No, the reason is that the #MeToo movement has gotten so extreme that anyone that doesn't reflexively believe any woman's accusation 100% without question and instantly condemn the man is subjected to scathing backlash. So, they held off, and researched the topic to find the inconsistencies, the issues and concerns and then reported her accusation with full disclosure to show that her claim was very problematic. And even then, with all the details, there was still a huge backlash, and many people who criticized all of the objections saying that people should just believe Reade and that Biden needed to be removed as the Democratic presidential candidate only on his very problematic allegation. A case that would not even be close to admissible in court was being tried in the court of public opinion and half of the jury refused to read all of the issues and just automatically condemned him. That's why #BelieveAllWomen is problematic. While false accusations are much smaller and less significant in general, when it comes to public figures, false accusations are significantly more likely to happen and we can't believe all women when it comes to public figures. Such allegations have to be vetted first and this was failed terribly. Fortunately the media was a little more conscientious than the mob. |
I agree with most of this. In Biden's case, the mainstream media was afraid of a backlash and of playing into the hands of Fox and the Bernie Bros. These two groups had different motives, but both were more than ready to accept everything uncritically. But I also think that, to some extent, the mainstream media sincerely wanted to hear Reade out.
Which begs the question: whither Me Too? I think Me Too can and must be salvaged. I was assaulted. Personally, I never bought #BelieveAllWomen, instead I went with #ListenToAllWomen and/or #BelieveWomen as a presumption before investigating. So how do we get the word out? That to the extent anybody besides Fox, some actresses, and the fringe left is using "Believe All Women," that needs to stop? That the point is very different? That it's about presuming she's telling the truth before investigating and deciding? Fox will never change. But maybe the Bernie Bloggers will be a little more careful in the future? Or scratch that, maybe they still want to derail Biden and get their guy in. |
ding ding ding they hate us for not being pure enough more than they want to defeat trump |
Left twitter has integrity. |
Well. They have something anyway. And with their help we'll get four more years of Trump. |
About as much integrity as Fox. That is, integrity enough to keep pushing a story full of holes, that kept changing, and that nobody could confirm. Listening to Reade is one thing. Calling for Biden to drop out based on this nothing burger is not integrity. |
But who cares, better than running Biden instead of Bernie, amIright? |
Trying to undermine the Dem primaries based on fake news is not integrity. |
Definitely agree. The progressives have purity tests. And it should evident that their purity does not equate to integrity. When Sanders said that a woman could not be POTUS and Warren called him out on it, the progressives defended Sanders. And here, progressives are more interested in finding a way to disqualify Biden, and try to get their candidate of choice, than in determining whether the allegations are true or not. They are desperate to find a way to push their more progressive agenda. They want to beat Biden because he dared to challenge their progressive platform and candidate and they want that more than they want to actually support a liberal moderate. They will bite off their nose to spite their faces. Period. |
Thanks for the laughs!
The comments to Tucker's piece are hammering him. Most of the cons seem to have crawled away. It's also amusing to watch Tucker do the limbo, twisting frantically between "liberals are hypocrites" and "we all need to be on our guard" against fake claims. |
^^^ This was to the poor person who thinks Tucker has integrity, although that should be obvious. |
I confess that I don't find Bernie himself so objectionable, although I wanted Warren. Bernie's supporters, though, are another story. It does look like they tried to undermine the primary process to give their guy another chance. And that they'd prefer Trump over Biden. |
which tells me that they don't really care about progressive policies really, only that they "stick it to the establishment". |
But what would you expect from the faux news channel that just had to report Eva Murry's harassment allegation on Saturday. Even though Biden wasn't at the event Murry claimed, nor was he at the earlier event Murry changed her story to after her first version was refuted. And yet Fox dedicated a long piece to this on Saturday, waxing eloquent about how this would hurt Biden, what it meant for his campaign, how this dovetailed with Reade, and liberal hypocrisy blah blah blah. And burying the key in a single sentence about how Biden was away for sinus surgery, somewhere in the middle of the article, knowing that none of their readers ever reads that far. That's kinda how this latest Tucker propaganda piece reads: "liberal hypocrisy blah blah blah, but yeah, Reade was lying". |
Even Tucker Carlson is questioning Reade's story... LOL
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tucker-carlson-questions-timing-tara-reade-allegations-against-joe-biden-081305195.html I have no doubt that Biden touched her in a manner that would be a no no today, but back then, this kind of stuff was more accepted. #metoo... when I was in my 20s. However, I would never call touching my hair or shoulder sexual harassment. I doubted the story about him putting his hand on her privates, and I still don't believe that one. I don't like Carlson, but he is saying what I have been saying all along. why did her story change from "he touched my neck and shoulders" back then to now "he put his hands on my privates" just as he got the D nomination? And I am no huge Biden fan. Never was, but he's certainly better than Trump, whom we know by his own words that he would grab women by the pu**ies.
I actually did have on a few occasions have a man put his hands on my behind, and I would never praise such a man about his work on sexual assault. I would either keep my mouth shut or I would call him out. |