In the 90's, DC murders were over drugs, what drives current murder spree in DC ???

[Anonymous]

It seems like DC is reverting back into the 90's in terms of murders. In the 90's many of the murders could be attributed to drug gang rivalries ? What is the current murder uptick in DC about ??? Is it just plain criminally insane people acting out because they have no morals or fear no consequences or think it's OK ???

[Anonymous]

Inadequate mental health/substance abuse treatments resources (waitlists, etc), synthetic drugs (i.e. K2), poor prevention/juvenile justice accountability..to name a few.

[Anonymous]

We're about 16-17 years past the serious lead contamination in DC water.

I'm not kidding -- there is good evidence that discontinuing leaded gasoline was the reason for crime rates starting to go down in the 90's. That was the first generation raised post-leaded gasoline.

[Anonymous]

Gentrification hurts

[Anonymous]

Different police chief.

[Anonymous]

During the Barry years it was clear that an anything goes mentality on behalf of the city prevailed. We had many corrupt policemen who were willing to look the other way. Poverty and crime were the norm.

Today you have isolated pockets of hard core poverty and you’re seeing isolated pockets of hard core crime. The city isn’t gentrifying as much as the poor are leaving to escape the residual crime and violence. The city is doing its part, unknowingly, with charter schools which further concentrate underachievers in public schools. Look at the number of students in schools like Ballou and Anacostia. Despite new facilities kids migrate to charters or the parents leave in search of safety and a future. Expecting people to wait until they’re the last poor person in a neighborhood of wealth is insane.

In a nutshell it’s opportunity. With a decent economy the poor escape while they can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Different police chief.

According to the article I read, the police chief is begging for consequences that stick. I think the police have had it with the Charles Allen style adjudication. Don't think we can pin this on the police --why bother (if the youth criminals will go uncharged or released with no remediation or consequences) is a great question. Same with mental health--they are not social workers. This is a job for our Council and our judicial system to look at together. But they are focused on releasing people who committed crimes up to age 25 and non-cooperation with ICE. That's what they are choosing to focus their time on right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We're about 16-17 years past the serious lead contamination in DC water.

I'm not kidding -- there is good evidence that discontinuing leaded gasoline was the reason for crime rates starting to go down in the 90's. That was the first generation raised post-leaded gasoline.

Okay so what does your post have to do with anything? From your post the 90s generation stopped the vicious murder cycle when lead was removed. This current generation was never exposed to it in the first place?

[Anonymous]

In my neighborhood, it's fights over turf/personal disputes and domestic violence, and recently what looks like a failed robbery.

BTW if someone tries to rob you, give them what they want and move slowly. I'll never forget years ago when a guy got murdered outside the Democratic Women's Club. He was being robbed and he threw his wallet in the direction of the mugger who must have been startled and shot him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different police chief.

According to the article I read, the police chief is begging for consequences that stick. I think the police have had it with the Charles Allen style adjudication. Don't think we can pin this on the police --why bother (if the youth criminals will go uncharged or released with no remediation or consequences) is a great question. Same with mental health--they are not social workers. This is a job for our Council and our judicial system to look at together. But they are focused on releasing people who committed crimes up to age 25 and non-cooperation with ICE. That's what they are choosing to focus their time on right now.

People who petition for release under that program have to have spent 15 years in jail and they have to convince a judge that they've been rehabilitated. If you have some evidence that the judges can't be trusted, tell us, but stop talking about this as if they're just letting any old person out of jail at a moment's notice. That's BS.

[Anonymous]

You need to google why was three strikes you’re out a disaster. The laws that were implemented in the 80s, three strikes you’re out and mandatory minimums, caused a huge problem. Tons of mothers and fathers were sent to jail for petty crimes. Whole generation of kids were raised without parents.

Add to that since prisons for profit. There’s proof the prison owners kept good prisoners instead of paroling them because they were good workers in the jails. They also paroled terrible prisoners because they didn’t want to deal with them anymore. There’s a quote from the warden of one of the prisons that said I’m not proud that we don’t parole the good prisoners but who would wash our cars. cars

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: You need to google why was three strikes you’re out a disaster. The laws that were implemented in the 80s, three strikes you’re out and mandatory minimums, caused a huge problem. Tons of mothers and fathers were sent to jail for petty crimes. Whole generation of kids were raised without parents.

Add to that since prisons for profit. There’s proof the prison owners kept good prisoners instead of paroling them because they were good workers in the jails. They also paroled terrible prisoners because they didn’t want to deal with them anymore. There’s a quote from the warden of one of the prisons that said I’m not proud that we don’t parole the good prisoners but who would wash our cars. cars

Theres a huge difference between 3 strikes your out and a get out of jail free card after 15 years if you commit a major crime before 25. This on top of the exaggerated leniency to youth crime in our city (which mostly end up killing other youth).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: You need to google why was three strikes you’re out a disaster. The laws that were implemented in the 80s, three strikes you’re out and mandatory minimums, caused a huge problem. Tons of mothers and fathers were sent to jail for petty crimes. Whole generation of kids were raised without parents.

Add to that since prisons for profit. There’s proof the prison owners kept good prisoners instead of paroling them because they were good workers in the jails. They also paroled terrible prisoners because they didn’t want to deal with them anymore. There’s a quote from the warden of one of the prisons that said I’m not proud that we don’t parole the good prisoners but who would wash our cars. cars

Theres a huge difference between 3 strikes your out and a get out of jail free card after 15 years if you commit a major crime before 25. This on top of the exaggerated leniency to youth crime in our city (which mostly end up killing other youth).

Why are you conflating two laws. I didn’t even bring up early release. I’m talking about the ridiculousness of three strikes you’re out. Big deal you got caught with pot three times now are you going to jail, really? Do your research understand criminal laws and when and where they failed our community .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We're about 16-17 years past the serious lead contamination in DC water.

I'm not kidding -- there is good evidence that discontinuing leaded gasoline was the reason for crime rates starting to go down in the 90's. That was the first generation raised post-leaded gasoline.

Crime went down everywhere at the same time it went down in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: You need to google why was three strikes you’re out a disaster. The laws that were implemented in the 80s, three strikes you’re out and mandatory minimums, caused a huge problem. Tons of mothers and fathers were sent to jail for petty crimes. Whole generation of kids were raised without parents.

Add to that since prisons for profit. There’s proof the prison owners kept good prisoners instead of paroling them because they were good workers in the jails. They also paroled terrible prisoners because they didn’t want to deal with them anymore. There’s a quote from the warden of one of the prisons that said I’m not proud that we don’t parole the good prisoners but who would wash our cars. cars

Theres a huge difference between 3 strikes your out and a get out of jail free card after 15 years if you commit a major crime before 25. This on top of the exaggerated leniency to youth crime in our city (which mostly end up killing other youth).

I got news for you. The young people who are shooting at other young people aren't doing it because they figured they'll pretend to rehabilitate and then get out in 15 years. And they wouldn't stop doing it if they knew they would be in jail for 30 or 50 years.