Clermont LLIV vs Bush Hill

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

No it actually won’t. The teacher won’t be able to do some of the recommended units and so forth bc the class will be more heterogenous and have a wider range of abilities.

This is a lie. I have 3 kids who all did Clermont Level IV. It's a strong program. Even when people raved about SEES we opted for Clermont and both my older kids found Twain AAP to be easy. That is the test, do kids who went to the center vs LLIV fair better in MS. Ask the teachers, we did. The answer is "no." And we have seen it for ourselves. Also, both my kids took Algebra I in 7th along with other Clermont kids. Just like some SEES kids did not. Take that for what it's worth. I know have a 3rd grader in Clermont IV AAP, it's fine. We opted for it over BH. BH is new, Clermont LLIV is tried and true. We decided not to mess with a good thing.

Ok, take a chill pill. It’s not a lie. I didn’t say anything about kids faring better later in life. I simply said some of the units won’t be able to be done in a local level 4. And that is absolute truth. The class will have a wider range of abilities, so some kids wouldn’t be able to do some of the material.

And I'm telling you that's not true. The teacher differentiates. She does the units with the level IV kids and something else with the other kids.

Sure. You go ahead and believe the teacher is going to differentiate like that in an already advanced class. And have two different activities going on. No, I think she’s going to skip some stuff to make her life easier.

My child is in the class and I had two older children do LLIV at this school, but yes, you know better.

You have no clue what goes on on a daily basis in terms of instruction. You don’t know what units she chooses not to do.

I don't know what kind of school your kid goes to but my child's work comes home every Thursday. Nice try lady!

Seeing your child’s work come home every week doesn’t tell you what units or what parts of a unit the teacher decides not to do because of the wider ranging abilities of kids in a local level 4 class. I stand by what I said, which is teachers may not be able to use all of the techniques and curriculum offered in a local level 4 class.

You're ignorant. OP I am not a mom at Clermont but my child is at a local LLIV. We chose not to go to the center. There are 12 LLIV kids in my 5th graders class and the rest are principal placed. It's a class of 23. This poster doesn't know what she's talking about. Go to both orientations and talk to teachers at both. Like someone said, talk to the MS see if kids in local LLIV are less prepared than kids from Center. I'd bet money that is not the case. Good luck.

I don’t know if you are just stupid or ignorant, or maybe both. I didn’t say they would be less prepared in MS.

Not PP but I have been following this comical thread. So if the children in LLIV won't be less prepared in MS then who the hell cares what unit/instruction they get in LLIV? Seems like a silly reason to choose center over LLIV (due to some random instruction units that don't give your kid an edge anyway). The goal is to ensure whichever place you chose, the child is prepared to compete with their cohorts and is learning and challenged. My child is at a center because our base did not have LLIV. I LOVE our center. I would have chosen it anyway because my son didn't have many friends at his base school, but you poster, who is obsessed with what units an AAP teacher teaches, seem unhinged.

Lol. You’re funny. And really defensive about Level 4.

I could care less. My child is at a center and thriving! I'm just trying to understand your point about units if in the end it means nothing when the kids all come together in MS. So odd.

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

No it actually won’t. The teacher won’t be able to do some of the recommended units and so forth bc the class will be more heterogenous and have a wider range of abilities.

This is a lie. I have 3 kids who all did Clermont Level IV. It's a strong program. Even when people raved about SEES we opted for Clermont and both my older kids found Twain AAP to be easy. That is the test, do kids who went to the center vs LLIV fair better in MS. Ask the teachers, we did. The answer is "no." And we have seen it for ourselves. Also, both my kids took Algebra I in 7th along with other Clermont kids. Just like some SEES kids did not. Take that for what it's worth. I know have a 3rd grader in Clermont IV AAP, it's fine. We opted for it over BH. BH is new, Clermont LLIV is tried and true. We decided not to mess with a good thing.

Ok, take a chill pill. It’s not a lie. I didn’t say anything about kids faring better later in life. I simply said some of the units won’t be able to be done in a local level 4. And that is absolute truth. The class will have a wider range of abilities, so some kids wouldn’t be able to do some of the material.

And I'm telling you that's not true. The teacher differentiates. She does the units with the level IV kids and something else with the other kids.

Sure. You go ahead and believe the teacher is going to differentiate like that in an already advanced class. And have two different activities going on. No, I think she’s going to skip some stuff to make her life easier.

My child is in the class and I had two older children do LLIV at this school, but yes, you know better.

You have no clue what goes on on a daily basis in terms of instruction. You don’t know what units she chooses not to do.

I don't know what kind of school your kid goes to but my child's work comes home every Thursday. Nice try lady!

Seeing your child’s work come home every week doesn’t tell you what units or what parts of a unit the teacher decides not to do because of the wider ranging abilities of kids in a local level 4 class. I stand by what I said, which is teachers may not be able to use all of the techniques and curriculum offered in a local level 4 class.

You're ignorant. OP I am not a mom at Clermont but my child is at a local LLIV. We chose not to go to the center. There are 12 LLIV kids in my 5th graders class and the rest are principal placed. It's a class of 23. This poster doesn't know what she's talking about. Go to both orientations and talk to teachers at both. Like someone said, talk to the MS see if kids in local LLIV are less prepared than kids from Center. I'd bet money that is not the case. Good luck.

I don’t know if you are just stupid or ignorant, or maybe both. I didn’t say they would be less prepared in MS.

Not PP but I have been following this comical thread. So if the children in LLIV won't be less prepared in MS then who the hell cares what unit/instruction they get in LLIV? Seems like a silly reason to choose center over LLIV (due to some random instruction units that don't give your kid an edge anyway). The goal is to ensure whichever place you chose, the child is prepared to compete with their cohorts and is learning and challenged. My child is at a center because our base did not have LLIV. I LOVE our center. I would have chosen it anyway because my son didn't have many friends at his base school, but you poster, who is obsessed with what units an AAP teacher teaches, seem unhinged.

Lol. You’re funny. And really defensive about Level 4.

I could care less. My child is at a center and thriving! I'm just trying to understand your point about units if in the end it means nothing when the kids all come together in MS. So odd.

Using that logic, one could argue what’s the point of AAP at all then? If they all come together for MS who cares? Point is, in my opinion, the center offers stronger AAP academics and a stronger cohort than a local level IV. You don’t have to agree with me at all. I really don’t care. I have the knowledge and experience in FCPS that you will never have or really understand.

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

No it actually won’t. The teacher won’t be able to do some of the recommended units and so forth bc the class will be more heterogenous and have a wider range of abilities.

This is a lie. I have 3 kids who all did Clermont Level IV. It's a strong program. Even when people raved about SEES we opted for Clermont and both my older kids found Twain AAP to be easy. That is the test, do kids who went to the center vs LLIV fair better in MS. Ask the teachers, we did. The answer is "no." And we have seen it for ourselves. Also, both my kids took Algebra I in 7th along with other Clermont kids. Just like some SEES kids did not. Take that for what it's worth. I know have a 3rd grader in Clermont IV AAP, it's fine. We opted for it over BH. BH is new, Clermont LLIV is tried and true. We decided not to mess with a good thing.

Ok, take a chill pill. It’s not a lie. I didn’t say anything about kids faring better later in life. I simply said some of the units won’t be able to be done in a local level 4. And that is absolute truth. The class will have a wider range of abilities, so some kids wouldn’t be able to do some of the material.

And I'm telling you that's not true. The teacher differentiates. She does the units with the level IV kids and something else with the other kids.

Sure. You go ahead and believe the teacher is going to differentiate like that in an already advanced class. And have two different activities going on. No, I think she’s going to skip some stuff to make her life easier.

My child is in the class and I had two older children do LLIV at this school, but yes, you know better.

You have no clue what goes on on a daily basis in terms of instruction. You don’t know what units she chooses not to do.

I don't know what kind of school your kid goes to but my child's work comes home every Thursday. Nice try lady!

Seeing your child’s work come home every week doesn’t tell you what units or what parts of a unit the teacher decides not to do because of the wider ranging abilities of kids in a local level 4 class. I stand by what I said, which is teachers may not be able to use all of the techniques and curriculum offered in a local level 4 class.

You're ignorant. OP I am not a mom at Clermont but my child is at a local LLIV. We chose not to go to the center. There are 12 LLIV kids in my 5th graders class and the rest are principal placed. It's a class of 23. This poster doesn't know what she's talking about. Go to both orientations and talk to teachers at both. Like someone said, talk to the MS see if kids in local LLIV are less prepared than kids from Center. I'd bet money that is not the case. Good luck.

I don’t know if you are just stupid or ignorant, or maybe both. I didn’t say they would be less prepared in MS.

Not PP but I have been following this comical thread. So if the children in LLIV won't be less prepared in MS then who the hell cares what unit/instruction they get in LLIV? Seems like a silly reason to choose center over LLIV (due to some random instruction units that don't give your kid an edge anyway). The goal is to ensure whichever place you chose, the child is prepared to compete with their cohorts and is learning and challenged. My child is at a center because our base did not have LLIV. I LOVE our center. I would have chosen it anyway because my son didn't have many friends at his base school, but you poster, who is obsessed with what units an AAP teacher teaches, seem unhinged.

Lol. You’re funny. And really defensive about Level 4.

I could care less. My child is at a center and thriving! I'm just trying to understand your point about units if in the end it means nothing when the kids all come together in MS. So odd.

Using that logic, one could argue what’s the point of AAP at all then? If they all come together for MS who cares? Point is, in my opinion, the center offers stronger AAP academics and a stronger cohort than a local level IV. You don’t have to agree with me at all. I really don’t care. I have the knowledge and experience in FCPS that you will never have or really understand.

Yeah, you should like it.

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re happy at Clermont, why would you change schools? Local program is fine.

So her child can be in a full class with only center eligible kids. It will be a stronger curriculum overall.

Ummm, no. The curriculum will be exactly the same.

No it actually won’t. The teacher won’t be able to do some of the recommended units and so forth bc the class will be more heterogenous and have a wider range of abilities.

This is a lie. I have 3 kids who all did Clermont Level IV. It's a strong program. Even when people raved about SEES we opted for Clermont and both my older kids found Twain AAP to be easy. That is the test, do kids who went to the center vs LLIV fair better in MS. Ask the teachers, we did. The answer is "no." And we have seen it for ourselves. Also, both my kids took Algebra I in 7th along with other Clermont kids. Just like some SEES kids did not. Take that for what it's worth. I know have a 3rd grader in Clermont IV AAP, it's fine. We opted for it over BH. BH is new, Clermont LLIV is tried and true. We decided not to mess with a good thing.

Ok, take a chill pill. It’s not a lie. I didn’t say anything about kids faring better later in life. I simply said some of the units won’t be able to be done in a local level 4. And that is absolute truth. The class will have a wider range of abilities, so some kids wouldn’t be able to do some of the material.

And I'm telling you that's not true. The teacher differentiates. She does the units with the level IV kids and something else with the other kids.

Sure. You go ahead and believe the teacher is going to differentiate like that in an already advanced class. And have two different activities going on. No, I think she’s going to skip some stuff to make her life easier.

My child is in the class and I had two older children do LLIV at this school, but yes, you know better.

You have no clue what goes on on a daily basis in terms of instruction. You don’t know what units she chooses not to do.

I don't know what kind of school your kid goes to but my child's work comes home every Thursday. Nice try lady!

Seeing your child’s work come home every week doesn’t tell you what units or what parts of a unit the teacher decides not to do because of the wider ranging abilities of kids in a local level 4 class. I stand by what I said, which is teachers may not be able to use all of the techniques and curriculum offered in a local level 4 class.

You're ignorant. OP I am not a mom at Clermont but my child is at a local LLIV. We chose not to go to the center. There are 12 LLIV kids in my 5th graders class and the rest are principal placed. It's a class of 23. This poster doesn't know what she's talking about. Go to both orientations and talk to teachers at both. Like someone said, talk to the MS see if kids in local LLIV are less prepared than kids from Center. I'd bet money that is not the case. Good luck.

I don’t know if you are just stupid or ignorant, or maybe both. I didn’t say they would be less prepared in MS.

Not PP but I have been following this comical thread. So if the children in LLIV won't be less prepared in MS then who the hell cares what unit/instruction they get in LLIV? Seems like a silly reason to choose center over LLIV (due to some random instruction units that don't give your kid an edge anyway). The goal is to ensure whichever place you chose, the child is prepared to compete with their cohorts and is learning and challenged. My child is at a center because our base did not have LLIV. I LOVE our center. I would have chosen it anyway because my son didn't have many friends at his base school, but you poster, who is obsessed with what units an AAP teacher teaches, seem unhinged.

Lol. You’re funny. And really defensive about Level 4.

I could care less. My child is at a center and thriving! I'm just trying to understand your point about units if in the end it means nothing when the kids all come together in MS. So odd.

Using that logic, one could argue what’s the point of AAP at all then? If they all come together for MS who cares? Point is, in my opinion, the center offers stronger AAP academics and a stronger cohort than a local level IV. You don’t have to agree with me at all. I really don’t care. I have the knowledge and experience in FCPS that you will never have or really understand.

PP, can you share your qualifications or source of knowledge, please?

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OMG, let it go.

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Ha, OP here, apparently I inadvertently triggered a flame war on DCUM. I can cross that off my bucket list. We’re going to stay at Clermont. Known quantity, happy with the school, love the teachers. Hopefully others will choose to stay too and we’ll have a good cohort. Thank you all (or at least some of you) for the valuable feedback.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha, OP here, apparently I inadvertently triggered a flame war on DCUM. I can cross that off my bucket list. We’re going to stay at Clermont. Known quantity, happy with the school, love the teachers. Hopefully others will choose to stay too and we’ll have a good cohort. Thank you all (or at least some of you) for the valuable feedback.

Good choice. You will love Mrs. Trope, Leith, Terrone, and Cox.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha, OP here, apparently I inadvertently triggered a flame war on DCUM. I can cross that off my bucket list. We’re going to stay at Clermont. Known quantity, happy with the school, love the teachers. Hopefully others will choose to stay too and we’ll have a good cohort. Thank you all (or at least some of you) for the valuable feedback.

Good choice. You will love Mrs. Trope, Leith, Terrone, and Cox.

The center would also have been a good choice too.

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Yes, but which is the better choice?

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If both are good, then it doesn't matter which is "better" unless you like to drive yourself crazy. Go to orientations, pick whichever one draws you in...for any reason. Your child will be fine. AAP is good, but it is NOT the "secret sauce" of success. If your child is naturally a go-getter, s/he will be a go-getter with or without AAP. If your child isn't (and that's ok...different personalities have different strengths), AAP is not going to make him/her one.

Kids deserve to be challenged in school, but IMO, they pretty much succeed at a rate equal to their efforts regardless of AAP participation.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, but which is the better choice?

It depends on what you are looking for. Did you not read this thread?! The answer will be different for each family.

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What are the thoughts on this now? How is the Bush Hill Center?