Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign

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But it doesn't matter if Jr. was set up.

If you are set up to buy drugs or engage a minor in sex, you are still guilty if you attempt to do the crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Which is funnier - WaPo calling this a Stage 5 Hurricane or Lavrov saying "this is wild"?

It wasn't WaPo that said that, it was WaPo that reported it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/category-5-hurricane-white-house-under-siege-by-trump-jrs-russia-revelations/2017/07/11/1e091478-664d-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?utm_term=.c45d968629ca

Even supporters of Trump Jr. who believe he faces no legal repercussions privately acknowledged Tuesday that the story is a public relations disaster — for him as well as for the White House. One outside ally called it a “Category 5 hurricane,” while an outside adviser said a CNN graphic charting connections between the Trump team and Russians resembled the plot of the fictional Netflix series “House of Cards.”

Surely you weren't expecting PP to read past the headline?

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Meanwhile back on planet earth there are crickets of the following picture on Natalia Veselnitskaya's facebook page at the woman's march back in January.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1821397691411631&set=pb.100006242531258.-2207520000.1499883259.&type=3&theater

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Anonymous wrote:But it doesn't matter if Jr. was set up.

If you are set up to buy drugs or engage a minor in sex, you are still guilty if you attempt to do the crime.

This thread is evidence that this logic will not be enough to convince the Trump supporters. They and their media mouthpieces are already forming a narrative about Obama letting in this person, McCain meeting with an associate of this person, etc, hoping to spin this into the ground and out the window.

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Apparently this lawyer wasn't the only Russian Don Jr. met with.

After being asked whether he met with any other Russians around the same time, Trump Jr. told Hannity that he "probably met with other people from Russia but certainly not in the context of an actual formalized meeting."

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-jr-email-russia-admits-fox-news-2017-7

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Donald Trump said: if you vote for Hillary Clinton the country will be embroiled in federal investigations for years.


So prescient.

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Anonymous wrote:It would not matter even if it was a setup. FBI runs sting operations, and the perps still go to jail.

Obama administration setting up his political opponent during a campaign would be a serious federal crime.

The FBI is independent of the WH administration. Trump doesn't understand this, but most Americans do. Don't you?

FBI is not above the law. They are not in the business of setting people up.

She wasn't in the country "for the sole purpose" of meeting Uday. She was here to defend the Russian money launderers, her clients.

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Anonymous wrote:Fun Fact: The Russian lawyer was granted a "special" visa to enter the US from the Obama Administration as she was banned entry into the USA.

So that makes it okay for Uday to have met with her and then conveniently omitted any mention of it?

Who's Uday? Do you need to check your auto-correct, or can you just not type?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uday_Hussein

Yeah, we're talking about DJT Jr. You're talking about someone else, or else you're trying to be cute. Step away from Twitter, return to the real world, then post, please.

It is common parlance here (and elsewhere) for some people to refer to Donald Trump's children by the names of Sadam Hussein's children.

Sure, I see it a lot on Twitter. DCUM is not Twitter. We attempt to stick to the real world, in general.

Multiple people in this thread alone, including I believe Jeff, have referred to Don Jr as Uday. Perhaps do a search of "Uday" here on DCUM and peruse the results and get back to us.

I'm a democrat (who has been VERY vocally anti-trump) and have found that term for DJTJr to be EXTREMELY confusing. I have followed this thread on and off and gotten more and more confused. I am glad someone else asked. I thought I was missing some giant connection to Saddam trying to follow along with this thread and when google didn't help me out I was baffled.

I think in YOUR guys' attempt to be cute, you're actually being super confusing. Now that I DO understand it I really think Jeff should stop doing it and moderate it because if you don't know what's going on that is very confusing.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a question to all you brilliant DCUM legal minds out there. What's the legal standard/definition for collusion in this context? The more that comes out, the more certain it sounds like the Trump campaign had at least some knowledge of Russian involvement in the election during campaign season. However, this doesn't necessarily mean they acted on this knowledge. But would being complicit meet a collusion threshold test?

My pure speculation here. I have a feeling all these meetings that took place were about the Russians telling the Trump campaign what kind of information they had and what they were going to do with the information, while team Trump so sat there and nodded their heads.

I don't know. But let me ask you this,

Guy talks to a 14 YO girl online. Agrees to meet her for sex.

Shows up, no sex. Instead, an officer waiting to arrest him.

He's guilty of attempting to have sex with her and goes to jail.

Uday electronically agreed to meet with the Russians to get info. Showed up, no info. But he still went to the meeting. Question is what was his intent? Was his intent to collude? Is attempted treason illegal or just successful treason?

I am beginning to think Richard Nixon was merely a man before his time.

So the proper comparison isn't to Hillary but to Weiner?

The proper comparison is a setup.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/885001097420697606

https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/588019015198625792

Lol. No. The emails show Trump Jr got himself into this mess himself.

I’d like to apologize to Eric Trump. We always thought you were the dumb one. We were wrong.” — STEPHEN COLBERT

It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

She liked him enough to have dinner with him.

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/885107634373840896

(Aras Agalarov across from Trump with hands in front of his mouth; Natalia Veselnitskaya is the woman at the far left.)

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Why she was allowed into the U.S. is explained by the Washington Post:
http://wapo.st/2tbRnVC?tid=ss_mail&utm_term=.d18f2c869b0b

Veselnitskaya represented Prevezon, which had been sued by the U.S. attorney in New York’s Southern District in a money-laundering case. It was while she was in that role that she also became an outspoken advocate for lifting economic sanctions imposed by Congress against Russia for human rights violations.

Veselnitskaya’s visa for U.S. entry was denied, but she received special permission — in what is known as a “parole letter” — to come to New York specifically to defend Prevezon and Katsyv. She said in a court statement, however, that when she tried to reenter the United States, she was detained at London’s Heathrow Airport and “unjustifiably subjected to a strip search, for no apparent reason.” She eventually received permission to come to the United States to continue her work for Prevezon.

That set the stage for Veselnitskaya to be in New York City in June 2016, where a hearing related to Prevezon case was being held in federal court. (Prevezon paid $6 million to settle the case in May; Reuters reported that Prevezon said it was a victory because no guilt was declared and the amount was far less than initially sought by the U.S. government.) While Veselnitskaya was in the city, she had an opportunity to try to get her message against the Magnitsky Act to the Trump campaign.

The meeting was arranged by a publicist named Rob Goldstone, who wrote to Donald Trump Jr. that he could arrange a meeting with “the Russian government attorney” who could convey “information that incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.” Trump Jr. responded that “if it’s what you say I love it.”

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Anonymous wrote:Donald Trump said: if you vote for Hillary Clinton the country will be embroiled in federal investigations for years.


So prescient.

Who knew Don the Con was a clairvoyant in disguise?

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Anonymous wrote:Donald Trump said: if you vote for Hillary Clinton the country will be embroiled in federal investigations for years.


So prescient.

Who knew Don the Con was a clairvoyant in disguise?

You.

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FBI is not above the law. They are not in the business of setting people up.

dude, time to charge your phone.

btw why were the big three attending a meeting with a trump hater anyway?

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What do we think the next bombshell on this to drop will be? Seems like this is just the beginning of what will be revealed about this meeting/timeline of events.

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Anonymous wrote:But it doesn't matter if Jr. was set up.

If you are set up to buy drugs or engage a minor in sex, you are still guilty if you attempt to do the crime.

+1 Yup.