Shutdown Rhetoric

[Anonymous]

Read the article about negotiating with Jello. It is spot on. Trump said in the staged White House meeting that he wanted to deal with DACA, that he would sign a bill with love that dealt with the issues.

Graham-Durbin checked the boxes that the president requested.

The president rejected the proposal.

Schumer gave more than Graham-Durbin and the president agreed. Until he didn't.

Now the GOP is taking a hard line of no negotiations until the democrats agree to fund the government. That is NOT what the President said on live television on January 9th.

When the goalposts keep getting moved, you cannot negotiate in good faith. At this point, even Graham and other GOP are frustrated because the took the high road and negotiated in good faith to arrive at an acceptable solution only to be Giloolied by Trump.

By the same token, McConnell could easily have brought Graham-Durbin to the floor and put the issue at the feet of the President, but McConnell wasn't willing to do that either.

So no, at this point, regardless of the core issues, this all falls squarely on the GOP who control all three players in this and have a responsibility to be good actors in running our government.

The majority of Americans see through this and it will only make things worse as the GOP digs in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:if I was working for the gov, I think this would be a sign to get a real job in private industry.

who would stay working for gov with this budgeting process? you can't actually be producing anything of value, if you can be shutdown on a days notice. must be all make work, paper pushing.

Or, we're actually providing services for citizens. So when I can't be at work, I can't respond to emails from you or your lawyer asking for help regarding the laws I help administer. I can't write you letters about your administrative appeal. I can't write letters answering your questions. I can't help you.

So I guess the issue is that working for you, the citizen, is not of any value to your representatives, pp. I'm sorry that serving you has been deemed worthless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMB Director and Trump Right Hand Mick Mulvaney:

"I've heard a lot of arguments about unskilled labor and 10th grade education or whatever to get here. But if that were the case my family would not have gotten here from Ireland"

He goes on to day that this rhetoric is xenophobic and not in the long term interests of the GOP.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-09/immigration-fight-looms-over-republicans-south-carolina-gathering

Neither would Trump's mother, or probably the majority of other Americans. The only group that has a lot of educated immigrants are recent Asian immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read the article about negotiating with Jello. It is spot on. Trump said in the staged White House meeting that he wanted to deal with DACA, that he would sign a bill with love that dealt with the issues.

Graham-Durbin checked the boxes that the president requested.

The president rejected the proposal.

Schumer gave more than Graham-Durbin and the president agreed. Until he didn't.

Now the GOP is taking a hard line of no negotiations until the democrats agree to fund the government. That is NOT what the President said on live television on January 9th.

When the goalposts keep getting moved, you cannot negotiate in good faith. At this point, even Graham and other GOP are frustrated because the took the high road and negotiated in good faith to arrive at an acceptable solution only to be Giloolied by Trump.

By the same token, McConnell could easily have brought Graham-Durbin to the floor and put the issue at the feet of the President, but McConnell wasn't willing to do that either.

So no, at this point, regardless of the core issues, this all falls squarely on the GOP who control all three players in this and have a responsibility to be good actors in running our government.

The majority of Americans see through this and it will only make things worse as the GOP digs in.

Some R in congress feel Trump can't be trusted.

Republican sources within the beleaguered House of Representatives and Senate say partisan divides and personal dislikes reached “breaking point” this past week and blame the dishonest president from their own party for most of the mess.

“I’m supposed to work with the son-of-a-bitch because he’s the leader of the party but I can’t stand him,” says a GOP member. “I despise him.”

The opinion of that one Republican is becoming the norm in Congress. In a private conversation within the GOP cloakroom this week, another Republican said he missed working with Barack Obama.

“We disagreed on most things but he is a better man,” he said. More than one Republican nodded quietly in agreement.

Several refer to Trump as the “Tasmanian Devil,” the cartoon whirling dervish of Warner Brothers cartoons.

Republicans say they can no longer trust Trump on any deals because he changes his mind and goes back on his word too often

Flake took reelection out of the equation and announced his retirement.

Other Republicans plan to leave too. They’ve had it but few are willing to say so publicly.

https://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/70115

[Anonymous]

Kushner is unskilled labor.

[Anonymous]

^ this is how Trump negotiates, by going back on his word.

What happened to Melania's "my word is my bond".. oh sorry, that was actually Michelle O's speech.

[Anonymous]

Trump just made history, many ways. First president to preside over a govt shutdown while his party controls the House, Senate and White House AND first president to preside over a shutdown on the first anniversary of his inauguration AND earliest shutdown ever in a presidency.

[Anonymous]

Congress spent TWO MONTHS talking about how big to make the corporate tax cuts instead of figuring out how to fund the government and make sure we didn't needlessly punish 800,000 young people in America, and then went on vacation for a month?

Yep, they made the issue: they broke DACA, they didn't fund CHIP; despite promises, the GOP owns this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump just made history, many ways. First president to preside over a govt shutdown while his party controls the House, Senate and White House AND first president to preside over a shutdown on the first anniversary of his inauguration AND earliest shutdown ever in a presidency.

So.Much.Winning.

[Anonymous]

Don’t forget paying off porn actresses!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump just made history, many ways. First president to preside over a govt shutdown while his party controls the House, Senate and White House AND first president to preside over a shutdown on the first anniversary of his inauguration AND earliest shutdown ever in a presidency.

I swear he is proud of these records.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]Congress spent TWO MONTHS talking about how big to make the corporate tax cuts instead of figuring out how to fund the government [/b]and make sure we didn't needlessly punish 800,000 young people in America, and then went on vacation for a month?

Yep, they made the issue: they broke DACA, they didn't fund CHIP; despite promises, the GOP owns this.

Utterly this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congress spent TWO MONTHS talking about how big to make the corporate tax cuts instead of figuring out how to fund the government and make sure we didn't needlessly punish 800,000 young people in America, and then went on vacation for a month?

Yep, they made the issue: they broke DACA, they didn't fund CHIP; despite promises, the GOP owns this.

Utterly this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read the article about negotiating with Jello. It is spot on. Trump said in the staged White House meeting that he wanted to deal with DACA, that he would sign a bill with love that dealt with the issues.

Graham-Durbin checked the boxes that the president requested.

The president rejected the proposal.

Schumer gave more than Graham-Durbin and the president agreed. Until he didn't.

Now the GOP is taking a hard line of no negotiations until the democrats agree to fund the government. That is NOT what the President said on live television on January 9th.

When the goalposts keep getting moved, you cannot negotiate in good faith. At this point, even Graham and other GOP are frustrated because the took the high road and negotiated in good faith to arrive at an acceptable solution only to be Giloolied by Trump.

By the same token, McConnell could easily have brought Graham-Durbin to the floor and put the issue at the feet of the President, but McConnell wasn't willing to do that either.

So no, at this point, regardless of the core issues, this all falls squarely on the GOP who control all three players in this and have a responsibility to be good actors in running our government.

The majority of Americans see through this and it will only make things worse as the GOP digs in.

Well said, thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read the article about negotiating with Jello. It is spot on. Trump said in the staged White House meeting that he wanted to deal with DACA, that he would sign a bill with love that dealt with the issues.

Graham-Durbin checked the boxes that the president requested.

The president rejected the proposal.

Schumer gave more than Graham-Durbin and the president agreed. Until he didn't.

Now the GOP is taking a hard line of no negotiations until the democrats agree to fund the government. That is NOT what the President said on live television on January 9th.

When the goalposts keep getting moved, you cannot negotiate in good faith. At this point, even Graham and other GOP are frustrated because the took the high road and negotiated in good faith to arrive at an acceptable solution only to be Giloolied by Trump.

By the same token, McConnell could easily have brought Graham-Durbin to the floor and put the issue at the feet of the President, but McConnell wasn't willing to do that either.

So no, at this point, regardless of the core issues, this all falls squarely on the GOP who control all three players in this and have a responsibility to be good actors in running our government.

The majority of Americans see through this and it will only make things worse as the GOP digs in.

Well said, thank you.

I agree for the most part--except that they should have brought the Goodlatte Bill up--a real bill. Wonder how many Dems would have supported that? Unlike the Graham Durbin chat.