Stats on CES Acceptance?

[Anonymous]

Anyone know where I can find data on how many apply to the CES program and how many are actually accepted?

[Anonymous]

There is a report MCPS produced which includes CES and the MS magnets, number of kids evaluated, number offered admission, and percentages. It's been posted on here before but I can't find it right now. Hopefully someone who has posted it before can post it again.

[Anonymous]

Here's the 2018 results:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/schoolchoice/Update%20Enrich%20Accelerate%20Prog%20Place%20Results.pdf

Anonymous wrote:There is a report MCPS produced which includes CES and the MS magnets, number of kids evaluated, number offered admission, and percentages. It's been posted on here before but I can't find it right now. Hopefully someone who has posted it before can post it again.

[Anonymous]

Interesting, thank you! So as a percentage of those invited to CES's, white kids stayed the same, while Asians went slightly down, and black and Hispanic kids went up.

[Anonymous]

You may be interested in this other publication re: the Choice Study outcomes (https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/info/choice/ChoiceStudyReport-Version2-20160307.pdf). County's effort is to address the 'gap' and bring up equality. It may not be best just to compare among race/ethnicity by looking at the percentage. It's more about SES, i.e., even if the percentage remains similar for one group, the composition of students of the same group would likely be very different in their SES.

Anonymous wrote:Interesting, thank you! So as a percentage of those invited to CES's, white kids stayed the same, while Asians went slightly down, and black and Hispanic kids went up.

[Anonymous]

The chart says for 2018 728 kids were assessed and 122 admitted. I got the impression the program had more than 122 students. Am I missing something?

[Anonymous]

Actually, according to the report, the number of students who received an invitation by race for CES shows that Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics had an increase. The Asians and American Indians are the only groups that didn't have a CES invitation increase.

[Anonymous]

Refer to Table B1.

Anonymous wrote:The chart says for 2018 728 kids were assessed and 122 admitted. I got the impression the program had more than 122 students. Am I missing something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The chart says for 2018 728 kids were assessed and 122 admitted. I got the impression the program had more than 122 students. Am I missing something?

You're looking at the wrong chart. That's the chart that is only kids participating in the Young Scholars Program and a couple other programs. The one you want to look at has colors.

[Anonymous]

Comparing 2016 (parent nominated) to 2018 (universal screening at all CESs) there are also interesting numbers.

Looks like for " considered " Hispanics went up 300+ percent, Blacks up 150+ percent, Whites 100+ percent, and Asians 50+ percent.

[Anonymous]

Acceptance rate (% total invited of total applied) for 2018 -

CES: 11.1

Eastern Humanities middle school magnet: 3.6
Takoma Park STEM middle school magnet: 3.4
Clemente/MLK Humanities middle school magnet: 24.0
MLK STEM middle school magnet: 15.4

Blair STEM high school magnet: 23.3
Montgomery IB high school magnet: 18.4
Poolesville Ecology high school magnet: 24.7
Poolesville Humanities high school magnet: 23.5
Poolesville STEM high school magnet: 17.9

Please note that the bolded are not calculated in the same way as the other percentages: the number of "total applied" is 3989, and is the same for Eastern and TP, which leads me to believe that they considered the entire pool of applicants, of which the accepted portion then chose either Eastern or TP. The resulting percentage is therefore artificially lower than it should be. If the two programs are roughly the same size and selectivity, each percentage should be doubled.

It's difficult to draw conclusions about selectivity from these numbers, since as students get older, the number of applicants decreases and self-selects - those applicants are presumably much more capable than the average student. Entry into the high school magnet programs is probably very difficult indeed.

[Anonymous]

12:10 again.

The reason the acceptance rate seems lower for the downcounty middle school magnets (Eastern and TP) than for the upcounty ones is that MCPS did not invite as many children to apply upcounty - apparently it was still the old self-application system.

I know this is a thread about the CES, but it's interesting to see the whole picture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Comparing 2016 (parent nominated) to 2018 (universal screening at all CESs) there are also interesting numbers.

Looks like for " considered " Hispanics went up 300+ percent, Blacks up 150+ percent, Whites 100+ percent, and Asians 50+ percent.

Cool, more test days for all: 3 MAP days, 1 Cogat day, and one state test day per year.

[Anonymous]

CES
2017-2018 change in invited students
Asian 30.7 to 23.8 -12 students
Black 14.2 to 16.8 +36 students
Hispanic 11.3 to 14.4 +36 students
White 36. to 37.2 +51 students


FARMS
+79 students


So the big winners are white, black, Hispanic and FARMS students. Asian students lost big time especially given that the number of seats increased by a lot but their numbers went down.

[Anonymous]

This is the same pattern as for the MS magnets. Number of Asian students went down and the biggest increase was in white students.