Clermont LLIV vs Bush Hill

[Anonymous]

We’re trying to decide between Clermont’s LLIV program and going to Bush Hill (our Center). Does anyone have experience with both? Any thoughts on either from parents who have children there? The local program puts all level IV kids together in a class, but they only have enough lvl4 kids to fill half the class, so the other half is gen ed. That’s the only structural difference I’m aware of — they claim the curriculum is the same at both places.

[Anonymous]

If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

[Anonymous]

My child used to attend Springfield Estates and have encountered kids from Clermont. I know bush hill is brand new as an aap center so can’t comment specifically on bush hill. I know Springfield Estates had significantly more homework and seemed more rigorous. Clermont kids seemed happier and less stressed with little or no homework. My child would have 1-2 hours per night and many SEES parents complained about too much homework. It is a nice peer group.

I personally would send my kid to the center. This is a question that is asked all around FCPS though - local IV vs center.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

No it actually won’t. The teacher won’t be able to do some of the recommended units and so forth bc the class will be more heterogenous and have a wider range of abilities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

No it actually won’t. The teacher won’t be able to do some of the recommended units and so forth bc the class will be more heterogenous and have a wider range of abilities.

This is a lie. I have 3 kids who all did Clermont Level IV. It's a strong program. Even when people raved about SEES we opted for Clermont and both my older kids found Twain AAP to be easy. That is the test, do kids who went to the center vs LLIV fair better in MS. Ask the teachers, we did. The answer is "no." And we have seen it for ourselves. Also, both my kids took Algebra I in 7th along with other Clermont kids. Just like some SEES kids did not. Take that for what it's worth. I know have a 3rd grader in Clermont IV AAP, it's fine. We opted for it over BH. BH is new, Clermont LLIV is tried and true. We decided not to mess with a good thing.

[Anonymous]

Sorry for all the typos, I was distracted typing. Hopefully the message wasn't lost.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

Some parts will definitely be the same. The extra units don't always happen. I have found that to be teacher specific, based on my children's experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

No it actually won’t. The teacher won’t be able to do some of the recommended units and so forth bc the class will be more heterogenous and have a wider range of abilities.

This is a lie. I have 3 kids who all did Clermont Level IV. It's a strong program. Even when people raved about SEES we opted for Clermont and both my older kids found Twain AAP to be easy. That is the test, do kids who went to the center vs LLIV fair better in MS. Ask the teachers, we did. The answer is "no." And we have seen it for ourselves. Also, both my kids took Algebra I in 7th along with other Clermont kids. Just like some SEES kids did not. Take that for what it's worth. I know have a 3rd grader in Clermont IV AAP, it's fine. We opted for it over BH. BH is new, Clermont LLIV is tried and true. We decided not to mess with a good thing.

Ok, take a chill pill. It’s not a lie. I didn’t say anything about kids faring better later in life. I simply said some of the units won’t be able to be done in a local level 4. And that is absolute truth. The class will have a wider range of abilities, so some kids wouldn’t be able to do some of the material.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

No it actually won’t. The teacher won’t be able to do some of the recommended units and so forth bc the class will be more heterogenous and have a wider range of abilities.

This is a lie. I have 3 kids who all did Clermont Level IV. It's a strong program. Even when people raved about SEES we opted for Clermont and both my older kids found Twain AAP to be easy. That is the test, do kids who went to the center vs LLIV fair better in MS. Ask the teachers, we did. The answer is "no." And we have seen it for ourselves. Also, both my kids took Algebra I in 7th along with other Clermont kids. Just like some SEES kids did not. Take that for what it's worth. I know have a 3rd grader in Clermont IV AAP, it's fine. We opted for it over BH. BH is new, Clermont LLIV is tried and true. We decided not to mess with a good thing.

Ok, take a chill pill. It’s not a lie. I didn’t say anything about kids faring better later in life. I simply said some of the units won’t be able to be done in a local level 4. And that is absolute truth. The class will have a wider range of abilities, so some kids wouldn’t be able to do some of the material.

And I'm telling you that's not true. The teacher differentiates. She does the units with the level IV kids and something else with the other kids.

[Anonymous]

My child is in 5th grade at Springfield Estates. Our base is Bush Hill. We liked the school but left when SEES was the center. BH just became a center last year. But didn't Clermont have 26 kids who made it? Pretty sure that's a decent peer group.

[Anonymous]

There are only 8 current LLIV 3rd graders at Clermont. You're thinking of the now 5th grade Level IV kids at Clermont. There are 30+ of them who could have gone to SEES but stayed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

No it actually won’t. The teacher won’t be able to do some of the recommended units and so forth bc the class will be more heterogenous and have a wider range of abilities.

This is a lie. I have 3 kids who all did Clermont Level IV. It's a strong program. Even when people raved about SEES we opted for Clermont and both my older kids found Twain AAP to be easy. That is the test, do kids who went to the center vs LLIV fair better in MS. Ask the teachers, we did. The answer is "no." And we have seen it for ourselves. Also, both my kids took Algebra I in 7th along with other Clermont kids. Just like some SEES kids did not. Take that for what it's worth. I know have a 3rd grader in Clermont IV AAP, it's fine. We opted for it over BH. BH is new, Clermont LLIV is tried and true. We decided not to mess with a good thing.

Ok, take a chill pill. It’s not a lie. I didn’t say anything about kids faring better later in life. I simply said some of the units won’t be able to be done in a local level 4. And that is absolute truth. The class will have a wider range of abilities, so some kids wouldn’t be able to do some of the material.

And I'm telling you that's not true. The teacher differentiates. She does the units with the level IV kids and something else with the other kids.

Sure. You go ahead and believe the teacher is going to differentiate like that in an already advanced class. And have two different activities going on. No, I think she’s going to skip some stuff to make her life easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are only 8 current LLIV 3rd graders at Clermont. You're thinking of the now 5th grade Level IV kids at Clermont. There are 30+ of them who could have gone to SEES but stayed.

Just curious, are the 8 in the same class? Or spread over several classes?