higher ed there. It's viewed there somewhat like Northeastern is here by serious academics.

Why on earth would they think it’s embarrassing? Strange. British universities are in a huge funding crisis but at least St Andrews has figured it out somewhat. If anything, I imagine other top tier universities are looking at their model and wondering how to emulate at least some of its successes.

Not to mention somewhat hypocritical given 25% of undergrads and 65% of postgrads at Oxford are international students.

The best graduate students in the world from 160 countries and the colonies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disgruntled parents on this thread are comical and uninformed.

St Andrews is consistently top 3 in the UK for graduate prospectus and student satisfaction across multiple rankings. Bottom line: students are getting good outcomes and lauding their university experience. What else do you need?

Actual prestige. My kid is at Oxford and says students there think St. Andrews and its machine to glomb onto American students and their American dollars is embarrassing to higher ed there. It's viewed there somewhat like Northeastern is here by serious academics.

Why on earth would they think it’s embarrassing? Strange. British universities are in a huge funding crisis but at least St Andrews has figured it out somewhat. If anything, I imagine other top tier universities are looking at their model and wondering how to emulate at least some of its successes.

Not Oxbridge. But if you go to wiki and read up on St Andrews's financial problems you will see it goes back a long ways. And that the push for the Anerican dollar began in earnest in 1984

[Anonymous]

How can there be 57 pages of material about a middling Scottish university?

[Anonymous]

The uninformed commentary here is diabolical. Do your own research and look at previous posts on this thread.

The reason St Andrews is ranked highly on the UK rankings yet poorly on the global rankings is because global rankings place a larger emphasis on publications/graduate programs. St Andrews has very few postgraduates its main focus is undergraduate studies. Brown also does very poorly on the international rankings compared to other US schools that are far less prestigious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The disgruntled parents on this thread are comical and uninformed.

St Andrews is consistently top 3 in the UK for graduate prospectus and student satisfaction across multiple rankings. Bottom line: students are getting good outcomes and lauding their university experience. What else do you need?

only in one newspaper. That is all. The USNWR gold standard has it at 384. What are you going to believe? One newspaper article writtten by one person (to generate advertising and revenues) or USNWR which has been around since the early 80s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disgruntled parents on this thread are comical and uninformed.

St Andrews is consistently top 3 in the UK for graduate prospectus and student satisfaction across multiple rankings. Bottom line: students are getting good outcomes and lauding their university experience. What else do you need?

only in one newspaper. That is all. The USNWR gold standard has it at 384. What are you going to believe? One newspaper article writtten by one person (to generate advertising and revenues) or USNWR which has been around since the early 80s

Right...
Do you work for US News? The opinion of any third-rate magazine that couldn't afford to stay in print means little.

[Anonymous]

lol...US News the gold standard...okey dokey

[Anonymous]

Can we agree that all omnibus rankings are cr@p?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disgruntled parents on this thread are comical and uninformed.

St Andrews is consistently top 3 in the UK for graduate prospectus and student satisfaction across multiple rankings. Bottom line: students are getting good outcomes and lauding their university experience. What else do you need?

only in one newspaper. That is all. The USNWR gold standard has it at 384. What are you going to believe? One newspaper article writtten by one person (to generate advertising and revenues) or USNWR which has been around since the early 80s

On USNWR Dartmouth is ranked #320, Brown is ranked #153.. yet UC San Diego is ranked #21 and UNC is ranked #47...

The reason St Andrews is ranked highly on the UK rankings yet poorly on the global rankings is because global rankings place a larger emphasis on publications/graduate programs. St Andrews has very few postgraduates its main focus is undergraduate studies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a Fortune 500 company and have recruited at MBB consulting firms (McKinsey, BCG, Bain) and investment banking positions.

St Andrews is considered the same prestige as a low ivy.

Don’t listen to the disgruntled parents or the pretentious Oxford students.

Who maybe, just maybe, know more about British views and ranking than some old american college recruiter for a Fortune 500
company