Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap

[Anonymous]

Alec should 100% be charged. You can’t say you didn’t know. Pure negligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"If Donald Trump killed someone with a gun someone said was not loaded, would you say "no big deal"

First nobody is saying it's "no big deal" that AB killed someone.

But lets assume that the secret service agent assigned to protect DT handed DT a gun and said "I checked. There are no bullets in it, so it's okay to shoot" and then DT shot the gun and someone was killed. Would I blame DT? No I would not, assuming there were half a dozen witnesses I have no reason to doubt who all told the police that the secret service agent said he had checked the gun and it was empty.

No I’d still blame him. You still need to check for yourself

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if Alec isn't at fault, the AD can't be at fault either. It's either one or all of them. But it doesn't make sense to me that Alec gets a pass on his safety infractions but the AD doesn't.

That said, I'm looking forward to hearing what the cops decide and I trust their judgment to assess the facts and assign blame.

I do think that movie sets are too dangerous, after hearing about all of this and the fact that it's normal to point guns at people and pull triggers. That's got to stop.

This is 2021 and the last time an actor was shot and killed on set was in 1993.

What is your definition of "too dangerous"?

Here is a list of injuries and deaths during filming. What does this say to you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_and_television_accidents

I think it's dangerous because of the culture. On this thread and elsewhere, people are saying that playing fast and loose with things like guns is fine because it's for a movie. That's not fine, in my opinion. I don't think we need to endanger people or ignore safety for movies. I have family that works on sets and I didn't realize this was the attitude and I don't like it.

No one who actually works on movie sets has ever said that what was happening on Rust was ok. Maybe you should have a conversation with your family members, provided they are members of the IA.

DP. Based on what we know, who should be changed with what?
I don't believe ANYONE will get a single day of jail time. They all have special protections in NM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if Alec isn't at fault, the AD can't be at fault either. It's either one or all of them. But it doesn't make sense to me that Alec gets a pass on his safety infractions but the AD doesn't.

That said, I'm looking forward to hearing what the cops decide and I trust their judgment to assess the facts and assign blame.

I do think that movie sets are too dangerous, after hearing about all of this and the fact that it's normal to point guns at people and pull triggers. That's got to stop.

This is 2021 and the last time an actor was shot and killed on set was in 1993.

What is your definition of "too dangerous"?

Here is a list of injuries and deaths during filming. What does this say to you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_and_television_accidents

I think it's dangerous because of the culture. On this thread and elsewhere, people are saying that playing fast and loose with things like guns is fine because it's for a movie. That's not fine, in my opinion. I don't think we need to endanger people or ignore safety for movies. I have family that works on sets and I didn't realize this was the attitude and I don't like it.

No one who actually works on movie sets has ever said that what was happening on Rust was ok. Maybe you should have a conversation with your family members, provided they are members of the IA.

DP. Based on what we know, who should be changed with what?
I don't believe ANYONE will get a single day of jail time. They all have special protections in NM.

What are the special protections in NM?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The person holding the gun when it goes off is ultimately responsible for what happens.

NO ONE should be let off the hook because they relied on someone else to check to see if the gun is safe. Had this been ANYONE in the "real" world that this happened to, the person holding the gun is responsible for that death and that injury. I can't go to court and say, "my buddy told me it was unloaded right before I killed that person" and be let off the hook.

It wasn’t the real world. It was a movie set.

Ok, so anything goes on a movie set then. No rules, no consequences. I was not aware of that fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that if Alec isn't at fault, the AD can't be at fault either. It's either one or all of them. But it doesn't make sense to me that Alec gets a pass on his safety infractions but the AD doesn't.

That said, I'm looking forward to hearing what the cops decide and I trust their judgment to assess the facts and assign blame.

I do think that movie sets are too dangerous, after hearing about all of this and the fact that it's normal to point guns at people and pull triggers. That's got to stop.

This is 2021 and the last time an actor was shot and killed on set was in 1993.

What is your definition of "too dangerous"?

Here is a list of injuries and deaths during filming. What does this say to you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_and_television_accidents

I think it's dangerous because of the culture. On this thread and elsewhere, people are saying that playing fast and loose with things like guns is fine because it's for a movie. That's not fine, in my opinion. I don't think we need to endanger people or ignore safety for movies. I have family that works on sets and I didn't realize this was the attitude and I don't like it.

No one who actually works on movie sets has ever said that what was happening on Rust was ok. Maybe you should have a conversation with your family members, provided they are members of the IA.

DP. Based on what we know, who should be changed with what?
I don't believe ANYONE will get a single day of jail time. They all have special protections in NM.

What are the special protections in NM?

Politics, of course. If AB was an R, he'd be sitting in lockup right now.

[Anonymous]

“I got a text message actually from someone at my office, and I didn't believe it,” Carmack-Altwies said in an interview Wednesday. “I was completely astonished and then I think I got about 40 more text messages confirming that from people at my office.”
The district attorney said she was under the impression that movie sets were “safer and more protected.”

“The entire situation has shocked me. I was under the assumption, probably with most other people in this country, that movie sets were much safer and more protected than I think that at least this movie was,” she said.

[Anonymous]

Um, if you're Alec Baldwin, you can do anything in MN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person holding the gun when it goes off is ultimately responsible for what happens.

NO ONE should be let off the hook because they relied on someone else to check to see if the gun is safe. Had this been ANYONE in the "real" world that this happened to, the person holding the gun is responsible for that death and that injury. I can't go to court and say, "my buddy told me it was unloaded right before I killed that person" and be let off the hook.

It wasn’t the real world. It was a movie set.

Ok, so anything goes on a movie set then. No rules, no consequences. I was not aware of that fact.

You don’t have to wallow in ignorance. The protocols for firearms on movie sets are not hard to find.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person holding the gun when it goes off is ultimately responsible for what happens.

NO ONE should be let off the hook because they relied on someone else to check to see if the gun is safe. Had this been ANYONE in the "real" world that this happened to, the person holding the gun is responsible for that death and that injury. I can't go to court and say, "my buddy told me it was unloaded right before I killed that person" and be let off the hook.

It wasn’t the real world. It was a movie set.

Ok, so anything goes on a movie set then. No rules, no consequences. I was not aware of that fact.

You don’t have to wallow in ignorance. The protocols for firearms on movie sets are not hard to find.

Are they codified in state law?

[Anonymous]

No one will go to jail. This is exactly how INjustice looks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person holding the gun when it goes off is ultimately responsible for what happens.

NO ONE should be let off the hook because they relied on someone else to check to see if the gun is safe. Had this been ANYONE in the "real" world that this happened to, the person holding the gun is responsible for that death and that injury. I can't go to court and say, "my buddy told me it was unloaded right before I killed that person" and be let off the hook.

It wasn’t the real world. It was a movie set.

Ok, so anything goes on a movie set then. No rules, no consequences. I was not aware of that fact.

You don’t have to wallow in ignorance. The protocols for firearms on movie sets are not hard to find.

Are they codified in state law?

DP. Yes, that's where willful disregard comes in.

[Anonymous]

Laws don't apply to these people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Um, if you're Alec Baldwin, you can do anything in MN.

Wrong state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, if you're Alec Baldwin, you can do anything in MN.

Wrong state.

Dyslexia. Sorry!