Why are people so upset about Common Core?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It's hardly just NY, although it is particularly bad there. I'm in the Midwest, and Common Core is dreadful there as well.

Which Common Core State standard seems to be giving kids in "the Midwest" trouble?

Link to the standards here:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Are your Midwestern kids having trouble with math standards or language arts standards?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's hardly just NY, although it is particularly bad there. I'm in the Midwest, and Common Core is dreadful there as well.

Which Common Core State standard seems to be giving kids in "the Midwest" trouble?

Link to the standards here:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Are your Midwestern kids having trouble with math standards or language arts standards?

I read online that Midwestern kids are having a hard time learning their times tables. That standard is here, and a lot of kids in the midwest come from the kind of homes where this kind of memorization is hard for them. They are upset and anxious because they have to learn all their times table facts, fluently by the end of third grade, and it is really giving the kids and parents headaches.

CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.3.OA.C.7
Fluently multiply and divide within 100, using strategies such as the relationship between multiplication and division (e.g., knowing that 8 × 5 = 40, one knows 40 ÷ 5 = 8) or properties of operations. By the end of Grade 3, know from memory all products of two one-digit numbers.

Prior to Common Core, Midwestern kids were expected to use calculators to multiply. That was a lot easier.

I hear Glenn Beck is all over this situation. Free the Midwest from unreasonable Common Core multiplication fact mastery!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that teachers excuse other teachers for sending home error ridden worksheets.

My daughter's teacher creates her own material on a daily basis as a way of enlivening the curriculum and in addition to the suggested materials purchased by the country. SOme come from online sources, but she makes a lot herself. (That's the "freedom to be creative" piece people are so worried will be lost with national standards.) If there are a few typos I am not going to get my panties in a wad.

If a published curriculum were riddled with errors, I would expect that material not to be used, and I would find fault with a school district that allowed it to be purchased and used. I would not find fault with a teacher for sending home work from a required text.

The few examples we have seen here from New York State (math curriculum questions that are confusing) I would find unacceptable if they were assigned on a daily basis by an individual teacher. If they are part of an official curriculum adopted by a school district, I would be contacting that school district and holding it accountable for adopting this textbook as there are better ones out there.

If I created a manual for software and that software's manual was being tested and contained errors to the point where it confused the testers, I would be held responsible - and rightfully so. If a teacher sends home a worksheet with errors that frustrates a child and upsets the peace of the household, you darn well should 'get your panties in a wad'.

Unreal - no personal responsibility demonstrated at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's hardly just NY, although it is particularly bad there. I'm in the Midwest, and Common Core is dreadful there as well.

Which Common Core State standard seems to be giving kids in "the Midwest" trouble?

Link to the standards here:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Are your Midwestern kids having trouble with math standards or language arts standards?

Is this a veiled 'Midwesterners are stupid?' Comment. Let me guess: you are a liberal democrat from DC or MD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's hardly just NY, although it is particularly bad there. I'm in the Midwest, and Common Core is dreadful there as well.

Which Common Core State standard seems to be giving kids in "the Midwest" trouble?

Link to the standards here:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Are your Midwestern kids having trouble with math standards or language arts standards?

Is this a veiled 'Midwesterners are stupid?' Comment. Let me guess: you are a liberal democrat from DC or MD

I'm not the PP, but I'm was born and raised in a state in the Midwest, and I would like to know the answers to these questions too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that teachers excuse other teachers for sending home error ridden worksheets.

My daughter's teacher creates her own material on a daily basis as a way of enlivening the curriculum and in addition to the suggested materials purchased by the country. SOme come from online sources, but she makes a lot herself. (That's the "freedom to be creative" piece people are so worried will be lost with national standards.) If there are a few typos I am not going to get my panties in a wad.

If a published curriculum were riddled with errors, I would expect that material not to be used, and I would find fault with a school district that allowed it to be purchased and used. I would not find fault with a teacher for sending home work from a required text.

The few examples we have seen here from New York State (math curriculum questions that are confusing) I would find unacceptable if they were assigned on a daily basis by an individual teacher. If they are part of an official curriculum adopted by a school district, I would be contacting that school district and holding it accountable for adopting this textbook as there are better ones out there.

If I created a manual for software and that software's manual was being tested and contained errors to the point where it confused the testers, I would be held responsible - and rightfully so. If a teacher sends home a worksheet with errors that frustrates a child and upsets the peace of the household, you darn well should 'get your panties in a wad'.

Unreal - no personal responsibility demonstrated at all.

Who is not demonstrating personal responsibility here? I am confused.

[Anonymous]

A lot of this depends on the principal. Some principals want all their teachers doing exactly the same thing at the same time if they are on the same grade level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that teachers excuse other teachers for sending home error ridden worksheets.

My daughter's teacher creates her own material on a daily basis as a way of enlivening the curriculum and in addition to the suggested materials purchased by the country. SOme come from online sources, but she makes a lot herself. (That's the "freedom to be creative" piece people are so worried will be lost with national standards.) If there are a few typos I am not going to get my panties in a wad.

If a published curriculum were riddled with errors, I would expect that material not to be used, and I would find fault with a school district that allowed it to be purchased and used. I would not find fault with a teacher for sending home work from a required text.

The few examples we have seen here from New York State (math curriculum questions that are confusing) I would find unacceptable if they were assigned on a daily basis by an individual teacher. If they are part of an official curriculum adopted by a school district, I would be contacting that school district and holding it accountable for adopting this textbook as there are better ones out there.

If I created a manual for software and that software's manual was being tested and contained errors to the point where it confused the testers, I would be held responsible - and rightfully so. If a teacher sends home a worksheet with errors that frustrates a child and upsets the peace of the household, you darn well should 'get your panties in a wad'.

Unreal - no personal responsibility demonstrated at all.

You don't see the difference between a software manual being prepared for publication (presumably within a timeframe of a month or more) and a teacher creating worksheets every day for her class to take home at night???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's hardly just NY, although it is particularly bad there. I'm in the Midwest, and Common Core is dreadful there as well.

Which Common Core State standard seems to be giving kids in "the Midwest" trouble?

Link to the standards here:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Are your Midwestern kids having trouble with math standards or language arts standards?

Is this a veiled 'Midwesterners are stupid?' Comment. Let me guess: you are a liberal democrat from DC or MD

No I don't think Midwesterners are stupid. I am asking the poster who said "Common Core is dreadful in the Midwest" to identify which of the Common Core standards are giving kids out there so much trouble?

[Anonymous]

(Because as it has been well established, "Common Core" is a list of standards. So if "Common Core" is dreadful, then it must be a standard that is dreadful.

So look up the standards, and tell us which one or ones are particularly dreadful, for Midwestern children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's hardly just NY, although it is particularly bad there. I'm in the Midwest, and Common Core is dreadful there as well.

Which Common Core State standard seems to be giving kids in "the Midwest" trouble?

Link to the standards here:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Are your Midwestern kids having trouble with math standards or language arts standards?

I read online that Midwestern kids are having a hard time learning their times tables. That standard is here, and a lot of kids in the midwest come from the kind of homes where this kind of memorization is hard for them. They are upset and anxious because they have to learn all their times table facts, fluently by the end of third grade, and it is really giving the kids and parents headaches.

CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.3.OA.C.7
Fluently multiply and divide within 100, using strategies such as the relationship between multiplication and division (e.g., knowing that 8 × 5 = 40, one knows 40 ÷ 5 = 8) or properties of operations. By the end of Grade 3, know from memory all products of two one-digit numbers.

Prior to Common Core, Midwestern kids were expected to use calculators to multiply. That was a lot easier.

I hear Glenn Beck is all over this situation. Free the Midwest from unreasonable Common Core multiplication fact mastery!

Well, I can see the snobbish asshole factor is alive and well on the DCUM.

Signed, a Midwest Obama vote and CC despiser who never listens to Glenn Beck

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's hardly just NY, although it is particularly bad there. I'm in the Midwest, and Common Core is dreadful there as well.

Which Common Core State standard seems to be giving kids in "the Midwest" trouble?

Link to the standards here:

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

Are your Midwestern kids having trouble with math standards or language arts standards?

I read online that Midwestern kids are having a hard time learning their times tables. That standard is here, and a lot of kids in the midwest come from the kind of homes where this kind of memorization is hard for them. They are upset and anxious because they have to learn all their times table facts, fluently by the end of third grade, and it is really giving the kids and parents headaches.

CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.3.OA.C.7
Fluently multiply and divide within 100, using strategies such as the relationship between multiplication and division (e.g., knowing that 8 × 5 = 40, one knows 40 ÷ 5 = 8) or properties of operations. By the end of Grade 3, know from memory all products of two one-digit numbers.

Prior to Common Core, Midwestern kids were expected to use calculators to multiply. That was a lot easier.

I hear Glenn Beck is all over this situation. Free the Midwest from unreasonable Common Core multiplication fact mastery!

Well, I can see the snobbish asshole factor is alive and well on the DCUM.

Signed, a Midwest Obama vote and CC despiser who never listens to Glenn Beck

You don't recognize snark when you see it??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that teachers excuse other teachers for sending home error ridden worksheets.

My daughter's teacher creates her own material on a daily basis as a way of enlivening the curriculum and in addition to the suggested materials purchased by the country. SOme come from online sources, but she makes a lot herself. (That's the "freedom to be creative" piece people are so worried will be lost with national standards.) If there are a few typos I am not going to get my panties in a wad.

If a published curriculum were riddled with errors, I would expect that material not to be used, and I would find fault with a school district that allowed it to be purchased and used. I would not find fault with a teacher for sending home work from a required text.

The few examples we have seen here from New York State (math curriculum questions that are confusing) I would find unacceptable if they were assigned on a daily basis by an individual teacher. If they are part of an official curriculum adopted by a school district, I would be contacting that school district and holding it accountable for adopting this textbook as there are better ones out there.

If I created a manual for software and that software's manual was being tested and contained errors to the point where it confused the testers, I would be held responsible - and rightfully so. If a teacher sends home a worksheet with errors that frustrates a child and upsets the peace of the household, you darn well should 'get your panties in a wad'.

Unreal - no personal responsibility demonstrated at all.

Who is not demonstrating personal responsibility here? I am confused.

By stating that you wouldn't get your panties in a wad over a few typos, I feel you are not demonstrating the concept of personal responsibility. Those "few typos" can melt down a child who is trying hard to understand the assignment, which then sets the tone for homework. Add to this, the frustration of parents trying to understand what the hell is wanted from the kid on the worksheet, and you get one pissed parent. And the teacher then has the nerve to feel 'slighted' when the parents get upset.

All because the teacher could not be bothered to check the work she was sending home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:(Because as it has been well established, "Common Core" is a list of standards. So if "Common Core" is dreadful, then it must be a standard that is dreadful.

So look up the standards, and tell us which one or ones are particularly dreadful, for Midwestern children.

It is clear this is a drum teachers beat. BYW? Beck covers this type of mentality.

Standards need implementation. If the implementation is poor, the kids don't learn the standards. So the standards the become moot, whether they are 'poor' or not.

But since public school teachers have not held a job outside of government, I do understand this might be a hard concept to understand for y'all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:(Because as it has been well established, "Common Core" is a list of standards. So if "Common Core" is dreadful, then it must be a standard that is dreadful.

So look up the standards, and tell us which one or ones are particularly dreadful, for Midwestern children.

The Myths that AFT's is pushing re: Common Core:

http://deutsch29.wordpress.com/2013/12/31/afts-10-myths-unyielding-devotion-to-the-common-core/