3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

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Anonymous wrote:Did the shooter get the guns legally and pass a background check? Perhaps the trans may have been a concern because of mental illness and unfit to purchase a gun

1. By definition, any mass shooter is mentally ill.

2. The APA no longer considers trans identity as a mental disorder.

Part of the background check should look into mental health, perhaps a question about transitioning

Let's keep it simple. BAN assault weapons. Then move on to severely regulating the rest of these killing tools.

That won't work.

Assault weapons are just scary looking rifles.

Also sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles.

It's a start. Chip away a little at a time. There's no other way.

Agree. Assault weapons ban is low hanging fruit since it was in place for 10 years and the world did not come to end. Life goes on just find without assault weapons polluting our country.

Manufacturers just designed around the ban during those years. Just as manufacturers designed around California's current ban. The compliant rifles remain just as deadly as any other rifle.



I don't care if one is pro gun or anti gun, it’s just stupid legislation that doesn't solve the problem one way or the other.

So, Madame Gun Genius, only the US, unique among developed nations, has this problem. I guess it’s something inherent in us as a people that we’re all just uncontrollably violent. No way we can solve this with any laws. Nope. We just have to keep destroying families because we’re us.

I agree with your statement. Yes there is something unique about the USA and it's not access to firearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

The other countries with high gun possession rates don't have the school shooting issues that we do. Countries that are literal warzone don't have that issue, lawless narco states don't have that issue. Countries that mandated each house have a firearm never had that issue.

So what makes Americans shoot up schools? It has to be something beyond merely availability.

IT. IS. MENTAL. HEALTH!!!!

America is in a mass mental health crisis.

The pandemic lockdowns and social media amplified mental health problems, and now we are seeing the effects.

And the violence and carnage we are seeing wouldn’t be possible without access to guns. no matter how mentally ill someone is, they wouldn’t be able to perpetrate an attack like this without guns.

Ever hear of the mass knifing attacks in Asia?

Happens in Japanese schools and Chinese schools particularly against young kids. There was even one a few years back were 31 people were killed and 130 injured in a rail station. You absolutely can have an attack on this level without guns, it happens many times each year around the world.

Then you have all the people who get run over on purpose. Like at a Christmas parade last year where 6 were killed and 62 injured. Half of all terror incidents are conducted this way per the below paper.

https://tsaco.bmj.com/content/7/1/e000964

If someone is nuts and wants to kill mass numbers of people there are lots of ways to do it which do not require firearms.

More than 9800 people have been killed so far in 2023 in the US by guns. We're not even a quarter of the way through the year.

I noticed that you did NOT share the total annual number of deaths by knives in all of Asia (a continent much larger than the US). Why is that?

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Anonymous wrote:Did the shooter get the guns legally and pass a background check? Perhaps the trans may have been a concern because of mental illness and unfit to purchase a gun

1. By definition, any mass shooter is mentally ill.

2. The APA no longer considers trans identity as a mental disorder.

Part of the background check should look into mental health, perhaps a question about transitioning

Let's keep it simple. BAN assault weapons. Then move on to severely regulating the rest of these killing tools.

That won't work.

Assault weapons are just scary looking rifles.

Also sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles.

It's a start. Chip away a little at a time. There's no other way.

Agree. Assault weapons ban is low hanging fruit since it was in place for 10 years and the world did not come to end. Life goes on just find without assault weapons polluting our country.

Manufacturers just designed around the ban during those years. Just as manufacturers designed around California's current ban. The compliant rifles remain just as deadly as any other rifle.



I don't care if one is pro gun or anti gun, it’s just stupid legislation that doesn't solve the problem one way or the other.

So, Madame Gun Genius, only the US, unique among developed nations, has this problem. I guess it’s something inherent in us as a people that we’re all just uncontrollably violent. No way we can solve this with any laws. Nope. We just have to keep destroying families because we’re us.

I agree with your statement. Yes there is something unique about the USA and it's not access to firearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

The other countries with high gun possession rates don't have the school shooting issues that we do. Countries that are literal warzone don't have that issue, lawless narco states don't have that issue. Countries that mandated each house have a firearm never had that issue.

So what makes Americans shoot up schools? It has to be something beyond merely availability.

IT. IS. MENTAL. HEALTH!!!!

America is in a mass mental health crisis.

The pandemic lockdowns and social media amplified mental health problems, and now we are seeing the effects.

And the violence and carnage we are seeing wouldn’t be possible without access to guns. no matter how mentally ill someone is, they wouldn’t be able to perpetrate an attack like this without guns.

Ever hear of the mass knifing attacks in Asia?

Happens in Japanese schools and Chinese schools particularly against young kids. There was even one a few years back were 31 people were killed and 130 injured in a rail station. You absolutely can have an attack on this level without guns, it happens many times each year around the world.

Then you have all the people who get run over on purpose. Like at a Christmas parade last year where 6 were killed and 62 injured. Half of all terror incidents are conducted this way per the below paper.

https://tsaco.bmj.com/content/7/1/e000964

If someone is nuts and wants to kill mass numbers of people there are lots of ways to do it which do not require firearms.

Europe has had a lot of mass-truck attacks.

Europe also experiences far more bombings than we do here in the USA. In particular

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden

Numbers please. This means nothing if you don't give us the numbers to compare.

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Anonymous wrote:So many anomalies here. Christian private (!!!) school in TN & FEMALE aggressor.

NP. I'm sorry to inform you that a private school in Nashville isn't an anomaly - there are some areas where everyone goes to regular public school, other areas where many/most parents do not send their kids to regular public school. Nashville is one of the latter.

A shooting at a private school is an anomaly, I meant.

Yes, and I meant that in areas where private schools are the norm, then a shooting at a private school isn't an anomaly. A female shooter, that's an anomaly.

Even crazier, the shooter was a former student.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the shooter get the guns legally and pass a background check? Perhaps the trans may have been a concern because of mental illness and unfit to purchase a gun

1. By definition, any mass shooter is mentally ill.

2. The APA no longer considers trans identity as a mental disorder.

Part of the background check should look into mental health, perhaps a question about transitioning

Let's keep it simple. BAN assault weapons. Then move on to severely regulating the rest of these killing tools.

That won't work.

Assault weapons are just scary looking rifles.

Also sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles.

It's a start. Chip away a little at a time. There's no other way.

Agree. Assault weapons ban is low hanging fruit since it was in place for 10 years and the world did not come to end. Life goes on just find without assault weapons polluting our country.

Manufacturers just designed around the ban during those years. Just as manufacturers designed around California's current ban. The compliant rifles remain just as deadly as any other rifle.



I don't care if one is pro gun or anti gun, it’s just stupid legislation that doesn't solve the problem one way or the other.

So, Madame Gun Genius, only the US, unique among developed nations, has this problem. I guess it’s something inherent in us as a people that we’re all just uncontrollably violent. No way we can solve this with any laws. Nope. We just have to keep destroying families because we’re us.

I agree with your statement. Yes there is something unique about the USA and it's not access to firearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

The other countries with high gun possession rates don't have the school shooting issues that we do. Countries that are literal warzone don't have that issue, lawless narco states don't have that issue. Countries that mandated each house have a firearm never had that issue.

So what makes Americans shoot up schools? It has to be something beyond merely availability.

IT. IS. MENTAL. HEALTH!!!!

America is in a mass mental health crisis.

The pandemic lockdowns and social media amplified mental health problems, and now we are seeing the effects.

And the violence and carnage we are seeing wouldn’t be possible without access to guns. no matter how mentally ill someone is, they wouldn’t be able to perpetrate an attack like this without guns.

Ever hear of the mass knifing attacks in Asia?

Happens in Japanese schools and Chinese schools particularly against young kids. There was even one a few years back were 31 people were killed and 130 injured in a rail station. You absolutely can have an attack on this level without guns, it happens many times each year around the world.

Then you have all the people who get run over on purpose. Like at a Christmas parade last year where 6 were killed and 62 injured. Half of all terror incidents are conducted this way per the below paper.

https://tsaco.bmj.com/content/7/1/e000964

If someone is nuts and wants to kill mass numbers of people there are lots of ways to do it which do not require firearms.

Europe has had a lot of mass-truck attacks.

Europe also experiences far more bombings than we do here in the USA. In particular

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden

Numbers please. This means nothing if you don't give us the numbers to compare.

For bombings and mass-truck attacks zero in most countries in a given year. For guns in the US, thousands

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Anonymous wrote:Did the shooter get the guns legally and pass a background check? Perhaps the trans may have been a concern because of mental illness and unfit to purchase a gun

1. By definition, any mass shooter is mentally ill.

2. The APA no longer considers trans identity as a mental disorder.

Part of the background check should look into mental health, perhaps a question about transitioning

Let's keep it simple. BAN assault weapons. Then move on to severely regulating the rest of these killing tools.

That won't work.

Assault weapons are just scary looking rifles.

Also sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles.

It's a start. Chip away a little at a time. There's no other way.

Agree. Assault weapons ban is low hanging fruit since it was in place for 10 years and the world did not come to end. Life goes on just find without assault weapons polluting our country.

Manufacturers just designed around the ban during those years. Just as manufacturers designed around California's current ban. The compliant rifles remain just as deadly as any other rifle.



I don't care if one is pro gun or anti gun, it’s just stupid legislation that doesn't solve the problem one way or the other.

So, Madame Gun Genius, only the US, unique among developed nations, has this problem. I guess it’s something inherent in us as a people that we’re all just uncontrollably violent. No way we can solve this with any laws. Nope. We just have to keep destroying families because we’re us.

I agree with your statement. Yes there is something unique about the USA and it's not access to firearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

The other countries with high gun possession rates don't have the school shooting issues that we do. Countries that are literal warzone don't have that issue, lawless narco states don't have that issue. Countries that mandated each house have a firearm never had that issue.

So what makes Americans shoot up schools? It has to be something beyond merely availability.

IT. IS. MENTAL. HEALTH!!!!

America is in a mass mental health crisis.

The pandemic lockdowns and social media amplified mental health problems, and now we are seeing the effects.

And the violence and carnage we are seeing wouldn’t be possible without access to guns. no matter how mentally ill someone is, they wouldn’t be able to perpetrate an attack like this without guns.

Ever hear of the mass knifing attacks in Asia?

Happens in Japanese schools and Chinese schools particularly against young kids. There was even one a few years back were 31 people were killed and 130 injured in a rail station. You absolutely can have an attack on this level without guns, it happens many times each year around the world.

Then you have all the people who get run over on purpose. Like at a Christmas parade last year where 6 were killed and 62 injured. Half of all terror incidents are conducted this way per the below paper.

https://tsaco.bmj.com/content/7/1/e000964

If someone is nuts and wants to kill mass numbers of people there are lots of ways to do it which do not require firearms.

How many kids would the Nashville shooter have killed if she had used a knife instead of an assault rifle?

If we go by deaths in incidents in China, at least as many as were killed in this incident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China

You can do tremendous damage with a knife. A bunch of quick puncture wounds will cause someone to bleed out quickly (5 min or less) particuraly if they sever a major blood vessel.

Be honest, which would you rather face, a knife attack or a shooting with an AR-15?

Here, take a look at what the rifle will do to you before you make your pick. Make sure to read to the very end. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

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PP here- Its relevant because its a possible (likely) motive for the shooting. A conservative school that likely didn't support this student in the way they thought they should be supported. In a state that is make life hell for trans people. It’s as relevant as any other motive, why bury it? I'm guessing you don't have an issue around reporting when a white supremicist shoots up a Black church? It’s just seems like disingenuious reporting by a serious new outlet.

why do you think the school was conservative? It is presbytarian...

Someone posted earlier that the school is PCA, not PCUSA. That’s the more conservative flavor of Presbyterian.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/tell-difference-presbyterian-denominations/?amp

Thank you for posting that. I've been very confused about it since I thought Presbyterians were just less formal Episcopalians. Didn't realize that there's an entire world of offshoot flavors.

Covenant school is a feeder school for Christ Presbyterian Academy (CPA), also PCA associated. governor lees kids graduated from CPA. The same governor who is banning trans healthcare for minors, etc. really surprised this connection hasn’t been talked about. Any yes, the covenant families are likely republicans who support Lee and rep ogles.

Well this is interesting. Curious why nobody on the news mentioned this yet.

The shooter was probably (and rightly) feeling directly targeted by the anti-trans agenda being pushed by the Governor, the church and its network, and other Tennessee officials.

There is no "anit-trans" agenda.

All of the laws that have been put in place affect CHILDREN. She was not a child.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the shooter get the guns legally and pass a background check? Perhaps the trans may have been a concern because of mental illness and unfit to purchase a gun

1. By definition, any mass shooter is mentally ill.

2. The APA no longer considers trans identity as a mental disorder.

Part of the background check should look into mental health, perhaps a question about transitioning

Let's keep it simple. BAN assault weapons. Then move on to severely regulating the rest of these killing tools.

That won't work.

Assault weapons are just scary looking rifles.

Also sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles.

It's a start. Chip away a little at a time. There's no other way.

Agree. Assault weapons ban is low hanging fruit since it was in place for 10 years and the world did not come to end. Life goes on just find without assault weapons polluting our country.

Manufacturers just designed around the ban during those years. Just as manufacturers designed around California's current ban. The compliant rifles remain just as deadly as any other rifle.



I don't care if one is pro gun or anti gun, it’s just stupid legislation that doesn't solve the problem one way or the other.

So, Madame Gun Genius, only the US, unique among developed nations, has this problem. I guess it’s something inherent in us as a people that we’re all just uncontrollably violent. No way we can solve this with any laws. Nope. We just have to keep destroying families because we’re us.

I agree with your statement. Yes there is something unique about the USA and it's not access to firearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

The other countries with high gun possession rates don't have the school shooting issues that we do. Countries that are literal warzone don't have that issue, lawless narco states don't have that issue. Countries that mandated each house have a firearm never had that issue.

So what makes Americans shoot up schools? It has to be something beyond merely availability.

IT. IS. MENTAL. HEALTH!!!!

America is in a mass mental health crisis.

The pandemic lockdowns and social media amplified mental health problems, and now we are seeing the effects.

And the violence and carnage we are seeing wouldn’t be possible without access to guns. no matter how mentally ill someone is, they wouldn’t be able to perpetrate an attack like this without guns.

Ever hear of the mass knifing attacks in Asia?

Happens in Japanese schools and Chinese schools particularly against young kids. There was even one a few years back were 31 people were killed and 130 injured in a rail station. You absolutely can have an attack on this level without guns, it happens many times each year around the world.

Then you have all the people who get run over on purpose. Like at a Christmas parade last year where 6 were killed and 62 injured. Half of all terror incidents are conducted this way per the below paper.

https://tsaco.bmj.com/content/7/1/e000964

If someone is nuts and wants to kill mass numbers of people there are lots of ways to do it which do not require firearms.

More than 9800 people have been killed so far in 2023 in the US by guns. We're not even a quarter of the way through the year.

I noticed that you did NOT share the total annual number of deaths by knives in all of Asia (a continent much larger than the US). Why is that?

Because as a whole, Asian's don't kill each other at the same rate as other racial groups. This is true for Asian populations in Europe and the USA.

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NP. This focus on the fact the shooter was transgender is just an attempt to distract from the truth of the gun cult. It’s a red herring to try to stop people from making any progress on gun control. We know gun control works. We have evidence. It literally does not matter that the shooter was trans.

And just so you know where I stand, I say this as someone who thinks the transgender rights movement has largely become a violently misogynist incel movement with a goal of subjugating women. None of that matters in this situation. The problem is the guns and the gun lobby and has always been the guns and the gun lobby. Trans or not is entirely irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the shooter get the guns legally and pass a background check? Perhaps the trans may have been a concern because of mental illness and unfit to purchase a gun

1. By definition, any mass shooter is mentally ill.

2. The APA no longer considers trans identity as a mental disorder.

Part of the background check should look into mental health, perhaps a question about transitioning

Let's keep it simple. BAN assault weapons. Then move on to severely regulating the rest of these killing tools.

That won't work.

Assault weapons are just scary looking rifles.

Also sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles.

It's a start. Chip away a little at a time. There's no other way.

Agree. Assault weapons ban is low hanging fruit since it was in place for 10 years and the world did not come to end. Life goes on just find without assault weapons polluting our country.

Manufacturers just designed around the ban during those years. Just as manufacturers designed around California's current ban. The compliant rifles remain just as deadly as any other rifle.



I don't care if one is pro gun or anti gun, it’s just stupid legislation that doesn't solve the problem one way or the other.

So, Madame Gun Genius, only the US, unique among developed nations, has this problem. I guess it’s something inherent in us as a people that we’re all just uncontrollably violent. No way we can solve this with any laws. Nope. We just have to keep destroying families because we’re us.

I agree with your statement. Yes there is something unique about the USA and it's not access to firearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

The other countries with high gun possession rates don't have the school shooting issues that we do. Countries that are literal warzone don't have that issue, lawless narco states don't have that issue. Countries that mandated each house have a firearm never had that issue.

So what makes Americans shoot up schools? It has to be something beyond merely availability.

IT. IS. MENTAL. HEALTH!!!!

America is in a mass mental health crisis.

The pandemic lockdowns and social media amplified mental health problems, and now we are seeing the effects.

And the violence and carnage we are seeing wouldn’t be possible without access to guns. no matter how mentally ill someone is, they wouldn’t be able to perpetrate an attack like this without guns.

Ever hear of the mass knifing attacks in Asia?

Happens in Japanese schools and Chinese schools particularly against young kids. There was even one a few years back were 31 people were killed and 130 injured in a rail station. You absolutely can have an attack on this level without guns, it happens many times each year around the world.

Then you have all the people who get run over on purpose. Like at a Christmas parade last year where 6 were killed and 62 injured. Half of all terror incidents are conducted this way per the below paper.

https://tsaco.bmj.com/content/7/1/e000964

If someone is nuts and wants to kill mass numbers of people there are lots of ways to do it which do not require firearms.

How many kids would the Nashville shooter have killed if she had used a knife instead of an assault rifle?

If we go by deaths in incidents in China, at least as many as were killed in this incident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China

You can do tremendous damage with a knife. A bunch of quick puncture wounds will cause someone to bleed out quickly (5 min or less) particuraly if they sever a major blood vessel.

Be honest, which would you rather face, a knife attack or a shooting with an AR-15?

Here, take a look at what the rifle will do to you before you make your pick. Make sure to read to the very end. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

Depends on the distance.

If the person is 100 yards away. I would take the knife attack.

If the person is 2 yards away, I would take the AR 15.

Regarding your Wapo article, what type of ammo are we talking about? For the pistol round are we talking about hollow points? are we talking about .45?

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Anonymous wrote:Did the shooter get the guns legally and pass a background check? Perhaps the trans may have been a concern because of mental illness and unfit to purchase a gun

1. By definition, any mass shooter is mentally ill.

2. The APA no longer considers trans identity as a mental disorder.

Part of the background check should look into mental health, perhaps a question about transitioning

Let's keep it simple. BAN assault weapons. Then move on to severely regulating the rest of these killing tools.

That won't work.

Assault weapons are just scary looking rifles.

Also sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles.

It's a start. Chip away a little at a time. There's no other way.

Agree. Assault weapons ban is low hanging fruit since it was in place for 10 years and the world did not come to end. Life goes on just find without assault weapons polluting our country.

Manufacturers just designed around the ban during those years. Just as manufacturers designed around California's current ban. The compliant rifles remain just as deadly as any other rifle.



I don't care if one is pro gun or anti gun, it’s just stupid legislation that doesn't solve the problem one way or the other.

So, Madame Gun Genius, only the US, unique among developed nations, has this problem. I guess it’s something inherent in us as a people that we’re all just uncontrollably violent. No way we can solve this with any laws. Nope. We just have to keep destroying families because we’re us.

I agree with your statement. Yes there is something unique about the USA and it's not access to firearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

The other countries with high gun possession rates don't have the school shooting issues that we do. Countries that are literal warzone don't have that issue, lawless narco states don't have that issue. Countries that mandated each house have a firearm never had that issue.

So what makes Americans shoot up schools? It has to be something beyond merely availability.

IT. IS. MENTAL. HEALTH!!!!

America is in a mass mental health crisis.

The pandemic lockdowns and social media amplified mental health problems, and now we are seeing the effects.

And the violence and carnage we are seeing wouldn’t be possible without access to guns. no matter how mentally ill someone is, they wouldn’t be able to perpetrate an attack like this without guns.

Ever hear of the mass knifing attacks in Asia?

Happens in Japanese schools and Chinese schools particularly against young kids. There was even one a few years back were 31 people were killed and 130 injured in a rail station. You absolutely can have an attack on this level without guns, it happens many times each year around the world.

Then you have all the people who get run over on purpose. Like at a Christmas parade last year where 6 were killed and 62 injured. Half of all terror incidents are conducted this way per the below paper.

https://tsaco.bmj.com/content/7/1/e000964

If someone is nuts and wants to kill mass numbers of people there are lots of ways to do it which do not require firearms.

How many kids would the Nashville shooter have killed if she had used a knife instead of an assault rifle?

If we go by deaths in incidents in China, at least as many as were killed in this incident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China

You can do tremendous damage with a knife. A bunch of quick puncture wounds will cause someone to bleed out quickly (5 min or less) particuraly if they sever a major blood vessel.

No, overall there would be statistically fewer deaths.

Heck, just changing the caliber of ammo people are allowed to use would statistically reduce gun deaths based on actual research:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2688536

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PP here- Its relevant because its a possible (likely) motive for the shooting. A conservative school that likely didn't support this student in the way they thought they should be supported. In a state that is make life hell for trans people. It’s as relevant as any other motive, why bury it? I'm guessing you don't have an issue around reporting when a white supremicist shoots up a Black church? It’s just seems like disingenuious reporting by a serious new outlet.

why do you think the school was conservative? It is presbytarian...

Someone posted earlier that the school is PCA, not PCUSA. That’s the more conservative flavor of Presbyterian.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/tell-difference-presbyterian-denominations/?amp

Thank you for posting that. I've been very confused about it since I thought Presbyterians were just less formal Episcopalians. Didn't realize that there's an entire world of offshoot flavors.

Covenant school is a feeder school for Christ Presbyterian Academy (CPA), also PCA associated. governor lees kids graduated from CPA. The same governor who is banning trans healthcare for minors, etc. really surprised this connection hasn’t been talked about. Any yes, the covenant families are likely republicans who support Lee and rep ogles.

Well this is interesting. Curious why nobody on the news mentioned this yet.

Because that is speculation at best. If it comes out in the manifesto that this was a reason it will be talked about.

Not sure why conservative lunkheads aren’t more nervous. Lots of queer people are mad as hell and aren’t going to take it anymore. I won’t be surprised if they fight back like this more going forward. It’s not like queer people are meek.

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PP here- Its relevant because its a possible (likely) motive for the shooting. A conservative school that likely didn't support this student in the way they thought they should be supported. In a state that is make life hell for trans people. It’s as relevant as any other motive, why bury it? I'm guessing you don't have an issue around reporting when a white supremicist shoots up a Black church? It’s just seems like disingenuious reporting by a serious new outlet.

why do you think the school was conservative? It is presbytarian...

Someone posted earlier that the school is PCA, not PCUSA. That’s the more conservative flavor of Presbyterian.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/tell-difference-presbyterian-denominations/?amp

Thank you for posting that. I've been very confused about it since I thought Presbyterians were just less formal Episcopalians. Didn't realize that there's an entire world of offshoot flavors.

Covenant school is a feeder school for Christ Presbyterian Academy (CPA), also PCA associated. governor lees kids graduated from CPA. The same governor who is banning trans healthcare for minors, etc. really surprised this connection hasn’t been talked about. Any yes, the covenant families are likely republicans who support Lee and rep ogles.

Well this is interesting. Curious why nobody on the news mentioned this yet.

The shooter was probably (and rightly) feeling directly targeted by the anti-trans agenda being pushed by the Governor, the church and its network, and other Tennessee officials.

There is no "anit-trans" agenda.

All of the laws that have been put in place affect CHILDREN. She was not a child.

She was when her parents send her to a school run by a fundamentalist/evangelical offshoot (PCA) of the more mainline accepting Presbyterian church (USA). The vast majority of evangelicals / fundies are also gun humpers too.

It's going to be a shock for assault weapon loving conservatives to have their own turn on them. Conservative adults should keep in mind that those who "Live by the sword, die by the sword" (Matthew 26, 26:52)

I feel so sorry for those poor innocent children who were killed and traumatized.

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PP here- Its relevant because its a possible (likely) motive for the shooting. A conservative school that likely didn't support this student in the way they thought they should be supported. In a state that is make life hell for trans people. It’s as relevant as any other motive, why bury it? I'm guessing you don't have an issue around reporting when a white supremicist shoots up a Black church? It’s just seems like disingenuious reporting by a serious new outlet.

why do you think the school was conservative? It is presbytarian...

Someone posted earlier that the school is PCA, not PCUSA. That’s the more conservative flavor of Presbyterian.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/tell-difference-presbyterian-denominations/?amp

Thank you for posting that. I've been very confused about it since I thought Presbyterians were just less formal Episcopalians. Didn't realize that there's an entire world of offshoot flavors.

Covenant school is a feeder school for Christ Presbyterian Academy (CPA), also PCA associated. governor lees kids graduated from CPA. The same governor who is banning trans healthcare for minors, etc. really surprised this connection hasn’t been talked about. Any yes, the covenant families are likely republicans who support Lee and rep ogles.

Well this is interesting. Curious why nobody on the news mentioned this yet.

Because that is speculation at best. If it comes out in the manifesto that this was a reason it will be talked about.

Not sure why conservative lunkheads aren’t more nervous. Lots of queer people are mad as hell and aren’t going to take it anymore. I won’t be surprised if they fight back like this more going forward. It’s not like queer people are meek.

These t-shirts were sold on Amazon and only recently removed after receiving complaints.

Why aren’t non trans gun t-shirts removed from Amazon? They have similar messages too.

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Amazing work by the police. Real heros.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the shooter get the guns legally and pass a background check? Perhaps the trans may have been a concern because of mental illness and unfit to purchase a gun

1. By definition, any mass shooter is mentally ill.

2. The APA no longer considers trans identity as a mental disorder.

Part of the background check should look into mental health, perhaps a question about transitioning

Let's keep it simple. BAN assault weapons. Then move on to severely regulating the rest of these killing tools.

That won't work.

Assault weapons are just scary looking rifles.

Also sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles.

It's a start. Chip away a little at a time. There's no other way.

Agree. Assault weapons ban is low hanging fruit since it was in place for 10 years and the world did not come to end. Life goes on just find without assault weapons polluting our country.

Manufacturers just designed around the ban during those years. Just as manufacturers designed around California's current ban. The compliant rifles remain just as deadly as any other rifle.



I don't care if one is pro gun or anti gun, it’s just stupid legislation that doesn't solve the problem one way or the other.

So, Madame Gun Genius, only the US, unique among developed nations, has this problem. I guess it’s something inherent in us as a people that we’re all just uncontrollably violent. No way we can solve this with any laws. Nope. We just have to keep destroying families because we’re us.

I agree with your statement. Yes there is something unique about the USA and it's not access to firearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

The other countries with high gun possession rates don't have the school shooting issues that we do. Countries that are literal warzone don't have that issue, lawless narco states don't have that issue. Countries that mandated each house have a firearm never had that issue.

So what makes Americans shoot up schools? It has to be something beyond merely availability.

IT. IS. MENTAL. HEALTH!!!!

America is in a mass mental health crisis.

The pandemic lockdowns and social media amplified mental health problems, and now we are seeing the effects.

And the violence and carnage we are seeing wouldn’t be possible without access to guns. no matter how mentally ill someone is, they wouldn’t be able to perpetrate an attack like this without guns.

Ever hear of the mass knifing attacks in Asia?

Happens in Japanese schools and Chinese schools particularly against young kids. There was even one a few years back were 31 people were killed and 130 injured in a rail station. You absolutely can have an attack on this level without guns, it happens many times each year around the world.

Then you have all the people who get run over on purpose. Like at a Christmas parade last year where 6 were killed and 62 injured. Half of all terror incidents are conducted this way per the below paper.

https://tsaco.bmj.com/content/7/1/e000964

If someone is nuts and wants to kill mass numbers of people there are lots of ways to do it which do not require firearms.

More than 9800 people have been killed so far in 2023 in the US by guns. We're not even a quarter of the way through the year.

I noticed that you did NOT share the total annual number of deaths by knives in all of Asia (a continent much larger than the US). Why is that?

Because as a whole, Asian's don't kill each other at the same rate as other racial groups. This is true for Asian populations in Europe and the USA.

And also, in most of Asia there isn't the easy access to guns that you find in the US.