Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Mmm, not sure about that. NYT sources are suspect. Could be someone intentionally left out of the loop. The prosecutors are not talking.

The committee slapped DOJ in the face.

Our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to Mr. Trump's administration or campaign whether they've been contacted by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony," Cheney continued.

The congresswoman then shared two samples of answers the panel received to that question, without identifying any of the involved parties.

In response to the examples—which were also shared in full on the committee's Twitter account—Congresswoman Marie Newman, D-Ill., who is not on the panel, said: "Witness intimidation. Clear as day.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/29/this-is-clear-witness-intimidation-jan-6-committee-teases-evidence-of-cover-up-effort_partner/

This is on going- ie is happening now. If this was a mob trial and witnesses were being intimidated do you think they would be sitting on their hands? This is ridiculous.

Why do you think they’re sitting on their hands?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Mmm, not sure about that. NYT sources are suspect. Could be someone intentionally left out of the loop. The prosecutors are not talking.

The committee slapped DOJ in the face.

Our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to Mr. Trump's administration or campaign whether they've been contacted by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony," Cheney continued.

The congresswoman then shared two samples of answers the panel received to that question, without identifying any of the involved parties.

In response to the examples—which were also shared in full on the committee's Twitter account—Congresswoman Marie Newman, D-Ill., who is not on the panel, said: "Witness intimidation. Clear as day.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/29/this-is-clear-witness-intimidation-jan-6-committee-teases-evidence-of-cover-up-effort_partner/

This is on going- ie is happening now. If this was a mob trial and witnesses were being intimidated do you think they would be sitting on their hands? This is ridiculous.

Why do you think they’re sitting on their hands?

np. I think it’s at the direction of the WH. Biden does not want to go down this route, not just on this issue but all others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Mmm, not sure about that. NYT sources are suspect. Could be someone intentionally left out of the loop. The prosecutors are not talking.

The committee slapped DOJ in the face.

Our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to Mr. Trump's administration or campaign whether they've been contacted by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony," Cheney continued.

The congresswoman then shared two samples of answers the panel received to that question, without identifying any of the involved parties.

In response to the examples—which were also shared in full on the committee's Twitter account—Congresswoman Marie Newman, D-Ill., who is not on the panel, said: "Witness intimidation. Clear as day.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/29/this-is-clear-witness-intimidation-jan-6-committee-teases-evidence-of-cover-up-effort_partner/

This is on going- ie is happening now. If this was a mob trial and witnesses were being intimidated do you think they would be sitting on their hands? This is ridiculous.

Why do you think they’re sitting on their hands?

np. I think it’s at the direction of the WH. Biden does not want to go down this route, not just on this issue but all others.

No, I highly highly doubt that. I think he’s happy to let DOJ move independently. He doesn’t want to touch any of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Mmm, not sure about that. NYT sources are suspect. Could be someone intentionally left out of the loop. The prosecutors are not talking.

The committee slapped DOJ in the face.

Our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to Mr. Trump's administration or campaign whether they've been contacted by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony," Cheney continued.

The congresswoman then shared two samples of answers the panel received to that question, without identifying any of the involved parties.

In response to the examples—which were also shared in full on the committee's Twitter account—Congresswoman Marie Newman, D-Ill., who is not on the panel, said: "Witness intimidation. Clear as day.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/29/this-is-clear-witness-intimidation-jan-6-committee-teases-evidence-of-cover-up-effort_partner/

This is on going- ie is happening now. If this was a mob trial and witnesses were being intimidated do you think they would be sitting on their hands? This is ridiculous.

Why do you think they’re sitting on their hands?

np. I think it’s at the direction of the WH. Biden does not want to go down this route, not just on this issue but all others.

I should have phrases my question differently: what makes you think they’re sitting on their hands?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Mmm, not sure about that. NYT sources are suspect. Could be someone intentionally left out of the loop. The prosecutors are not talking.

The committee slapped DOJ in the face.

Our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to Mr. Trump's administration or campaign whether they've been contacted by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony," Cheney continued.

The congresswoman then shared two samples of answers the panel received to that question, without identifying any of the involved parties.

In response to the examples—which were also shared in full on the committee's Twitter account—Congresswoman Marie Newman, D-Ill., who is not on the panel, said: "Witness intimidation. Clear as day.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/29/this-is-clear-witness-intimidation-jan-6-committee-teases-evidence-of-cover-up-effort_partner/

This is on going- ie is happening now. If this was a mob trial and witnesses were being intimidated do you think they would be sitting on their hands? This is ridiculous.

Why do you think they’re sitting on their hands?

np. I think it’s at the direction of the WH. Biden does not want to go down this route, not just on this issue but all others.

I should have phrases my question differently: what makes you think they’re sitting on their hands?

Witnesses have been and are being intimidated. This is an on going crime. The DOJ does not appear to know about it and has no plans to stop it. This means DOJ has no investigation. As to the Jan 6th, DOJ has not gone after any of these politically connected people. We would hear about grand juries, the trumpers would publicly attack DOJ, etc. DOJ has not prosecuted the republicans who choose to ignore congressional Subpoenas and not to testify. By doing this DOJ is not sitting on their hands they are actively stopping any investigation. DOJ just has to wait till republicans take back the House. After that everything ends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Mmm, not sure about that. NYT sources are suspect. Could be someone intentionally left out of the loop. The prosecutors are not talking.

The committee slapped DOJ in the face.

Our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to Mr. Trump's administration or campaign whether they've been contacted by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony," Cheney continued.

The congresswoman then shared two samples of answers the panel received to that question, without identifying any of the involved parties.

In response to the examples—which were also shared in full on the committee's Twitter account—Congresswoman Marie Newman, D-Ill., who is not on the panel, said: "Witness intimidation. Clear as day.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/29/this-is-clear-witness-intimidation-jan-6-committee-teases-evidence-of-cover-up-effort_partner/

This is on going- ie is happening now. If this was a mob trial and witnesses were being intimidated do you think they would be sitting on their hands? This is ridiculous.

Why do you think they’re sitting on their hands?

np. I think it’s at the direction of the WH. Biden does not want to go down this route, not just on this issue but all others.

I should have phrases my question differently: what makes you think they’re sitting on their hands?

Witnesses have been and are being intimidated. This is an on going crime. The DOJ does not appear to know about it and has no plans to stop it. This means DOJ has no investigation. As to the Jan 6th, DOJ has not gone after any of these politically connected people. We would hear about grand juries, the trumpers would publicly attack DOJ, etc. DOJ has not prosecuted the republicans who choose to ignore congressional Subpoenas and not to testify. By doing this DOJ is not sitting on their hands they are actively stopping any investigation. DOJ just has to wait till republicans take back the House. After that everything ends.

I think the Committee knows that the left a bunch of Trump loyalists in the DOJ hen house to this very day. Not even Cheney or Kinzinger are saying that info should be shared with DOJ, likely because they are afraid of leaks within DOJ.

Garland needs to clean house ASAP if the Committee cannot even trust the DOJ. Trump clearly broke the DOJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The secret service has a long history of lying.

Ornato and Engel can’t admit they told anyone what Trump did in the car because it’s a serious breach of security protocol to gossip about stupid shit that their protectees do and say. Discretion is more sacred than truth.

No, it’s not. Not when you’re watching an attempted coup play out. It sounds like even the secret service guys were in a pickle that day. Just like everyone else that worked in proximity to Trump. DOD officials, etc. The truth will set them all free.

Interesting that Pence was allowed to refuse to do what USSS wanted and Trump was not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Mmm, not sure about that. NYT sources are suspect. Could be someone intentionally left out of the loop. The prosecutors are not talking.

The committee slapped DOJ in the face.

Our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to Mr. Trump's administration or campaign whether they've been contacted by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony," Cheney continued.

The congresswoman then shared two samples of answers the panel received to that question, without identifying any of the involved parties.

In response to the examples—which were also shared in full on the committee's Twitter account—Congresswoman Marie Newman, D-Ill., who is not on the panel, said: "Witness intimidation. Clear as day.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/29/this-is-clear-witness-intimidation-jan-6-committee-teases-evidence-of-cover-up-effort_partner/

This is on going- ie is happening now. If this was a mob trial and witnesses were being intimidated do you think they would be sitting on their hands? This is ridiculous.

Why do you think they’re sitting on their hands?

np. I think it’s at the direction of the WH. Biden does not want to go down this route, not just on this issue but all others.

I should have phrases my question differently: what makes you think they’re sitting on their hands?

Witnesses have been and are being intimidated. This is an on going crime. The DOJ does not appear to know about it and has no plans to stop it. This means DOJ has no investigation. As to the Jan 6th, DOJ has not gone after any of these politically connected people. We would hear about grand juries, the trumpers would publicly attack DOJ, etc. DOJ has not prosecuted the republicans who choose to ignore congressional Subpoenas and not to testify. By doing this DOJ is not sitting on their hands they are actively stopping any investigation. DOJ just has to wait till republicans take back the House. After that everything ends.

I think the Committee knows that the left a bunch of Trump loyalists in the DOJ hen house to this very day. Not even Cheney or Kinzinger are saying that info should be shared with DOJ, likely because they are afraid of leaks within DOJ.

Garland needs to clean house ASAP if the Committee cannot even trust the DOJ. Trump clearly broke the DOJ.

No, that's not it.

DOJ doesn't want to have anything to do with anything political or with political crimes. But January 6 moved beyond political crimes and these hearings are showing everyone that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Mmm, not sure about that. NYT sources are suspect. Could be someone intentionally left out of the loop. The prosecutors are not talking.

Maybe the oil spill lawyers.

[Anonymous]

Hutchinson was provided a lawyer by Trump, but she wanted to tell the whole story. So her friend Alyssa Farah put her in touch with Liz Cheney, Hutchinson fired her Trumpland lawyer, and then gave her additional testimony.

So they not only threaten witnesses to prevent their testimony, they provide them lawyers who keep the witnesses from telling everything they know.

Alyssa Farah told the story this morning

[Anonymous]

why did these people work for these terrible humans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Yes, if the DOJ is too stupid to interview the Chief of Staff’s principal assistant who was in the middle of it all taking notes and answering and routing phone calls to and from her boss and GOP Members of Congress, what kind of investigation are they doing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The secret service has a long history of lying.

Ornato and Engel can’t admit they told anyone what Trump did in the car because it’s a serious breach of security protocol to gossip about stupid shit that their protectees do and say. Discretion is more sacred than truth.

No, it’s not. Not when you’re watching an attempted coup play out. It sounds like even the secret service guys were in a pickle that day. Just like everyone else that worked in proximity to Trump. DOD officials, etc. The truth will set them all free.

Interesting that Pence was allowed to refuse to do what USSS wanted and Trump was not.

Not really. Pence refused to move from doing his constitutional duty. Trump tried to force someone to drive him to an insurrection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just can’t believe Cassidy has been unemployed for 18 mos. Something fishy about that. Any evidence out there?

What's fishy? She's a deep red Republican who betrayed MAGA by cooperating with the committee for the past year, so neither the left nor the right would want to hire her. Plus her security has been threatened, so she probably has had to adjust her living conditions to account for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“The federal prosecutors working on the case watched the aide’s appearance before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and were just as astonished by her account of former President Donald J. Trump’s increasingly desperate bid to hold on to power as other viewers. The panel did not provide them with videos or transcripts of her taped interviews with committee members beforehand, according to several officials, leaving them feeling blindsided," The Times reported.”

I’m laughing at this right now. Maybe SOME DOJ officials were blindsided. Highly doubt the actual prosecutors on this were. NYT sources are highly suspect.

They are blindsided because they are not actually doing anything. Now they have to scramble because the committee gave proof of witness intimidation. Something DOJ is always saying is a big thing they will prosecute. Basically the committee is shaming DOJ in to doing something. DOJ is a joke. Do not look for DOJ to do anything.

Mmm, not sure about that. NYT sources are suspect. Could be someone intentionally left out of the loop. The prosecutors are not talking.

The committee slapped DOJ in the face.

Our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to Mr. Trump's administration or campaign whether they've been contacted by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony," Cheney continued.

The congresswoman then shared two samples of answers the panel received to that question, without identifying any of the involved parties.

In response to the examples—which were also shared in full on the committee's Twitter account—Congresswoman Marie Newman, D-Ill., who is not on the panel, said: "Witness intimidation. Clear as day.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/29/this-is-clear-witness-intimidation-jan-6-committee-teases-evidence-of-cover-up-effort_partner/

This is on going- ie is happening now. If this was a mob trial and witnesses were being intimidated do you think they would be sitting on their hands? This is ridiculous.

Why do you think they’re sitting on their hands?

np. I think it’s at the direction of the WH. Biden does not want to go down this route, not just on this issue but all others.

I should have phrases my question differently: what makes you think they’re sitting on their hands?

Witnesses have been and are being intimidated. This is an on going crime. The DOJ does not appear to know about it and has no plans to stop it. This means DOJ has no investigation. As to the Jan 6th, DOJ has not gone after any of these politically connected people. We would hear about grand juries, the trumpers would publicly attack DOJ, etc. DOJ has not prosecuted the republicans who choose to ignore congressional Subpoenas and not to testify. By doing this DOJ is not sitting on their hands they are actively stopping any investigation. DOJ just has to wait till republicans take back the House. After that everything ends.

I think the Committee knows that the left a bunch of Trump loyalists in the DOJ hen house to this very day. Not even Cheney or Kinzinger are saying that info should be shared with DOJ, likely because they are afraid of leaks within DOJ.

Garland needs to clean house ASAP if the Committee cannot even trust the DOJ. Trump clearly broke the DOJ.

No, that's not it.

DOJ doesn't want to have anything to do with anything political or with political crimes. But January 6 moved beyond political crimes and these hearings are showing everyone that.

So as long as the crime is politically motivated DOJ will not prosecute? Ballot stuffing is political, killing your political opponent is political, stage a coup is political, choosing not to prosecute based in party affiliation is political, etc. OMG how can anyone have faith in our legal system!