Official 1st Presidential Debate Thread

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Trump: The Obama administration’s payment to Iran was "one of the great giveaways of all time, of all time."

omg he's turned into Kanye. THAT'S certainly not going to play well with his base.

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Anonymous wrote:H has been preparing for this since her college days. She is extremely abusive, disrespectful and fake. Trump is genuine.

Since when did being prepared become an insult?

When America says she's Untrustworthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are her eyes blinking nonstop?

Nerves? Or dishonesty? I heard ones blink rate increases when lying.

She was a mess.

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She could not win tonight no matter how well she did.

It shows just how UNLIKABLE she really is.

Biggest mistake... she bet against the USA and sold out her decisions and office for donation $$$$$$$$$.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe she will win. I hope all of those who love her (when MANY Dems merely tolerate her) enjoy her smug, arrogant, condescending attitude for the next four years.

How can you all not be disappointed in her, especially following on the heels of Obama for the past eight years? He was soooo much more likable. I don't believe for a second that you will enjoy seeing Hillary as president, you are just glad she is a Democrat. She is so unpleasant and intolerable.

I find her perfectly likeable. But I don't vote on likeability. Plenty of people thought Obama was an arrogant ass. Plenty of others thought he was too conciliatory. People see what they want to see. I'll take the competent, prepared, sane person over the one who wants to curtail civil liberties, muzzle the press, and impose a religious litmus test for admission to the country, thanks.

I know you will vote for her, and so will more Americans than will vote for Trump. And I know you like what she stands for, thanks.

My point is that she is grating, unpleasant and hard to listen to. Anybody who says otherwise is being disingenuous.

I didn't say I like what she stands for, though I do. I like HER. I don't find her grating or unpleasant. I find Trump impossible to listen to. Hillary, I find perfectly fine. Don't put words in my mouth.

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I like her. I get tired of all the comments about her e press ions or looks or laugh. Enough already.
She's intelligent, calm, kind, careful, and quick on her feet. Long winded yes. A bit boring yes.

...when she knows the cameras are on her.

Cameras were almost always having her in split screen. Which network were you watching?

I'm talking about in real life. She is well known to mistreat Secret Service Agents, military personnel and police officers. She has a foul mouth and spews nastiness like "F off" when greeted by a Secret Service agent.

Exactly. She's just plain EVIL.

Trump sniffs cocaine

He doesn't even do alcohol, bozo.

Trumpkins are a testy lot tonight. It's tough when your candidate loses.

It will be even tougher when our country loses! (and every one of us ultimately)

[Anonymous]

My biggest fear for the debates was that Trump was not going to be himself. It seems like he was. If the US wants to elect Trump, now they have seem him in all his glory, then be it. I prefer polished prepared nerdy boring elitist Hillary.

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Looks like the Russian s are up, it's daytime over there

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Anonymous wrote:My biggest fear for the debates was that Trump was not going to be himself. It seems like he was. If the US wants to elect Trump, now they have seem him in all his glory, then be it. I prefer polished prepared nerdy boring elitist Hillary.

Do you really believe the President gets to be quarantined for a week to rest up for every important meeting?

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Anonymous wrote:I went into this debate undecided and at this point I'm leaning towards trump. I think he has a point about Clinton has had X number of years to accomplish these things and she hasn't.

when could she have accomplished these things?

she was a US Senator, so one of 100 and advocated for many of these things, but of course she wasn't running the show, and as Secy of State, her portfolio didn't include job creation, etc...

which things should she have accomplished and when?

and what makes you think he has any clue?

This is what scares me about this election - someone as ignorant as Donald Trump repeats the line that "she hasn't accomplished anything" and only a few people are actually smart enough to know 1) how many years she was an elected official (Senator) and 2) how many years she was Secretary of State and 3) that neither one of those jobs means you are creating and enacting economic policies.

Meanwhile, Captain Underpants can says stuff like "she's been fighting Isis her whole adult life" and not get called on it. Good laugh over that one, and many others, but it's still super depressing that 50% of our country can't see that he doesn't have a clue, not to mention the fact that he's a racist and a pig and generally of DEPLORABLE character. This is not to say that she's perfect, but she's still the better choice hands down.

I may be a reluctant Hillary supporter but I am not a fool.

Here's how it works. We run the country hard - let businesses do their thing for a few cycles. And then people complain about about trickle down economics - rich get richer, poor get poore. So we flip it and grow social programs to help the poor and we try to give the middle class a tax break . . . until . . .

Lather, rinse, repeat.

In this case, we cheaped out as a country and purchased some shitty shampoo that won't ever clean the filth from our hair.

our fault

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Smug. That's Hillary, such an elitist with her condescending smirk looking down at the world.

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OK and What does Trump change? He said he was smart to not pay taxes. Maybe you are not that smart to pay taxes. More tax cuts for the rich. How does that help you?

Nothing will change in trade deals. China is worlds largest economy and has 1.3 billion market and they hold over 1 trillion of our debt. China controls USA. Period. Nothing will change that. Trump with his ADHD will be eaten alive by the super shrewd Chinese.

Older demographic is not as big in America, the millennials are. Among the millennials the split between white and non white is 55-45. Why do you think Obama won twice?

Social issues, gay marriage are all issues that are settled and it's not gonna change, whoever becomes president. Period.

So what does Trump really do? Deportation of illegals won't happen, he has said so himself. He will deport criminals, same as Obama. Wall? Not enough budget and Congress won't approve.

What else is left. Nothing. He will get tax cuts passed. That's it. And at the end of his term a recession, because trickle down doesn't work.

stalemate with Donald- No one can see that? He'll attempt to make moves and he'll be blocked. That's four years of sitting around, watching the king on his golden throne.

but the flip side?

Hillary - who is not sincere, who was in bed with Wall Street, who has made some shady deals through her foundation - wants to tax the rich. I think we SHOULD have learned enough about that move. It doesn't work. Our huge corporations are too protected to allow that to happen - at least to the extent that she CLAIMS she'd like to see it happen. In the meantime, she's promising free tuition for folks making under $125K, suggesting that states and colleges "kick in to do their part." translation - Those who have saved for college, who can only afford state universities, will see tuition rise. why? b/c we will have to pay for those receiving a free ride

State colleges will have to make cuts to faculty and programs b/c there simply is not enough time for the states themselves to go seeking grants to fund post-secondary education. At this point, my own two kids (and I'm an older mother with young children) might be receiving a BS from Phoenix University online. quality, right?

You want to talk about race? b/c that's ugly

Hillary's super predator comment will never go away. That came at a time when young black males were being locked up again and again. So she had to eat those words and move forward with "building communities." Building communities takes time. And she's no role model for black or Hispanic males. If she was smarter, she would have started reaching out to communities by building bridges and creating outreach programs with AUTHENTIC role models. a 69 yo white lady ain't gonna cut it.

In the meantime, let's retrain police so that they're not so gun happy. There are over 700,000 police in the US housed in about 18,000 police departments. Please tell me - logistically - how she will help to create training programs, but more importantly, how she will PAY for these programs? Will the police departments be seeking out grants, too?

OK, let's invest in clean energy. I'm on board, but again - with what money? pro bono funding from Goldman Sachs? And let's say clean energy takes off, what do you tel the "dirty energy" folks who have no training yet still need to eat? What happens to those parts of America? Who retrains them?

I can't even think about the foreign policy side. It makes my head hurt. But as we continue to police the world, working w/in a deficit, how do we strengthen the US internally while keeping ourselves safe on the external front?

It takes money. And another Obama stimulus check isn't the answer.

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OK and What does Trump change? He said he was smart to not pay taxes. Maybe you are not that smart to pay taxes. More tax cuts for the rich. How does that help you?

Nothing will change in trade deals. China is worlds largest economy and has 1.3 billion market and they hold over 1 trillion of our debt. China controls USA. Period. Nothing will change that. Trump with his ADHD will be eaten alive by the super shrewd Chinese.

Older demographic is not as big in America, the millennials are. Among the millennials the split between white and non white is 55-45. Why do you think Obama won twice?

Social issues, gay marriage are all issues that are settled and it's not gonna change, whoever becomes president. Period.

So what does Trump really do? Deportation of illegals won't happen, he has said so himself. He will deport criminals, same as Obama. Wall? Not enough budget and Congress won't approve.

What else is left. Nothing. He will get tax cuts passed. That's it. And at the end of his term a recession, because trickle down doesn't work.

stalemate with Donald- No one can see that? He'll attempt to make moves and he'll be blocked. That's four years of sitting around, watching the king on his golden throne.

but the flip side?

Hillary - who is not sincere, who was in bed with Wall Street, who has made some shady deals through her foundation - wants to tax the rich. I think we SHOULD have learned enough about that move. It doesn't work. Our huge corporations are too protected to allow that to happen - at least to the extent that she CLAIMS she'd like to see it happen. In the meantime, she's promising free tuition for folks making under $125K, suggesting that states and colleges "kick in to do their part." translation - Those who have saved for college, who can only afford state universities, will see tuition rise. why? b/c we will have to pay for those receiving a free ride

State colleges will have to make cuts to faculty and programs b/c there simply is not enough time for the states themselves to go seeking grants to fund post-secondary education. At this point, my own two kids (and I'm an older mother with young children) might be receiving a BS from Phoenix University online. quality, right?

You want to talk about race? b/c that's ugly

Hillary's super predator comment will never go away. That came at a time when young black males were being locked up again and again. So she had to eat those words and move forward with "building communities." Building communities takes time. And she's no role model for black or Hispanic males. If she was smarter, she would have started reaching out to communities by building bridges and creating outreach programs with AUTHENTIC role models. a 69 yo white lady ain't gonna cut it.

In the meantime, let's retrain police so that they're not so gun happy. There are over 700,000 police in the US housed in about 18,000 police departments. Please tell me - logistically - how she will help to create training programs, but more importantly, how she will PAY for these programs? Will the police departments be seeking out grants, too?

OK, let's invest in clean energy. I'm on board, but again - with what money? pro bono funding from Goldman Sachs? And let's say clean energy takes off, what do you tel the "dirty energy" folks who have no training yet still need to eat? What happens to those parts of America? Who retrains them?

I can't even think about the foreign policy side. It makes my head hurt. But as we continue to police the world, working w/in a deficit, how do we strengthen the US internally while keeping ourselves safe on the external front?

It takes money. And another Obama stimulus check isn't the answer.

+ 1,000,000

[Anonymous]

I loved how she slid her book into the debate.

We are a capitalistic society after all. Maybe she'll make enough off that book to pay for a Beyonce visit to her grandchildren's next birthday party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She could not win tonight no matter how well she did.

It shows just how UNLIKABLE she really is.

Biggest mistake... she bet against the USA and sold out her decisions and office for donation $$$$$$$$$.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

I thought Hillary came across as more likeable than before - and very genuine.

She's also good at getting a rise out of Trumpy without him even knowing.

Sadly, Trump had so few facts that there is nothing to debate.

She's a stateswoman. She's prepared. He is an idiot.