Stats on CES Acceptance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Acceptance rate (% total invited of total applied) for 2018 -

CES: 11.1

Eastern Humanities middle school magnet: 3.6
Takoma Park STEM middle school magnet: 3.4
Clemente/MLK Humanities middle school magnet: 24.0
MLK STEM middle school magnet: 15.4

Blair STEM high school magnet: 23.3
Montgomery IB high school magnet: 18.4
Poolesville Ecology high school magnet: 24.7
Poolesville Humanities high school magnet: 23.5
Poolesville STEM high school magnet: 17.9

Please note that the bolded are not calculated in the same way as the other percentages: the number of "total applied" is 3989, and is the same for Eastern and TP, which leads me to believe that they considered the entire pool of applicants, of which the accepted portion then chose either Eastern or TP. The resulting percentage is therefore artificially lower than it should be. If the two programs are roughly the same size and selectivity, each percentage should be doubled.

It's difficult to draw conclusions about selectivity from these numbers, since as students get older, the number of applicants decreases and self-selects - those applicants are presumably much more capable than the average student. Entry into the high school magnet programs is probably very difficult indeed.

The HS magnets did not have universal screening that year did they? Surprisingly high admission for Blair otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Comparing 2016 (parent nominated) to 2018 (universal screening at all CESs) there are also interesting numbers.

Looks like for " considered " Hispanics went up 300+ percent, Blacks up 150+ percent, Whites 100+ percent, and Asians 50+ percent.

This suggests eligible candidates were overlooked prior to 2018 to the advantage of, in order, Asians and, to a lesser extent, Whites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Acceptance rate (% total invited of total applied) for 2018 -

CES: 11.1

Eastern Humanities middle school magnet: 3.6
Takoma Park STEM middle school magnet: 3.4
Clemente/MLK Humanities middle school magnet: 24.0
MLK STEM middle school magnet: 15.4

Blair STEM high school magnet: 23.3
Montgomery IB high school magnet: 18.4
Poolesville Ecology high school magnet: 24.7
Poolesville Humanities high school magnet: 23.5
Poolesville STEM high school magnet: 17.9

Please note that the bolded are not calculated in the same way as the other percentages: the number of "total applied" is 3989, and is the same for Eastern and TP, which leads me to believe that they considered the entire pool of applicants, of which the accepted portion then chose either Eastern or TP. The resulting percentage is therefore artificially lower than it should be. If the two programs are roughly the same size and selectivity, each percentage should be doubled.

It's difficult to draw conclusions about selectivity from these numbers, since as students get older, the number of applicants decreases and self-selects - those applicants are presumably much more capable than the average student. Entry into the high school magnet programs is probably very difficult indeed.

The HS magnets did not have universal screening that year did they? Surprisingly high admission for Blair otherwise.

Total applicants for each high school magnet program was in the 400-600 range, except for the Montgomery IB, which was about 1000. So I would guess no universal screening.

[Anonymous]

Not necessarily. That is a really rough first cut that captured about half the grade and many of those kids were not really in the running. I think the more valid data would be kids who scored 90th percentile and higher on Cogat and MAP and have a certain GPA.

The FARMS issue complicates things because there's a strong racial component.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Comparing 2016 (parent nominated) to 2018 (universal screening at all CESs) there are also interesting numbers.

Looks like for " considered " Hispanics went up 300+ percent, Blacks up 150+ percent, Whites 100+ percent, and Asians 50+ percent.

This suggests eligible candidates were overlooked prior to 2018 to the advantage of, in order, Asians and, to a lesser extent, Whites.

Right. There was an imbalance regarding knowledge of the existence of the CES (and possibly differences in student expectations in families?). That imbalance has been corrected.

[Anonymous]

This represents the top 50th percentile of MCPS but only the top 2-3 or 10 percentile is picked for the magnets. Looking at the makeup of the top 50th percentile of those who are "eligible" tells you nothing except that MCPS is trying to manipulate the data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Comparing 2016 (parent nominated) to 2018 (universal screening at all CESs) there are also interesting numbers.

Looks like for " considered " Hispanics went up 300+ percent, Blacks up 150+ percent, Whites 100+ percent, and Asians 50+ percent.

This suggests eligible candidates were overlooked prior to 2018 to the advantage of, in order, Asians and, to a lesser extent, Whites.

Right. There was an imbalance regarding knowledge of the existence of the CES (and possibly differences in student expectations in families?). That imbalance has been corrected.

Well, maybe corrected in offers. Does that track through to acceptances? Hope so. Expect the yield will go up a bit each year as various communities become more familiar with the realities of the magnet programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This represents the top 50th percentile of MCPS but only the top 2-3 or 10 percentile is picked for the magnets. Looking at the makeup of the top 50th percentile of those who are "eligible" tells you nothing except that MCPS is trying to manipulate the data.

Are you saying that the other half has a higher percentage of minorities and FARMS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This represents the top 50th percentile of MCPS but only the top 2-3 or 10 percentile is picked for the magnets. Looking at the makeup of the top 50th percentile of those who are "eligible" tells you nothing except that MCPS is trying to manipulate the data.

Are you saying that the other half has a higher percentage of minorities and FARMS?