South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pausing to note upside of this thread: It's constructive! No one is salivating at the idea of another school's demise like the MONAs are on the other one. Damn.

Just name calling, threats, fighting about house values, which school should get which neighborhood... let’s not pat ourselves on our backs too hard.

There are some fundamental misunderstandings as to why the schools perform as they do, how they are made up, and what we can do about it.
Also, it seems north Arlington has already decided what is important for APS. We don’t really get a say now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pausing to note upside of this thread: It's constructive! No one is salivating at the idea of another school's demise like the MONAs are on the other one. Damn.

Just name calling, threats, fighting about house values, which school should get which neighborhood... let’s not pat ourselves on our backs too hard.

There are some fundamental misunderstandings as to why the schools perform as they do, how they are made up, and what we can do about it.
Also, it seems north Arlington has already decided what is important for APS. We don’t really get a say now.

Are there? I think the answers to those questions are fairly obvious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That area was Vietnamese at the time I think. It became Latino immigrants became mostly Latino.
There are also more working/lower class whites living in south Arlington.
They have been mostly gentrified out.

I live not far from there and actually think the Latino families are being displaced/replaced by recent Muslim immigrants. Lots of families from the Middle East and North Africa.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree PP, but the point is that if enough wealth and retail comes to the area, the owners of the local "slums" like Barcroft Apartments will perhaps see an incentive to sell out. Maybe their taxes will get too high. Or they realize that poorer folks don't want to live in an area where things are too expensive for them an they have too many vacancies. Isn't that what gentrification is all about - and supporters of keeping the Pike poor care about - catering to the lower income residents? Gentrification is what raised rents and values in North Arlington that led to so few MARKS in North Arlington. If landlords can get more money for newer nicer places, they will.

The metro gentrified north arlington.
You don’t understand. Delashmutt owns Barcroft, and aside from making the family a fortune as it is today, they’ve sold/transferred their development rights. Add to that the county putting every barrier possible in place for something like townhomes to be built on the site of current garden apartments? It doesn’t make sense to do anything else, aside from continuing as it is now.
I suppose they could renovate and turn them into condos ( like west village).
But understand the county has worked tirelessly to lock in that housing.
Losing Barcroft Apartments is not acceptable to AH policy in Arlington.
You aren’t understanding that county is actively preventing the market from gentrification.

Maybe the County cares about people who are not as overprivileged as many others in Arlington are. Maybe they, too, deserve a place to live. Maybe affordable housing plays a role in that.

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It just seems like rich white people won’t be content until they have claimed every inch of land in Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It just seems like rich white people won’t be content until they have claimed every inch of land in Arlington.

I think S Arlington UMC is more about people clinging on to a decent place to commute into the District from and want schools that suit them. I'd like to see the area serve both groups, but the County seems bent on cramming all the low income housing around the Pike, away from the Metro, when it could be building more units near there. Ever since the street car died, adding more density to the Pike seems stupid.

[Anonymous]

Best kept secret 16 X bus up Columbia Pike into DC. The County needs more commercial tenants. The school board is in a tough spot but Arlington is at the precipice of a tipping point. School Board is under pressure. Corporations, including Amazon, are watching. UMC and MV in S Arlington are speaking up. Pressure is on...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Best kept secret 16 X bus up Columbia Pike into DC. The County needs more commercial tenants. The school board is in a tough spot but Arlington is at the precipice of a tipping point. School Board is under pressure. Corporations, including Amazon, are watching. UMC and MV in S Arlington are speaking up. Pressure is on...

Tipping point of what?

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Anonymous wrote:It just seems like rich white people won’t be content until they have claimed every inch of land in Arlington.

No, I don't think that's it. But maintaining current levels sounds pretty fair to me. Trying to return to the levels of an arbitrary year (almost 20 years ago) by building more and more CAFs all in the same small radius is terrible policy. Arlington, as a whole, was much more affordable in 2000. That doesn't mean that 22204 and Buckingham should have 10,000 additional units of AH to make up for everything demolished along the Orange Line and the rising market prices across the entire DC region. There is a limit to what we can afford to do, both in terms of construction, land, and the wraparound services necessary for families living in that housing to be successful. I think we're pretty close to the limit and can't even fathom how 10,000 more units could be funded without serious cuts to current services. And I do not support any cuts to APS while we add additional units of family housing bringing even more kids who need APS to remain a solid school system to support their hopes and dreams. We can't control by-right development. We CAN control development that the county funds and which we know brings children into the system. Until we can get a handle on capacity, I think we need to back off on building any more CAFs in the neighborhoods with seat shortages and where the schools are highly segregated.

Now, if someone were to propose a CAF in the Tuckahoe walk zone, I'd be all for it. Build the next project there rather than at the Red Cross site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree PP, but the point is that if enough wealth and retail comes to the area, the owners of the local "slums" like Barcroft Apartments will perhaps see an incentive to sell out. Maybe their taxes will get too high. Or they realize that poorer folks don't want to live in an area where things are too expensive for them an they have too many vacancies. Isn't that what gentrification is all about - and supporters of keeping the Pike poor care about - catering to the lower income residents? Gentrification is what raised rents and values in North Arlington that led to so few MARKS in North Arlington. If landlords can get more money for newer nicer places, they will.

Maybe the County cares about people who are not as overprivileged as many others in Arlington are. Maybe they, too, deserve a place to live. Maybe affordable housing plays a role in that.

Please. It’s about money. That’s all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Best kept secret 16 X bus up Columbia Pike into DC. The County needs more commercial tenants. The school board is in a tough spot but Arlington is at the precipice of a tipping point. School Board is under pressure. Corporations, including Amazon, are watching. UMC and MV in S Arlington are speaking up. Pressure is on...

Since you mention the 16X ... I wonder if fairfax county has prevented redevelopment of the culmore apartments in the same way that Arlington has done with Barcroft.

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16X is awesome.

[Anonymous]

Well, the county is on the cusp of allowing another caf family project right on route 50 on the south end of buckingham. And they approved multiple cafs in the penrose area. Keep stuffing it in. All of these projects rely on county money through ahif loans.

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Creating More cafs means less market rate housing, which means rent goes up and the middle class moves out.

The middle class used to be able to live in north Arlington. My boomer colleagues are puzzled that I wouldn’t just move and send my kid to ashlawn or long branch. That’s what they did in the 80’s.
Of course they will be selling their shitty little homes for a million dollars. Would that I could afford them, and the deferred maintainance they will inevitably demand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Creating More cafs means less market rate housing, which means rent goes up and the middle class moves out.

The middle class used to be able to live in north Arlington. My boomer colleagues are puzzled that I wouldn’t just move and send my kid to ashlawn or long branch. That’s what they did in the 80’s.
Of course they will be selling their shitty little homes for a million dollars. Would that I could afford them, and the deferred maintainance they will inevitably demand.

Yes, that's because Arlington politics caters to the wealthy and the destitute. It's kinda funny -- back in the late 80s, the county manager issued a doom and gloom scenario that without affordable housing we'd just turn into a community of childless yuppies, like Clark Griswold's neighbors in Christmas Vacation. The proverbial soulless suburb. I think that's an anxiety or inferiority complex the county's betters has always had.