Who did you think killed JonBenet?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if Santa guy snuck into their house to "visit" JonBenet, woke her up quietly and got her to eat a snack of pineapple...you think that he would be wearing a ski mask? Wouldn't a strange person in a ski mask freak a little kid out?

Bottom line is - the Ramseys said that JonBenet fell asleep in the car and that Patsy her to bed.

We know from the pineapple that JonBenet was awake at some point AFTER arriving home. This idea that a sex predator would set up a little tea party with a snack of pineapple for JonBenet is ridiculous.

JB was asleep in the car when John put her to bed. Then he sent Patsy to help her get ready for bed. This would have woken her up. After Patsy left the room she went upstairs to the third floor. Burke went downstairs because he wanted to play with a toy. His dad heard him and went to stay with him. Perhaps unbeknownst to the parents JB now in bed and wondering what she missed out on after falling asleep in the car went down stairs. She would have gone to kitchen first. Maybe she peeked to the next room and saw it was just her brother and dad playing with a toy. She knew she was supposed to be in bed so she grabbed a few pieces of pineapple from the bowl on the counter by just touching the pineapple not the bowl and then went back to bed. Burke could have gotten the pineapple out when he came down to play with the toy. He remembers playing with the toy but not eating the pineapple. He said in his interview with Dr. Phil he can't remember what he ate 20 years ago. I think he got the bowl out before he played with the toy. John came in after and did not know Burke had put the bowl on the counter. None of them knew that JB had snuck downstairs for a minute just to make sure she wasn't missing anything. Kids go to the refrigerator or cabinet all the time and get something to eat. I find my kids making toast downstairs after I think they are in bed. No big deal. I don't think Santa had a tea party with JB. Also when you put one kid to bed and the other one is still up the first kid often gets back up because the sibling is up. how many times do parents carry sleeping kids or babies from a car and put them to bed and they are back up? About 50% of the time in my house. I think the pineapple was a red herring. It was an ordinary bowl of pineapple that 2 kids helped themselves to before bed without the parents knowing. I think that red herring stumped the entire police force.

The pineapple is significant simply because the parents deny any knowledge of it at all. Patsy couldn't remember if she had bought it from the store. You wouldn't buy fresh cut pineapple from the store more than a week before you actually used it. Why on earth would she not remember at least buying the stuff and having it in her refrigerator?

If she was planning to use the pineapple on pancakes during Christmas breakfast - of course she would remember picking it up from the store. It's just the mundane little details like this that make the pineapple significant. She either did or didn't buy any that week - which is it? She's lying about the pineapple. Why?

If someone showed me some random item from my pantry bought within the past year I can about guarantee you that I would remember buying it and probably from which store and whether or not it was on sale when I bought it. I think that most of us can say they same thing.

What type of pineapple was it - fresh? Cut? Sliced? If she didn't buy it did she cut it? Did the housekeeper or John?

Was it removed from the refrigerator? Also, the iced tea glass only had Patsy's fingerprints, correct? Could she have taken it out and mistakenly put t in the decorative bowl? Maybe she was tired from the night before or had a drink or two?

O.k....so we are to believe that she was so tipsy drunk that she fell asleep in her party clothes and makeup. Put together a sloppy little tea party for her daughter and then just...forgot about doing it?

Patsy is the only one who talked about doing the shopping. She went to the grocery store, she planned Christmas breakfast. John said that the kids often put fruit on their pancakes. Pineapple was a favorite....of course you would buy pineapple, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, if Santa guy snuck into their house to "visit" JonBenet, woke her up quietly and got her to eat a snack of pineapple...you think that he would be wearing a ski mask? Wouldn't a strange person in a ski mask freak a little kid out?

Bottom line is - the Ramseys said that JonBenet fell asleep in the car and that Patsy her to bed.

We know from the pineapple that JonBenet was awake at some point AFTER arriving home. This idea that a sex predator would set up a little tea party with a snack of pineapple for JonBenet is ridiculous.

JB was asleep in the car when John put her to bed. Then he sent Patsy to help her get ready for bed. This would have woken her up. After Patsy left the room she went upstairs to the third floor. Burke went downstairs because he wanted to play with a toy. His dad heard him and went to stay with him. Perhaps unbeknownst to the parents JB now in bed and wondering what she missed out on after falling asleep in the car went down stairs. She would have gone to kitchen first. Maybe she peeked to the next room and saw it was just her brother and dad playing with a toy. She knew she was supposed to be in bed so she grabbed a few pieces of pineapple from the bowl on the counter by just touching the pineapple not the bowl and then went back to bed. Burke could have gotten the pineapple out when he came down to play with the toy. He remembers playing with the toy but not eating the pineapple. He said in his interview with Dr. Phil he can't remember what he ate 20 years ago. I think he got the bowl out before he played with the toy. John came in after and did not know Burke had put the bowl on the counter. None of them knew that JB had snuck downstairs for a minute just to make sure she wasn't missing anything. Kids go to the refrigerator or cabinet all the time and get something to eat. I find my kids making toast downstairs after I think they are in bed. No big deal. I don't think Santa had a tea party with JB. Also when you put one kid to bed and the other one is still up the first kid often gets back up because the sibling is up. how many times do parents carry sleeping kids or babies from a car and put them to bed and they are back up? About 50% of the time in my house. I think the pineapple was a red herring. It was an ordinary bowl of pineapple that 2 kids helped themselves to before bed without the parents knowing. I think that red herring stumped the entire police force.

The pineapple is significant simply because the parents deny any knowledge of it at all. Patsy couldn't remember if she had bought it from the store. You wouldn't buy fresh cut pineapple from the store more than a week before you actually used it. Why on earth would she not remember at least buying the stuff and having it in her refrigerator?

If she was planning to use the pineapple on pancakes during Christmas breakfast - of course she would remember picking it up from the store. It's just the mundane little details like this that make the pineapple significant. She either did or didn't buy any that week - which is it? She's lying about the pineapple. Why?

If someone showed me some random item from my pantry bought within the past year I can about guarantee you that I would remember buying it and probably from which store and whether or not it was on sale when I bought it. I think that most of us can say they same thing.

What type of pineapple was it - fresh? Cut? Sliced? If she didn't buy it did she cut it? Did the housekeeper or John?

Was it removed from the refrigerator? Also, the iced tea glass only had Patsy's fingerprints, correct? Could she have taken it out and mistakenly put t in the decorative bowl? Maybe she was tired from the night before or had a drink or two?

O.k....so we are to believe that she was so tipsy drunk that she fell asleep in her party clothes and makeup. Put together a sloppy little tea party for her daughter and then just...forgot about doing it?

Patsy is the only one who talked about doing the shopping. She went to the grocery store, she planned Christmas breakfast. John said that the kids often put fruit on their pancakes. Pineapple was a favorite....of course you would buy pineapple, right?

If she bought pineapple so often, then of course she forget when she last bought it. We buy cereal all the time, I have no clue the last time I bought it.

[Anonymous]

I spend $1700 a month on groceries, I don't remember everything I buy FFS. I buy a lot.

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How did the flashlight not break the skin though? Or whatever object?

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It would seem that she would know whether she picked up pineapple from the store. Either definitely "yes - I picked up fresh pineapple" or definitely "no - I did not pick up fresh pineapple". That's all she had to say. But what she said was "I don't remember".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, if Santa guy snuck into their house to "visit" JonBenet, woke her up quietly and got her to eat a snack of pineapple...you think that he would be wearing a ski mask? Wouldn't a strange person in a ski mask freak a little kid out?

Bottom line is - the Ramseys said that JonBenet fell asleep in the car and that Patsy her to bed.

We know from the pineapple that JonBenet was awake at some point AFTER arriving home. This idea that a sex predator would set up a little tea party with a snack of pineapple for JonBenet is ridiculous.

JB was asleep in the car when John put her to bed. Then he sent Patsy to help her get ready for bed. This would have woken her up. After Patsy left the room she went upstairs to the third floor. Burke went downstairs because he wanted to play with a toy. His dad heard him and went to stay with him. Perhaps unbeknownst to the parents JB now in bed and wondering what she missed out on after falling asleep in the car went down stairs. She would have gone to kitchen first. Maybe she peeked to the next room and saw it was just her brother and dad playing with a toy. She knew she was supposed to be in bed so she grabbed a few pieces of pineapple from the bowl on the counter by just touching the pineapple not the bowl and then went back to bed. Burke could have gotten the pineapple out when he came down to play with the toy. He remembers playing with the toy but not eating the pineapple. He said in his interview with Dr. Phil he can't remember what he ate 20 years ago. I think he got the bowl out before he played with the toy. John came in after and did not know Burke had put the bowl on the counter. None of them knew that JB had snuck downstairs for a minute just to make sure she wasn't missing anything. Kids go to the refrigerator or cabinet all the time and get something to eat. I find my kids making toast downstairs after I think they are in bed. No big deal. I don't think Santa had a tea party with JB. Also when you put one kid to bed and the other one is still up the first kid often gets back up because the sibling is up. how many times do parents carry sleeping kids or babies from a car and put them to bed and they are back up? About 50% of the time in my house. I think the pineapple was a red herring. It was an ordinary bowl of pineapple that 2 kids helped themselves to before bed without the parents knowing. I think that red herring stumped the entire police force.

The pineapple is significant simply because the parents deny any knowledge of it at all. Patsy couldn't remember if she had bought it from the store. You wouldn't buy fresh cut pineapple from the store more than a week before you actually used it. Why on earth would she not remember at least buying the stuff and having it in her refrigerator?

If she was planning to use the pineapple on pancakes during Christmas breakfast - of course she would remember picking it up from the store. It's just the mundane little details like this that make the pineapple significant. She either did or didn't buy any that week - which is it? She's lying about the pineapple. Why?

If someone showed me some random item from my pantry bought within the past year I can about guarantee you that I would remember buying it and probably from which store and whether or not it was on sale when I bought it. I think that most of us can say they same thing.

Your spouse never picks things up at the store? People never bring food to your house? You have to remember how incredibly traumatized these people were after finding their daughter had been murdered. When you are traumatized your brain does not work as well as usual, particularly your memory. This is the reason that eyewitness testimony is so unreliable. So if you had to recall everything perfectly for a police interview and you somehow didn't remember exactly right, you could be called a murderer, particularly by an inadequate law enforcement agency and the media who wants you to be guilty. It dumbfounds me how quick people are to think something so minimal equals murder-

Patsy wore the same clothes twice- she must be a murderer
Patsy can't remember if she bought pineapple- she must be a murderer
JB wet her bed a lot- she must've been sexually abused
Her brother, Burke was jealous- he must've struck her
The lady police officer thought John looked guilty- well then he must be!
The police thought Patsy looking through her fingers at them and crying was strange- she must be guilty
And on and on

[Anonymous]

Maybe those people who spend $50 a week on groceries remember every item they buy and every time in their pantry. Patsy was rich, had a huge house etc. She didn't fret about every time she bought.

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Anonymous wrote:I spend $1700 a month on groceries, I don't remember everything I buy FFS. I buy a lot.

I remember everything. Especially fresh items that need to be used or go bad. And especially if I have a trip planned.

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Anonymous wrote:^Is it normal to wake up in the morning, put on a full face of makeup (without showering first) and then put on clothes from the night before?

Who does that?

Did she ever wash off the makeup? Maybe she left it on from the night before. And threw on the the clothes from the night before just to quickly get up and get everything ready for their trip.

Just this morning I threw on my clothes from yesterday to walk the kids to the bus stop. After I worked out I took and showered and got dressed for the day.

I don't see the clothing and makeup as an issue - at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe those people who spend $50 a week on groceries remember every item they buy and every time in their pantry. Patsy was rich, had a huge house etc. She didn't fret about every time she bought.

She was a planner though. She planned Christmas breakfast. She knew what she bought.

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Anonymous wrote:It would seem that she would know whether she picked up pineapple from the store. Either definitely "yes - I picked up fresh pineapple" or definitely "no - I did not pick up fresh pineapple". That's all she had to say. But what she said was "I don't remember".

When I have a party, especially a big me. I go to the store like five times. I wouldn't remember a detail like that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Is it normal to wake up in the morning, put on a full face of makeup (without showering first) and then put on clothes from the night before?

Who does that?

Did she ever wash off the makeup? Maybe she left it on from the night before. And threw on the the clothes from the night before just to quickly get up and get everything ready for their trip.

Just this morning I threw on my clothes from yesterday to walk the kids to the bus stop. After I worked out I took and showered and got dressed for the day.

I don't see the clothing and makeup as an issue - at all.

I wouldn't leave heavy makeup on my face from the night before. But I'll throw on yesterday's clothes before I've showered and got ready for the day. I wouldn't take a trip like that though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I spend $1700 a month on groceries, I don't remember everything I buy FFS. I buy a lot.

I remember everything. Especially fresh items that need to be used or go bad. And especially if I have a trip planned.

But you are not as wealthy as them. You presumably sound worried about food spoiling. They lived a different lifestyle than you, they weren't going to cry if some food was wasted.

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Anonymous wrote:He did bring duct tape, rope, and perhaps a stun gun. Those are things you would bring to kidnap someone and take them to another location. I think the killer realized he would not be able to get her out of the house. So he wrote the elaborate note and put it on the stairs to keep the parents from searching the house and because he was all worked up he could not help himself and ramble on in that crazy note and directly taunt John. He then went to the furthest corner of the house and acted out his fantasy of assaulting her and strangling her. He used the rope he brought to strangle her and grabbed the paint brush and broke it in half. He used one half on her neck and the other he assaulted her with and took it as a souvenir. I think he would have brought his own flashlight such as a big black mag light and that is what he struck her in the head with. I think the bat and flashlight found at the Ramsey home were just ordinary objects lying around their house. Any home invader breaking into a dark house would bring a flash light.

There's no proof anything used to kill her was brought in from outside the house. There's no proof a stun gun was used.

There are strong indications it could've been though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It would seem that she would know whether she picked up pineapple from the store. Either definitely "yes - I picked up fresh pineapple" or definitely "no - I did not pick up fresh pineapple". That's all she had to say. But what she said was "I don't remember".

When I have a party, especially a big me. I go to the store like five times. I wouldn't remember a detail like that!

Yeah, but Christmas pancakes served with your kids' favorite fruit? You wouldn't remember planning a very specific meal like that?