How is FCPS teacher/staff shortage?

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

Some of this is fake news. Spouses will have the FEE waived, but still need to be qualified. Veterans on the other hand have some qualifications waived.

Veterans don't even need to have a bachelor's degree. Spouses can have a temporary certification for longer than others. They have to be a "certified educator" though--but that's a looser qualification than a licensed teacher.

I read an interview with an older waitress excited to become a teacher. By the time her waiver expires, she'll be retired anyway. Her husband served 30 years ago, so she qualifies.

I think I read the same article. The teacher mentoring her started talking about phonics and the waitress-turned-teacher didn’t know what phonics were. Let’s hope we don’t have to stoop as low as Florida.

Don't they still need 60 college credits?

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

Some of this is fake news. Spouses will have the FEE waived, but still need to be qualified. Veterans on the other hand have some qualifications waived.

Veterans don't even need to have a bachelor's degree. Spouses can have a temporary certification for longer than others. They have to be a "certified educator" though--but that's a looser qualification than a licensed teacher.

I read an interview with an older waitress excited to become a teacher. By the time her waiver expires, she'll be retired anyway. Her husband served 30 years ago, so she qualifies.

I think I read the same article. The teacher mentoring her started talking about phonics and the waitress-turned-teacher didn’t know what phonics were. Let’s hope we don’t have to stoop as low as Florida.

Don't they still need 60 college credits?

I believe those credits can be in underwater basketweaving and still count. You need 30 credits to sub in FCPS and I’ve met some subs that definitely could not pass a intro level math or English course.

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Is it true that high school teachers get a bonus if they have more than 150 students?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it true that high school teachers get a bonus if they have more than 150 students?

They’d better be throwing bonuses at people this year.

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

That's pretty myopic. Teachers have been saying very loudly what needed to change for quite a while. FCPS could have at least attempted some sort of strategy to retain people but instead, they watched the hemorrhage occur and now they're all shocked and shaken... Leadership should be fired.

No one is shocked. Please point to a school system where leadership did this and where they aren’t experiencing this massive shortage. Or are you here just to bash FCPS for anything and everything?

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

That's pretty myopic. Teachers have been saying very loudly what needed to change for quite a while. FCPS could have at least attempted some sort of strategy to retain people but instead, they watched the hemorrhage occur and now they're all shocked and shaken... Leadership should be fired.

No one is shocked. Please point to a school system where leadership did this and where they aren’t experiencing this massive shortage. Or are you here just to bash FCPS for anything and everything?

Wow. You’re a little defensive! Would you happen to work for Gatehouse?? Yes. I’m more than happy to bash FCPS leadership for their failures and I also acknowledge that this is a systemic nationwide problem which has occurred BECAUSE teachers have been short changed and mistreated for decades. They knew that teachers were struggling, they knew that less people were entering the profession, and they knew that an increasing amount were resigning. They did not proactively even attempt to head this off.

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

Some of this is fake news. Spouses will have the FEE waived, but still need to be qualified. Veterans on the other hand have some qualifications waived.

Veterans don't even need to have a bachelor's degree. Spouses can have a temporary certification for longer than others. They have to be a "certified educator" though--but that's a looser qualification than a licensed teacher.

I read an interview with an older waitress excited to become a teacher. By the time her waiver expires, she'll be retired anyway. Her husband served 30 years ago, so she qualifies.

I think I read the same article. The teacher mentoring her started talking about phonics and the waitress-turned-teacher didn’t know what phonics were. Let’s hope we don’t have to stoop as low as Florida.

Don't they still need 60 college credits?

I believe those credits can be in underwater basketweaving and still count. You need 30 credits to sub in FCPS and I’ve met some subs that definitely could not pass a intro level math or English course.

Nope. HS graduates on college break can now sub.

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

That's pretty myopic. Teachers have been saying very loudly what needed to change for quite a while. FCPS could have at least attempted some sort of strategy to retain people but instead, they watched the hemorrhage occur and now they're all shocked and shaken... Leadership should be fired.

No one is shocked. Please point to a school system where leadership did this and where they aren’t experiencing this massive shortage. Or are you here just to bash FCPS for anything and everything?

Wow. You’re a little defensive! Would you happen to work for Gatehouse?? Yes. I’m more than happy to bash FCPS leadership for their failures and I also acknowledge that this is a systemic nationwide problem which has occurred BECAUSE teachers have been short changed and mistreated for decades. They knew that teachers were struggling, they knew that less people were entering the profession, and they knew that an increasing amount were resigning. They did not proactively even attempt to head this off.

You seem unhinged. Maybe you should try some meditation.

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

That's pretty myopic. Teachers have been saying very loudly what needed to change for quite a while. FCPS could have at least attempted some sort of strategy to retain people but instead, they watched the hemorrhage occur and now they're all shocked and shaken... Leadership should be fired.

No one is shocked. Please point to a school system where leadership did this and where they aren’t experiencing this massive shortage. Or are you here just to bash FCPS for anything and everything?

Wow. You’re a little defensive! Would you happen to work for Gatehouse?? Yes. I’m more than happy to bash FCPS leadership for their failures and I also acknowledge that this is a systemic nationwide problem which has occurred BECAUSE teachers have been short changed and mistreated for decades. They knew that teachers were struggling, they knew that less people were entering the profession, and they knew that an increasing amount were resigning. They did not proactively even attempt to head this off.

You seem unhinged. Maybe you should try some meditation.

Yawn... go back to your job of trying to figure out what to do with the teacher shortage FCPS Gatehouse Administrator!

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

yup!! teachers have been burning out since 2010....no one wanted to listen

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

That's pretty myopic. Teachers have been saying very loudly what needed to change for quite a while. FCPS could have at least attempted some sort of strategy to retain people but instead, they watched the hemorrhage occur and now they're all shocked and shaken... Leadership should be fired.

No one is shocked. Please point to a school system where leadership did this and where they aren’t experiencing this massive shortage. Or are you here just to bash FCPS for anything and everything?

Wow. You’re a little defensive! Would you happen to work for Gatehouse?? Yes. I’m more than happy to bash FCPS leadership for their failures and I also acknowledge that this is a systemic nationwide problem which has occurred BECAUSE teachers have been short changed and mistreated for decades. They knew that teachers were struggling, they knew that less people were entering the profession, and they knew that an increasing amount were resigning. They did not proactively even attempt to head this off.

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

yup!! teachers have been burning out since 2010....no one wanted to listen

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

That's pretty myopic. Teachers have been saying very loudly what needed to change for quite a while. FCPS could have at least attempted some sort of strategy to retain people but instead, they watched the hemorrhage occur and now they're all shocked and shaken... Leadership should be fired.

No one is shocked. Please point to a school system where leadership did this and where they aren’t experiencing this massive shortage. Or are you here just to bash FCPS for anything and everything?

Wow. You’re a little defensive! Would you happen to work for Gatehouse?? Yes. I’m more than happy to bash FCPS leadership for their failures and I also acknowledge that this is a systemic nationwide problem which has occurred BECAUSE teachers have been short changed and mistreated for decades. They knew that teachers were struggling, they knew that less people were entering the profession, and they knew that an increasing amount were resigning. They did not proactively even attempt to head this off.

Teachers have been burning out since 2010.... no one did anything but turn a blind eye!

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

That's pretty myopic. Teachers have been saying very loudly what needed to change for quite a while. FCPS could have at least attempted some sort of strategy to retain people but instead, they watched the hemorrhage occur and now they're all shocked and shaken... Leadership should be fired.

No one is shocked. Please point to a school system where leadership did this and where they aren’t experiencing this massive shortage. Or are you here just to bash FCPS for anything and everything?

Wow. You’re a little defensive! Would you happen to work for Gatehouse?? Yes. I’m more than happy to bash FCPS leadership for their failures and I also acknowledge that this is a systemic nationwide problem which has occurred BECAUSE teachers have been short changed and mistreated for decades. They knew that teachers were struggling, they knew that less people were entering the profession, and they knew that an increasing amount were resigning. They did not proactively even attempt to head this off.

You seem unhinged. Maybe you should try some meditation.

Yawn... go back to your job of trying to figure out what to do with the teacher shortage FCPS Gatehouse Administrator!

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

Some of this is fake news. Spouses will have the FEE waived, but still need to be qualified. Veterans on the other hand have some qualifications waived.

Veterans don't even need to have a bachelor's degree. Spouses can have a temporary certification for longer than others. They have to be a "certified educator" though--but that's a looser qualification than a licensed teacher.

I read an interview with an older waitress excited to become a teacher. By the time her waiver expires, she'll be retired anyway. Her husband served 30 years ago, so she qualifies.

I think I read the same article. The teacher mentoring her started talking about phonics and the waitress-turned-teacher didn’t know what phonics were. Let’s hope we don’t have to stoop as low as Florida.

Don't they still need 60 college credits?

I believe those credits can be in underwater basketweaving and still count. You need 30 credits to sub in FCPS and I’ve met some subs that definitely could not pass a intro level math or English course.

Nope. HS graduates on college break can now sub.

Those students on college break still need to have 30 credit hours.

https://www.fcps.edu/careers/career-opportunities/substitute-teaching-opportunities/new-applicants

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Anonymous wrote:We need some drastic moves recruit and retain high quality teachers. One bold move would be to go to a 4-day school week for kids. Increase T-F by 30 minutes. Kids do async work on Monday’s. Teachers plan, have pd on Monday’s. That means less time away from kids T-F. There are other models to accomplish this.

Parents will have to decide whether they want 5 days of school with a crappy, unqualified teacher in a large class or figure out childcare one day a week and get a high quality teacher in a decent sized class.

https://www.edsurge.com/amp/news/2022-06-22-can-four-day-school-weeks-keep-teachers-from-leaving

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/19/texas-schools-four-day-weeks/amp/

That’s ridiculous. Everyone clowned on all the states and districts that had to resort to this during the recession. A 4 day school week doesn’t solve the problems. What would solve long term staffing issues is increasing teacher pay across the board and especially for the hard to fill positions. And stop asking teachers to do more with less all the time. They shouldn’t have to give up their planning and admin time for bogus meetings and “professional development.” Just let them teach and treat them like real professionals, not micromanaged and underpaid babies.

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--a teacher

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question:

What is the plan? There are 588 missing teachers. That’s roughly 18,000 kids (30 per class) without a teacher.

What are the levers?
- Do they just make the classes bigger?
- move teachers around to share the pain between schools? Seems unfair to have some schools fully staffed while others are at 50%
- Put kids into the cafeteria all day?

Seriously, what is the PLAN?

Yes to the first. Combine classes so that there may be grades combined. Also resource teachers will be placed in classrooms to start the year. And central office staff. It will be done on a school by school basis.

yup!! teachers have been burning out since 2010....no one wanted to listen

Yep- I’ve heard central office resource teachers will be assigned to schools (which, good- it’s about time) and possibly folks who were classroom teachers last year but took other jobs this year May be put back in the classroom (ICs are the position I specifically keep hearing, which, again, good!)

What are IC positions??

instructional coaches

This would make me happy, so they can see that some of their ideas are t always practical in reality.

I guess that I am troubled by the fact that these solutions are just a band-aid and that they do not address the systemic problem in K-12 education. What is going to happen next year when more people leave again because these solutions are short-term? At some point, FCPS will run out of people. FCPS has failed to respond to a crisis that people in the trenches saw coming a long time ago. I remember even back in my 2010 grad classes the professors were talking about a significant decrease in the people coming into teacher prep programs.

Why do you think FCPS can fix a teacher pipeline shortage? They already heavily promote the grow your own program. This is a much larger issue than FCPS.

Unfortunately it plays right into political attempts to destroy public education. Let’s just hope VA doesn’t go the way of FL by allowing unqualified people to teach just because they are military spouses.

That's pretty myopic. Teachers have been saying very loudly what needed to change for quite a while. FCPS could have at least attempted some sort of strategy to retain people but instead, they watched the hemorrhage occur and now they're all shocked and shaken... Leadership should be fired.

No one is shocked. Please point to a school system where leadership did this and where they aren’t experiencing this massive shortage. Or are you here just to bash FCPS for anything and everything?

Wow. You’re a little defensive! Would you happen to work for Gatehouse?? Yes. I’m more than happy to bash FCPS leadership for their failures and I also acknowledge that this is a systemic nationwide problem which has occurred BECAUSE teachers have been short changed and mistreated for decades. They knew that teachers were struggling, they knew that less people were entering the profession, and they knew that an increasing amount were resigning. They did not proactively even attempt to head this off.

Teachers have been burning out since 2010.... no one did anything but turn a blind eye!

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