FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.
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Anonymous wrote:Offer the same few languages at every school. Get rid of IB and transferring for languages.


Yes. There is a way to do this. I teach, and students at my school who are in more advanced math have taken math over the computer, monitored by a monitor or IA. If you are really interested in an unpopular language, there could be a zoom model. Just an idea.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.
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Anonymous wrote:Offer the same few languages at every school. Get rid of IB and transferring for languages.


Yes. There is a way to do this. I teach, and students at my school who are in more advanced math have taken math over the computer, monitored by a monitor or IA. If you are really interested in an unpopular language, there could be a zoom model. Just an idea.

I took a couple of years of Latin via a satellite broadcast recorded onto VHS tapes way back in the 90's. Took AP Statistics the same way. I'm sure they have tech today to sufficiently teach languages without pupil placing people out.
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Fix the real problems, get rid of IB and AAP centers. Group kids by ability in elementary and middle school. Offer AP courses across all high schools, and standard language options. Then all you have to tackle are split feeders and some minimal movement. Allow flexible grandfathering and almost everyone will be happy. Sorry aviation academy supporter.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.

Saratoga is the only Lewis school that goes through Lake Braddock, the others go onto Twain, which is why there are so many Lewis transfers to Edison (which is also an IB school.)
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.


I mean kids would still transfer for the AP option. There are many loopholes. Why close them if they offer more choice for parents and children? I like the options we have within the county for lots of reasons:
1 there is something for everyone (language, awesome academy programs, montessori, aap, arts, sped etc)
2 we get options without having charters

I think the answer is MORE choice within the school system, not less.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.


Completely agree.

AAP at every middle school is a no brainer.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.


I mean kids would still transfer for the AP option. There are many loopholes. Why close them if they offer more choice for parents and children? I like the options we have within the county for lots of reasons:
1 there is something for everyone (language, awesome academy programs, montessori, aap, arts, sped etc)
2 we get options without having charters

I think the answer is MORE choice within the school system, not less.


The answer to your underlined question is simple.

If we are rezoning using enrollment numbers that are grossly skewed due to the transfer loopholes, like Lewis, for example, then the transfer loopholes should be closed before any rezoning takes place.

No family that purchased in bounds for a school should be rezoned based on kids who live in a different high school zone transferring in or out of their assigned schools.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.


I mean kids would still transfer for the AP option. There are many loopholes. Why close them if they offer more choice for parents and children? I like the options we have within the county for lots of reasons:
1 there is something for everyone (language, awesome academy programs, montessori, aap, arts, sped etc)
2 we get options without having charters

I think the answer is MORE choice within the school system, not less.


The answer to your underlined question is simple.

If we are rezoning using enrollment numbers that are grossly skewed due to the transfer loopholes, like Lewis, for example, then the transfer loopholes should be closed before any rezoning takes place.

No family that purchased in bounds for a school should be rezoned based on kids who live in a different high school zone transferring in or out of their assigned schools.

A school closes for transfer when it reaches capacity. McLean and WSHS are not over capacity due to transfers. Chantilly isn’t either, but it hosting academies instead of utilizing the much needed space is questionable. Seeing as Herndon and Lewis’s boundaries are pretty much untouched in every scenario (aside from picking up already in bound elementary schools) and they’re not doing much for Mount Vernon aside from squeezing Whitman into the boundaries, this argument has little to do with the current proposal.

I do think they need to fix the AAP pipeline because AAP centers for middle school is a ridiculous waste of transportation dollars.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.


I mean kids would still transfer for the AP option. There are many loopholes. Why close them if they offer more choice for parents and children? I like the options we have within the county for lots of reasons:
1 there is something for everyone (language, awesome academy programs, montessori, aap, arts, sped etc)
2 we get options without having charters

I think the answer is MORE choice within the school system, not less.


The average student does not have much choice at all.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.


I mean kids would still transfer for the AP option. There are many loopholes. Why close them if they offer more choice for parents and children? I like the options we have within the county for lots of reasons:
1 there is something for everyone (language, awesome academy programs, montessori, aap, arts, sped etc)
2 we get options without having charters

I think the answer is MORE choice within the school system, not less.


The answer to your underlined question is simple.

If we are rezoning using enrollment numbers that are grossly skewed due to the transfer loopholes, like Lewis, for example, then the transfer loopholes should be closed before any rezoning takes place.

No family that purchased in bounds for a school should be rezoned based on kids who live in a different high school zone transferring in or out of their assigned schools.


And schools deemed overcrowded (by academies and transfers) are pushing neighborhoods who are very close out of their boundaries and sending kids farther away to accommodate those special programs.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.


I mean kids would still transfer for the AP option. There are many loopholes. Why close them if they offer more choice for parents and children? I like the options we have within the county for lots of reasons:
1 there is something for everyone (language, awesome academy programs, montessori, aap, arts, sped etc)
2 we get options without having charters

I think the answer is MORE choice within the school system, not less.


The average student does not have much choice at all.


Honestly, yes they do. My average student had the choice to go to an immersion program, so we sent her. It is nice because the population for the program is relatively steady AND the program continues through middle and high school. I think MORE programs like this should be established rather than less.
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Anonymous wrote:After speaking to several school board members. It seems like Sandy came in wanting boundary changes to be her lasting legacy and there has never been any discussion on why.

almost no one wants to be moved, yet instead of listening to reasons from the people it actually effects, she has blinders on and continues to push forward. The job is too big for the firm they hired and are in over their heads. (Confirmed by people on the committee) The pushback from nearly all communities asking to step back and not rush into these changes has fallen on deaf ears. SA has flat out said she doesn’t care if she doesn’t get re elected. She’s bulldozing the entire boundary review even while other board members have said to slow down and re evaluate trends, especially with the RIFs and people moving from this area. The random shuffling of neighborhoods does nothing for the bigger issue and as the home owners age fluctuates, it just leads everything to need to be changed again in 10 years.

It’s extremely frustrating and my personal conversations with her have left me feeling that she absolutely does not care what anyone thinks. She’s flippant and honestly, obnoxious in her responses. Telling me about people who live on the “wrong side of the parkway” and I should be happy I’m not getting switched to XYZ. As the top ranked member of the school board, she absolutely should not make comments about how any school is less than another. She should be an advocate and a supporter of making all FCPS schools strong and singing their praises, not just telling us we are lucky we don’t have to go there.

I want to get to the bottom of why she is so adamant about this being her legacy, which one of her financial supporters is it benefiting


It has to be some person who is in the current RV/Lewis pocket, right? She is the only one who keeps talking about those neighborhoods staying at Irving/WSHS where none of the maps so far have showed that move. That or she is a hardcore equity warrior. But honestly, I can imagine what hardcore equity moves might look like and they don’t look like the weird, piecemeal shifting around of neighborhoods that we’ve seen so far.


I wonder what the SES is like in that RVES pocket? I honestly don't know, but I wonder if it is on the lower end SES wise, if that is why she wants it moved into WSHS? I know there ae some apartments along Rolling closer to the Parkway and if those are in that pocket? I also suspect that she is ultimately going to push for either all or part of HVES to be pushed into Lewis, thus altering the SES balance between WSHS and Lewis.

I just hope the rest of the School Board pushes back on her. But they may not care if it doesn't affect their constituents.


Many of the Lewis zoned houses in that area outside the parkway are very nice for the area.

They are easily the nicest house zoned for Rolling Valley by a mile. Most, if not all, of the WSHS zoned houses in the Rolling Valley neighborhoods are small ramblers and split levels, some of the smallest 1960s houses in the area, plus townhouses. The RV houses zoned for Lewis are large, spacious, much newer and updated. They are very nice houses at a Lewis discount. If they get rezoned for WSHS, they will shoot up in value over night.


Just in general, many of the houses that are zoned for Lewis are nice. There are neighborhoods closer to Lewis that are very nice and the whole Saratoga area is nice. All of those families deserve better than what the SB has done to Lewis re: IB vs AP, the academy etc.


+ 1 we are one of “those families” and totally agree!


I agree that Lewis deserves better, but almost 300 Lewis students pupil place to other high schools each year.

It seems like very few Lewis zoned families have skin in the game to make the school more appealing to families.


Yes. Lewis' current membership 1632 and its capacity is 1886 on the FCPS dashboard. You return around 200 students, it is not longer under enrolled. If adding students is the fix, start with the ones currently zoned for Lewis. Get rid of IB and plug the leaks.


I’m pretty sure the “path out of Lewis” is essentially, buy home zoned for Saratoga > private/Montessori K at the nearby Montessori school then tough it out at Saratoga for grades 1-2 > extreme test prep to get into AAP > AAP center at Lorton Station for 3-6 (out of pyramid entirely, gets mostly South County students) > MS AAP at Lake Braddock (also out of pyramid) > stay there for 9-12 for the AP classes.


Families in Crestwood/garfield do pretty much the same thing to get out of Lewis. Springfield estates AAP to LB. Why this is allowed but they want to disrupt kids and move small portions of neighborhoods out of their current HS is beyond me.

Springfield Estates to LB is a wild option. Why is that the only middle school “center” for them to choose? Every middle school should have local AAP and there should not be these loopholes to transfer pyramids.


I mean kids would still transfer for the AP option. There are many loopholes. Why close them if they offer more choice for parents and children? I like the options we have within the county for lots of reasons:
1 there is something for everyone (language, awesome academy programs, montessori, aap, arts, sped etc)
2 we get options without having charters

I think the answer is MORE choice within the school system, not less.


The average student does not have much choice at all.


Honestly, yes they do. My average student had the choice to go to an immersion program, so we sent her. It is nice because the population for the program is relatively steady AND the program continues through middle and high school. I think MORE programs like this should be established rather than less.

Language immersion ends after eighth grade. You can try to pupil place for high school but they’ll send you to the closest school that offers the language and is open to transfers.
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