Boundaries assessment update 2023

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Anonymous wrote:Round and round for years, and Western Great Falls is still zoned for Langley.

Perhaps the new board will shock us all, but not likely.

Maybe, because it makes sense to keep kids at Langley? And, Herndon is hardly under enrolled. 2000+ at Langley and 2300+ at Herndon does not call for a change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Round and round for years, and Western Great Falls is still zoned for Langley.

Perhaps the new board will shock us all, but not likely.

Maybe, because it makes sense to keep kids at Langley? And, Herndon is hardly under enrolled. 2000+ at Langley and 2300+ at Herndon does not call for a change.

Under-enrollment is measured against capacity and by that measure Herndon is now under-enrolled.

And there are certainly areas closer to Langley than frickin western Great Falls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Round and round for years, and Western Great Falls is still zoned for Langley.

Perhaps the new board will shock us all, but not likely.

Maybe, because it makes sense to keep kids at Langley? And, Herndon is hardly under enrolled. 2000+ at Langley and 2300+ at Herndon does not call for a change.

Under-enrollment is measured against capacity and by that measure Herndon is now under-enrolled.

And there are certainly areas closer to Langley than frickin western Great Falls.

So, you want to make Herndon over capacity? Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they take a fresh look at how they are spending the capital budget and whether a 3% FARMS high school with a boundary adjacent to a 50% FARMS high school is even remotely consistent with their commitment to equity, it will be an improvement.

Also, they would gain instant credibility if they dealt with the "plan" for a "new western HS" once and for all. Kill it if it's not happening and take it out of the next Capital Improvement Program entirely; set up a dedicated web page that tracks the steps being taken to make it happen if it's not a joke.

No one has yet shown how this could be done.

Agree on the rest of your comment. But, I think the big cog in the wheel was when they gave away the Carson site for the Western High school.
And, then came up with Hutchison site which is absolutely a terrible, terrible idea on so many levels.

Maybe that's part of the issue. They didn't want to admit they screwed the pooch by transferring the site near Carson to the Saudis so they've engaged in the fiction for years they'll be able to find some other suitable site. Meanwhile they continue to expand schools, which makes it less likely a new school is needed, and it only becomes harder over time to identify an appropriate alternative site. And by the time they deal with reality those responsible for the transfer will be drawing a pension and/or enjoying life on a beach.

I suspect there was GREAT pressure to release the Carson site to the Saudis from way above the School Board. It was supposed to be built in Burke and the community reacted. When they gave the Carson site to the Saudis there was NO community involvement for those living near Carson. NONE! I suspect the BOS made the decision--not the SB. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the State Dept did not play a hand in this.

Well any BOS and SB from Mount Vernon and Lee wanted the Saudis out of the Old Mount Vernon HS so it could be turned into a community center. Corbett Sanders worked on that pre running the school board. Gross-D-Mason BOS was the only one to say where's the special tax district? Chantilly- based on location people are stuck politically since the school is in Springfield and mst students are from Sully. Forestville Elementary and the Langley feed? Forestville has many feeder streets with Herndon addresses as well as Reston and maybe still some Vienna. It's not just those with Great Falls addresses especially the west of Georgetown Pike intersection with 7 access roads.

Funny thng happened years ago- new developement with Vienna P.O. Sent to a South Lakes pyramid school. Snow plowing necessitated removiing the concrete barricade in the street tthat was extended for the new homes- after that could drive in older dev to new dev. Older ended up at Colvin Run from Forestville.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they take a fresh look at how they are spending the capital budget and whether a 3% FARMS high school with a boundary adjacent to a 50% FARMS high school is even remotely consistent with their commitment to equity, it will be an improvement.

Also, they would gain instant credibility if they dealt with the "plan" for a "new western HS" once and for all. Kill it if it's not happening and take it out of the next Capital Improvement Program entirely; set up a dedicated web page that tracks the steps being taken to make it happen if it's not a joke.

No one has yet shown how this could be done.

Agree on the rest of your comment. But, I think the big cog in the wheel was when they gave away the Carson site for the Western High school.
And, then came up with Hutchison site which is absolutely a terrible, terrible idea on so many levels.

Maybe that's part of the issue. They didn't want to admit they screwed the pooch by transferring the site near Carson to the Saudis so they've engaged in the fiction for years they'll be able to find some other suitable site. Meanwhile they continue to expand schools, which makes it less likely a new school is needed, and it only becomes harder over time to identify an appropriate alternative site. And by the time they deal with reality those responsible for the transfer will be drawing a pension and/or enjoying life on a beach.

I suspect there was GREAT pressure to release the Carson site to the Saudis from way above the School Board. It was supposed to be built in Burke and the community reacted. When they gave the Carson site to the Saudis there was NO community involvement for those living near Carson. NONE! I suspect the BOS made the decision--not the SB. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the State Dept did not play a hand in this.

Well any BOS and SB from Mount Vernon and Lee wanted the Saudis out of the Old Mount Vernon HS so it could be turned into a community center. Corbett Sanders worked on that pre running the school board. Gross-D-Mason BOS was the only one to say where's the special tax district? Chantilly- based on location people are stuck politically since the school is in Springfield and mst students are from Sully. Forestville Elementary and the Langley feed? Forestville has many feeder streets with Herndon addresses as well as Reston and maybe still some Vienna. It's not just those with Great Falls addresses especially the west of Georgetown Pike intersection with 7 access roads.

Funny thng happened years ago- new developement with Vienna P.O. Sent to a South Lakes pyramid school. Snow plowing necessitated removiing the concrete barricade in the street tthat was extended for the new homes- after that could drive in older dev to new dev. Older ended up at Colvin Run from Forestville.

So, you are suggesting that they make Forestville a split feeder?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Round and round for years, and Western Great Falls is still zoned for Langley.

Perhaps the new board will shock us all, but not likely.

Maybe, because it makes sense to keep kids at Langley? And, Herndon is hardly under enrolled. 2000+ at Langley and 2300+ at Herndon does not call for a change.

Under-enrollment is measured against capacity and by that measure Herndon is now under-enrolled.

And there are certainly areas closer to Langley than frickin western Great Falls.

So, you want to make Herndon over capacity? Got it.

What a stupid comment. It is below capacity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Round and round for years, and Western Great Falls is still zoned for Langley.

Perhaps the new board will shock us all, but not likely.

Maybe, because it makes sense to keep kids at Langley? And, Herndon is hardly under enrolled. 2000+ at Langley and 2300+ at Herndon does not call for a change.

Under-enrollment is measured against capacity and by that measure Herndon is now under-enrolled.

And there are certainly areas closer to Langley than frickin western Great Falls.

So, you want to make Herndon over capacity? Got it.

What a stupid comment. It is below capacity.

If you add another elementary school, Herndon will be over capacity. You don't understand that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they take a fresh look at how they are spending the capital budget and whether a 3% FARMS high school with a boundary adjacent to a 50% FARMS high school is even remotely consistent with their commitment to equity, it will be an improvement.

Also, they would gain instant credibility if they dealt with the "plan" for a "new western HS" once and for all. Kill it if it's not happening and take it out of the next Capital Improvement Program entirely; set up a dedicated web page that tracks the steps being taken to make it happen if it's not a joke.

No one has yet shown how this could be done.

Agree on the rest of your comment. But, I think the big cog in the wheel was when they gave away the Carson site for the Western High school.
And, then came up with Hutchison site which is absolutely a terrible, terrible idea on so many levels.

Maybe that's part of the issue. They didn't want to admit they screwed the pooch by transferring the site near Carson to the Saudis so they've engaged in the fiction for years they'll be able to find some other suitable site. Meanwhile they continue to expand schools, which makes it less likely a new school is needed, and it only becomes harder over time to identify an appropriate alternative site. And by the time they deal with reality those responsible for the transfer will be drawing a pension and/or enjoying life on a beach.

I suspect there was GREAT pressure to release the Carson site to the Saudis from way above the School Board. It was supposed to be built in Burke and the community reacted. When they gave the Carson site to the Saudis there was NO community involvement for those living near Carson. NONE! I suspect the BOS made the decision--not the SB. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the State Dept did not play a hand in this.

Well any BOS and SB from Mount Vernon and Lee wanted the Saudis out of the Old Mount Vernon HS so it could be turned into a community center. Corbett Sanders worked on that pre running the school board. Gross-D-Mason BOS was the only one to say where's the special tax district? Chantilly- based on location people are stuck politically since the school is in Springfield and mst students are from Sully. Forestville Elementary and the Langley feed? Forestville has many feeder streets with Herndon addresses as well as Reston and maybe still some Vienna. It's not just those with Great Falls addresses especially the west of Georgetown Pike intersection with 7 access roads.

Funny thng happened years ago- new developement with Vienna P.O. Sent to a South Lakes pyramid school. Snow plowing necessitated removiing the concrete barricade in the street tthat was extended for the new homes- after that could drive in older dev to new dev. Older ended up at Colvin Run from Forestville.

So, you are suggesting that they make Forestville a split feeder?

Oh no, a split feeder!

Move all of Forestville to Herndon and there won’t be a split feeder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they take a fresh look at how they are spending the capital budget and whether a 3% FARMS high school with a boundary adjacent to a 50% FARMS high school is even remotely consistent with their commitment to equity, it will be an improvement.

Also, they would gain instant credibility if they dealt with the "plan" for a "new western HS" once and for all. Kill it if it's not happening and take it out of the next Capital Improvement Program entirely; set up a dedicated web page that tracks the steps being taken to make it happen if it's not a joke.

No one has yet shown how this could be done.

Agree on the rest of your comment. But, I think the big cog in the wheel was when they gave away the Carson site for the Western High school.
And, then came up with Hutchison site which is absolutely a terrible, terrible idea on so many levels.

Maybe that's part of the issue. They didn't want to admit they screwed the pooch by transferring the site near Carson to the Saudis so they've engaged in the fiction for years they'll be able to find some other suitable site. Meanwhile they continue to expand schools, which makes it less likely a new school is needed, and it only becomes harder over time to identify an appropriate alternative site. And by the time they deal with reality those responsible for the transfer will be drawing a pension and/or enjoying life on a beach.

I suspect there was GREAT pressure to release the Carson site to the Saudis from way above the School Board. It was supposed to be built in Burke and the community reacted. When they gave the Carson site to the Saudis there was NO community involvement for those living near Carson. NONE! I suspect the BOS made the decision--not the SB. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the State Dept did not play a hand in this.

Well any BOS and SB from Mount Vernon and Lee wanted the Saudis out of the Old Mount Vernon HS so it could be turned into a community center. Corbett Sanders worked on that pre running the school board. Gross-D-Mason BOS was the only one to say where's the special tax district? Chantilly- based on location people are stuck politically since the school is in Springfield and mst students are from Sully. Forestville Elementary and the Langley feed? Forestville has many feeder streets with Herndon addresses as well as Reston and maybe still some Vienna. It's not just those with Great Falls addresses especially the west of Georgetown Pike intersection with 7 access roads.

Funny thng happened years ago- new developement with Vienna P.O. Sent to a South Lakes pyramid school. Snow plowing necessitated removiing the concrete barricade in the street tthat was extended for the new homes- after that could drive in older dev to new dev. Older ended up at Colvin Run from Forestville.

So, you are suggesting that they make Forestville a split feeder?

Oh no, a split feeder!

Move all of Forestville to Herndon and there won’t be a split feeder.

And, Herndon will be overcrowded and Langley even less enrolled. But, "equity."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they take a fresh look at how they are spending the capital budget and whether a 3% FARMS high school with a boundary adjacent to a 50% FARMS high school is even remotely consistent with their commitment to equity, it will be an improvement.

Also, they would gain instant credibility if they dealt with the "plan" for a "new western HS" once and for all. Kill it if it's not happening and take it out of the next Capital Improvement Program entirely; set up a dedicated web page that tracks the steps being taken to make it happen if it's not a joke.

No one has yet shown how this could be done.

Agree on the rest of your comment. But, I think the big cog in the wheel was when they gave away the Carson site for the Western High school.
And, then came up with Hutchison site which is absolutely a terrible, terrible idea on so many levels.

Maybe that's part of the issue. They didn't want to admit they screwed the pooch by transferring the site near Carson to the Saudis so they've engaged in the fiction for years they'll be able to find some other suitable site. Meanwhile they continue to expand schools, which makes it less likely a new school is needed, and it only becomes harder over time to identify an appropriate alternative site. And by the time they deal with reality those responsible for the transfer will be drawing a pension and/or enjoying life on a beach.

I suspect there was GREAT pressure to release the Carson site to the Saudis from way above the School Board. It was supposed to be built in Burke and the community reacted. When they gave the Carson site to the Saudis there was NO community involvement for those living near Carson. NONE! I suspect the BOS made the decision--not the SB. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the State Dept did not play a hand in this.

Well any BOS and SB from Mount Vernon and Lee wanted the Saudis out of the Old Mount Vernon HS so it could be turned into a community center. Corbett Sanders worked on that pre running the school board. Gross-D-Mason BOS was the only one to say where's the special tax district? Chantilly- based on location people are stuck politically since the school is in Springfield and mst students are from Sully. Forestville Elementary and the Langley feed? Forestville has many feeder streets with Herndon addresses as well as Reston and maybe still some Vienna. It's not just those with Great Falls addresses especially the west of Georgetown Pike intersection with 7 access roads.

Funny thng happened years ago- new developement with Vienna P.O. Sent to a South Lakes pyramid school. Snow plowing necessitated removiing the concrete barricade in the street tthat was extended for the new homes- after that could drive in older dev to new dev. Older ended up at Colvin Run from Forestville.

So, you are suggesting that they make Forestville a split feeder?

Oh no, a split feeder!

Move all of Forestville to Herndon and there won’t be a split feeder.

And, Herndon will be overcrowded and Langley even less enrolled. But, "equity."

Move areas closer to Langley in Reston and Tysons there. Common sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they take a fresh look at how they are spending the capital budget and whether a 3% FARMS high school with a boundary adjacent to a 50% FARMS high school is even remotely consistent with their commitment to equity, it will be an improvement.

Also, they would gain instant credibility if they dealt with the "plan" for a "new western HS" once and for all. Kill it if it's not happening and take it out of the next Capital Improvement Program entirely; set up a dedicated web page that tracks the steps being taken to make it happen if it's not a joke.

No one has yet shown how this could be done.

Agree on the rest of your comment. But, I think the big cog in the wheel was when they gave away the Carson site for the Western High school.
And, then came up with Hutchison site which is absolutely a terrible, terrible idea on so many levels.

Maybe that's part of the issue. They didn't want to admit they screwed the pooch by transferring the site near Carson to the Saudis so they've engaged in the fiction for years they'll be able to find some other suitable site. Meanwhile they continue to expand schools, which makes it less likely a new school is needed, and it only becomes harder over time to identify an appropriate alternative site. And by the time they deal with reality those responsible for the transfer will be drawing a pension and/or enjoying life on a beach.

I suspect there was GREAT pressure to release the Carson site to the Saudis from way above the School Board. It was supposed to be built in Burke and the community reacted. When they gave the Carson site to the Saudis there was NO community involvement for those living near Carson. NONE! I suspect the BOS made the decision--not the SB. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the State Dept did not play a hand in this.

Well any BOS and SB from Mount Vernon and Lee wanted the Saudis out of the Old Mount Vernon HS so it could be turned into a community center. Corbett Sanders worked on that pre running the school board. Gross-D-Mason BOS was the only one to say where's the special tax district? Chantilly- based on location people are stuck politically since the school is in Springfield and mst students are from Sully. Forestville Elementary and the Langley feed? Forestville has many feeder streets with Herndon addresses as well as Reston and maybe still some Vienna. It's not just those with Great Falls addresses especially the west of Georgetown Pike intersection with 7 access roads.

Funny thng happened years ago- new developement with Vienna P.O. Sent to a South Lakes pyramid school. Snow plowing necessitated removiing the concrete barricade in the street tthat was extended for the new homes- after that could drive in older dev to new dev. Older ended up at Colvin Run from Forestville.

So, you are suggesting that they make Forestville a split feeder?

Oh no, a split feeder!

Move all of Forestville to Herndon and there won’t be a split feeder.

And, Herndon will be overcrowded and Langley even less enrolled. But, "equity."

Move areas closer to Langley in Reston and Tysons there. Common sense.

That would still leave Herndon overcrowded. And, are you suggesting that you move kids from Reston to a school that is farther away? That makes no sense at all.

[Anonymous]

This thread will be more productive when the school board starts talking and planning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread will be more productive when the school board starts talking and planning.

The current board never stops talking but is largely incapable of planning. Maybe it will get better; hard to see how it could get much worse.

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Anonymous wrote:If they take a fresh look at how they are spending the capital budget and whether a 3% FARMS high school with a boundary adjacent to a 50% FARMS high school is even remotely consistent with their commitment to equity, it will be an improvement.

Also, they would gain instant credibility if they dealt with the "plan" for a "new western HS" once and for all. Kill it if it's not happening and take it out of the next Capital Improvement Program entirely; set up a dedicated web page that tracks the steps being taken to make it happen if it's not a joke.

No one has yet shown how this could be done.

Agree on the rest of your comment. But, I think the big cog in the wheel was when they gave away the Carson site for the Western High school.
And, then came up with Hutchison site which is absolutely a terrible, terrible idea on so many levels.

Maybe that's part of the issue. They didn't want to admit they screwed the pooch by transferring the site near Carson to the Saudis so they've engaged in the fiction for years they'll be able to find some other suitable site. Meanwhile they continue to expand schools, which makes it less likely a new school is needed, and it only becomes harder over time to identify an appropriate alternative site. And by the time they deal with reality those responsible for the transfer will be drawing a pension and/or enjoying life on a beach.

I suspect there was GREAT pressure to release the Carson site to the Saudis from way above the School Board. It was supposed to be built in Burke and the community reacted. When they gave the Carson site to the Saudis there was NO community involvement for those living near Carson. NONE! I suspect the BOS made the decision--not the SB. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the State Dept did not play a hand in this.

Well any BOS and SB from Mount Vernon and Lee wanted the Saudis out of the Old Mount Vernon HS so it could be turned into a community center. Corbett Sanders worked on that pre running the school board. Gross-D-Mason BOS was the only one to say where's the special tax district? Chantilly- based on location people are stuck politically since the school is in Springfield and mst students are from Sully. Forestville Elementary and the Langley feed? Forestville has many feeder streets with Herndon addresses as well as Reston and maybe still some Vienna. It's not just those with Great Falls addresses especially the west of Georgetown Pike intersection with 7 access roads.

Funny thng happened years ago- new developement with Vienna P.O. Sent to a South Lakes pyramid school. Snow plowing necessitated removiing the concrete barricade in the street tthat was extended for the new homes- after that could drive in older dev to new dev. Older ended up at Colvin Run from Forestville.

So, you are suggesting that they make Forestville a split feeder?

Oh no, a split feeder!

Move all of Forestville to Herndon and there won’t be a split feeder.

And, Herndon will be overcrowded and Langley even less enrolled. But, "equity."

Move areas closer to Langley in Reston and Tysons there. Common sense.

That would still leave Herndon overcrowded. And, are you suggesting that you move kids from Reston to a school that is farther away? That makes no sense at all.

What makes the least sense of all is continuing to bus kids all the way across the county to Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:If they take a fresh look at how they are spending the capital budget and whether a 3% FARMS high school with a boundary adjacent to a 50% FARMS high school is even remotely consistent with their commitment to equity, it will be an improvement.

Also, they would gain instant credibility if they dealt with the "plan" for a "new western HS" once and for all. Kill it if it's not happening and take it out of the next Capital Improvement Program entirely; set up a dedicated web page that tracks the steps being taken to make it happen if it's not a joke.

No one has yet shown how this could be done.

Agree on the rest of your comment. But, I think the big cog in the wheel was when they gave away the Carson site for the Western High school.
And, then came up with Hutchison site which is absolutely a terrible, terrible idea on so many levels.

Maybe that's part of the issue. They didn't want to admit they screwed the pooch by transferring the site near Carson to the Saudis so they've engaged in the fiction for years they'll be able to find some other suitable site. Meanwhile they continue to expand schools, which makes it less likely a new school is needed, and it only becomes harder over time to identify an appropriate alternative site. And by the time they deal with reality those responsible for the transfer will be drawing a pension and/or enjoying life on a beach.

I suspect there was GREAT pressure to release the Carson site to the Saudis from way above the School Board. It was supposed to be built in Burke and the community reacted. When they gave the Carson site to the Saudis there was NO community involvement for those living near Carson. NONE! I suspect the BOS made the decision--not the SB. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the State Dept did not play a hand in this.

Well any BOS and SB from Mount Vernon and Lee wanted the Saudis out of the Old Mount Vernon HS so it could be turned into a community center. Corbett Sanders worked on that pre running the school board. Gross-D-Mason BOS was the only one to say where's the special tax district? Chantilly- based on location people are stuck politically since the school is in Springfield and mst students are from Sully. Forestville Elementary and the Langley feed? Forestville has many feeder streets with Herndon addresses as well as Reston and maybe still some Vienna. It's not just those with Great Falls addresses especially the west of Georgetown Pike intersection with 7 access roads.

Funny thng happened years ago- new developement with Vienna P.O. Sent to a South Lakes pyramid school. Snow plowing necessitated removiing the concrete barricade in the street tthat was extended for the new homes- after that could drive in older dev to new dev. Older ended up at Colvin Run from Forestville.

So, you are suggesting that they make Forestville a split feeder?

Oh no, a split feeder!

Move all of Forestville to Herndon and there won’t be a split feeder.

And, Herndon will be overcrowded and Langley even less enrolled. But, "equity."

Move areas closer to Langley in Reston and Tysons there. Common sense.

That would still leave Herndon overcrowded. And, are you suggesting that you move kids from Reston to a school that is farther away? That makes no sense at all.

What makes the least sense of all is continuing to bus kids all the way across the county to Langley.

You can stay mad about it if that does something for you. :shrug: