Anonymous wrote:Imagine my "shock" when my boyfriend gave me this ring I picked out and the photographer I hired filmed it. *Make shocked face*
While both of us were wearing summer/fall 2025 Ralph Lauren. And we released the footage, with a 'teachers' caption, the day before my boyfriend's American Eagle 'back to school' ad.
Americans are hopelessly gullible.
You’re gullible if you believe they didn’t have a private engagement before this. He didn’t just roll up with that ring, this was made for mass consumption and more likely than not wasn’t even the real proposal. But, why are you so mad about it? This is what they do.
So it was fake but it was fake for the fans? Why? To milk fans and make money? But I thought they were both so rich, they don't have to fake or do anything for money? These are two soulless, scheming, money-grubbing celebs. I think both of them have sold their souls and are so far gone they don't know what is real, what is fake. Their life is a simulation at this point.
I agree, but I would also say that this is all Taylor has ever known. This is why she was exploited. Her entire tween and teen years were sold to her fans by her parents. If you have ever read that email her dad sent that was written when she was like 12 or so. He basically said he worked so hard to make her famous and (and he didn’t know what her talent was yet), but that she would be famous for SOMETHING (acting, modeling, etc). And that he crafted her own web site at age 12 to generate fans etc. Couple that with her Mom setting up secret parties with fans so Taylor could “see what teenage life was like” and you have a girlhood exploited.
She is like Truman in the Truman Show and she doesn’t even know it.
Definitely her childhood was different. She was being primed for stardom but it’s hard for me to see this as a bad thing. I remember when Britney was coming up it was before social media, but her mom had this blog which was like a journal, capturing all of B’s travel and tours and her life. It seemed very happy and wonderful. But we started seeing cracks pretty early.
Taylor is pretty far into this life and I’m not seeing those cracks. She truly seems to love her craft and I can’t imagine how amazing it would be to just be able to write songs that people can’t wait to listen to and watch performed in concert. She just came off a tour of what 149 concerts… That the fans went wild over… And that she seemed to clearly enjoy doing and it takes a lot of stamina and hard work and heart to put out. That wasn’t fake or manufactured.
I’m not saying a lot of the marketing is not, well marketing, but painting this picture as if she is some puppet doesn’t really work anymore. I’m sure her parents did a lot in the beginning, but she now really has agency over her life and career and she seems well adjusted, stable and dare I say happy.
I guess I don’t see where you can criticize her parents. I think if we end up with 35-year-olds who seem this happy and well adjusted we’d be happy as parents.
Taylor was driving this train for sure. Always has been. She said when she was 14 this is all she could think about and wanted to do. Write and be a star. Luckily her parents were very supportive.
Taylor’s Dad would disagree that Taylor was driving this train.
From the email (and this is just the first part of the long list of things her dad did):
Taylor's theatre group, which had never been invited to sing at Municipal Stadium in Reading for the Reading
Phillies was asked to come out on Oldies day. Who on the board of directors suggested Oldies Day?
I did.
Who then offered up the cast of Grease,
I did.
Who had promoted his 11 year old at every board meeting to the point that when the guy who was supposed to sing the national anthem did not show, they came to Taylor and said "Can you sing the national anthem?",
I did.
the person in charge of it was in the stands.
Which led to the Harlem Wizzards national anthem because
Who video taped it?
I did.
Who then made copies and used old contacts to send it to the 76ers, while being told he was silly.
I did.
Who bought tickets for all of Taylor's friends to go support her when she sang in front of 23,000 fans.
I did.
Who got to sit in the car with her friends while Andrea and Taylor were getting first class treatment in the dressing room.
I did. You will. That's not quite
fair.
Whose wife thinks I talk too much and promote Taylor too much. MINE. Share my pain please.
Who has made every single client listen to Taylor's latest song before we went over their financial plan?
Here's the short story.
There is in excess of $150,000 of hard dollars spend on travel, lessons, production ($29,000 not counting duplication), website (not too many artists come with a website like ours) and I know that is not the total value.
There are few months that we do not get a $500 bill from Mad Dancer on the website.
Ronnie was worse.
Original cost was $5000. Have I complained. No.
As a financial planner, is it fair to Austin that Taylor is taking her half of the estate now? Probably not.
The move (delightful as it has been) involved moving out of two houses and all the crap you had to put up with times 10. The expense has been over $200,000 not counting that I am being taxed in Pennsylvania and Tennessee (this year is was $31000). Now admittedly, some of this was furniture etc but without us moving here, Taylor is not where she is today. I changed the phone numbers, I changed the boat registrations, I changed the car registrations, I changed the addresses and the ali my registrations with Merrill. I commuted
back and forth from Reading, managed my staff. Do I need to vent every once in awhile. Yos. Sold the shore house because it is so far away. Yes we made a nice profit (bought for $400,000, sold for $2,425,000) but New Jersey put a mansion tax on and I get to pay them $158,000 and it pushes me into AMT and I lose the 15% capital gains and pay another $500,000.
Now, who really cares that her parents were rich and helped finance her? No one because only rich people get ahead these days anyway. But to say that Taylor was ALWAYS driving this train after reading that email is a bit crazy.
I know it's off topic but every time someone posts this letter I'm amazed again. What an absolute a$$hole. I struggle to square that with people who say Taylor is from great parents and was raised right -- the entitlement, bragging, self-centeredness, lack of perspective here. Also the stupidity of putting it all in writing when you are activity pushing for your daughter to become famous.
Taylor doesn't seem like this at all (if she is, she's an excellent actress) but if this is who raised her, then she's avoided those pitfalls in spite of her upbringing, not because of it.
How is this any different from the legions of tiger parents over on the college forum? Instead of angling for the Ivies, he was angling for the Grammy's.
Great point
Fame is much harder to deal with and messes up most child stars. Doing well in school and getting into an Ivy isn’t aiming for being famous.
That is how it is different to me.
Feel free to do it to your own kids and see if it feels great to sell out their private lives.
Anonymous wrote:Imagine my "shock" when my boyfriend gave me this ring I picked out and the photographer I hired filmed it. *Make shocked face*
While both of us were wearing summer/fall 2025 Ralph Lauren. And we released the footage, with a 'teachers' caption, the day before my boyfriend's American Eagle 'back to school' ad.
Americans are hopelessly gullible.
You’re gullible if you believe they didn’t have a private engagement before this. He didn’t just roll up with that ring, this was made for mass consumption and more likely than not wasn’t even the real proposal. But, why are you so mad about it? This is what they do.
So it was fake but it was fake for the fans? Why? To milk fans and make money? But I thought they were both so rich, they don't have to fake or do anything for money? These are two soulless, scheming, money-grubbing celebs. I think both of them have sold their souls and are so far gone they don't know what is real, what is fake. Their life is a simulation at this point.
I agree, but I would also say that this is all Taylor has ever known. This is why she was exploited. Her entire tween and teen years were sold to her fans by her parents. If you have ever read that email her dad sent that was written when she was like 12 or so. He basically said he worked so hard to make her famous and (and he didn’t know what her talent was yet), but that she would be famous for SOMETHING (acting, modeling, etc). And that he crafted her own web site at age 12 to generate fans etc. Couple that with her Mom setting up secret parties with fans so Taylor could “see what teenage life was like” and you have a girlhood exploited.
She is like Truman in the Truman Show and she doesn’t even know it.
Definitely her childhood was different. She was being primed for stardom but it’s hard for me to see this as a bad thing. I remember when Britney was coming up it was before social media, but her mom had this blog which was like a journal, capturing all of B’s travel and tours and her life. It seemed very happy and wonderful. But we started seeing cracks pretty early.
Taylor is pretty far into this life and I’m not seeing those cracks. She truly seems to love her craft and I can’t imagine how amazing it would be to just be able to write songs that people can’t wait to listen to and watch performed in concert. She just came off a tour of what 149 concerts… That the fans went wild over… And that she seemed to clearly enjoy doing and it takes a lot of stamina and hard work and heart to put out. That wasn’t fake or manufactured.
I’m not saying a lot of the marketing is not, well marketing, but painting this picture as if she is some puppet doesn’t really work anymore. I’m sure her parents did a lot in the beginning, but she now really has agency over her life and career and she seems well adjusted, stable and dare I say happy.
I guess I don’t see where you can criticize her parents. I think if we end up with 35-year-olds who seem this happy and well adjusted we’d be happy as parents.
Taylor was driving this train for sure. Always has been. She said when she was 14 this is all she could think about and wanted to do. Write and be a star. Luckily her parents were very supportive.
Taylor’s Dad would disagree that Taylor was driving this train.
From the email (and this is just the first part of the long list of things her dad did):
Taylor's theatre group, which had never been invited to sing at Municipal Stadium in Reading for the Reading
Phillies was asked to come out on Oldies day. Who on the board of directors suggested Oldies Day?
I did.
Who then offered up the cast of Grease,
I did.
Who had promoted his 11 year old at every board meeting to the point that when the guy who was supposed to sing the national anthem did not show, they came to Taylor and said "Can you sing the national anthem?",
I did.
the person in charge of it was in the stands.
Which led to the Harlem Wizzards national anthem because
Who video taped it?
I did.
Who then made copies and used old contacts to send it to the 76ers, while being told he was silly.
I did.
Who bought tickets for all of Taylor's friends to go support her when she sang in front of 23,000 fans.
I did.
Who got to sit in the car with her friends while Andrea and Taylor were getting first class treatment in the dressing room.
I did. You will. That's not quite
fair.
Whose wife thinks I talk too much and promote Taylor too much. MINE. Share my pain please.
Who has made every single client listen to Taylor's latest song before we went over their financial plan?
Here's the short story.
There is in excess of $150,000 of hard dollars spend on travel, lessons, production ($29,000 not counting duplication), website (not too many artists come with a website like ours) and I know that is not the total value.
There are few months that we do not get a $500 bill from Mad Dancer on the website.
Ronnie was worse.
Original cost was $5000. Have I complained. No.
As a financial planner, is it fair to Austin that Taylor is taking her half of the estate now? Probably not.
The move (delightful as it has been) involved moving out of two houses and all the crap you had to put up with times 10. The expense has been over $200,000 not counting that I am being taxed in Pennsylvania and Tennessee (this year is was $31000). Now admittedly, some of this was furniture etc but without us moving here, Taylor is not where she is today. I changed the phone numbers, I changed the boat registrations, I changed the car registrations, I changed the addresses and the ali my registrations with Merrill. I commuted
back and forth from Reading, managed my staff. Do I need to vent every once in awhile. Yos. Sold the shore house because it is so far away. Yes we made a nice profit (bought for $400,000, sold for $2,425,000) but New Jersey put a mansion tax on and I get to pay them $158,000 and it pushes me into AMT and I lose the 15% capital gains and pay another $500,000.
Now, who really cares that her parents were rich and helped finance her? No one because only rich people get ahead these days anyway. But to say that Taylor was ALWAYS driving this train after reading that email is a bit crazy.
I know it's off topic but every time someone posts this letter I'm amazed again. What an absolute a$$hole. I struggle to square that with people who say Taylor is from great parents and was raised right -- the entitlement, bragging, self-centeredness, lack of perspective here. Also the stupidity of putting it all in writing when you are activity pushing for your daughter to become famous.
Taylor doesn't seem like this at all (if she is, she's an excellent actress) but if this is who raised her, then she's avoided those pitfalls in spite of her upbringing, not because of it.
How is this any different from the legions of tiger parents over on the college forum? Instead of angling for the Ivies, he was angling for the Grammy's.
Great point
Fame is much harder to deal with and messes up most child stars. Doing well in school and getting into an Ivy isn’t aiming for being famous.
That is how it is different to me.
Feel free to do it to your own kids and see if it feels great to sell out their private lives.
Anonymous wrote:Imagine my "shock" when my boyfriend gave me this ring I picked out and the photographer I hired filmed it. *Make shocked face*
While both of us were wearing summer/fall 2025 Ralph Lauren. And we released the footage, with a 'teachers' caption, the day before my boyfriend's American Eagle 'back to school' ad.
Americans are hopelessly gullible.
You’re gullible if you believe they didn’t have a private engagement before this. He didn’t just roll up with that ring, this was made for mass consumption and more likely than not wasn’t even the real proposal. But, why are you so mad about it? This is what they do.
So it was fake but it was fake for the fans? Why? To milk fans and make money? But I thought they were both so rich, they don't have to fake or do anything for money? These are two soulless, scheming, money-grubbing celebs. I think both of them have sold their souls and are so far gone they don't know what is real, what is fake. Their life is a simulation at this point.
I agree, but I would also say that this is all Taylor has ever known. This is why she was exploited. Her entire tween and teen years were sold to her fans by her parents. If you have ever read that email her dad sent that was written when she was like 12 or so. He basically said he worked so hard to make her famous and (and he didn’t know what her talent was yet), but that she would be famous for SOMETHING (acting, modeling, etc). And that he crafted her own web site at age 12 to generate fans etc. Couple that with her Mom setting up secret parties with fans so Taylor could “see what teenage life was like” and you have a girlhood exploited.
She is like Truman in the Truman Show and she doesn’t even know it.
Definitely her childhood was different. She was being primed for stardom but it’s hard for me to see this as a bad thing. I remember when Britney was coming up it was before social media, but her mom had this blog which was like a journal, capturing all of B’s travel and tours and her life. It seemed very happy and wonderful. But we started seeing cracks pretty early.
Taylor is pretty far into this life and I’m not seeing those cracks. She truly seems to love her craft and I can’t imagine how amazing it would be to just be able to write songs that people can’t wait to listen to and watch performed in concert. She just came off a tour of what 149 concerts… That the fans went wild over… And that she seemed to clearly enjoy doing and it takes a lot of stamina and hard work and heart to put out. That wasn’t fake or manufactured.
I’m not saying a lot of the marketing is not, well marketing, but painting this picture as if she is some puppet doesn’t really work anymore. I’m sure her parents did a lot in the beginning, but she now really has agency over her life and career and she seems well adjusted, stable and dare I say happy.
I guess I don’t see where you can criticize her parents. I think if we end up with 35-year-olds who seem this happy and well adjusted we’d be happy as parents.
Taylor was driving this train for sure. Always has been. She said when she was 14 this is all she could think about and wanted to do. Write and be a star. Luckily her parents were very supportive.
Taylor’s Dad would disagree that Taylor was driving this train.
From the email (and this is just the first part of the long list of things her dad did):
Taylor's theatre group, which had never been invited to sing at Municipal Stadium in Reading for the Reading
Phillies was asked to come out on Oldies day. Who on the board of directors suggested Oldies Day?
I did.
Who then offered up the cast of Grease,
I did.
Who had promoted his 11 year old at every board meeting to the point that when the guy who was supposed to sing the national anthem did not show, they came to Taylor and said "Can you sing the national anthem?",
I did.
the person in charge of it was in the stands.
Which led to the Harlem Wizzards national anthem because
Who video taped it?
I did.
Who then made copies and used old contacts to send it to the 76ers, while being told he was silly.
I did.
Who bought tickets for all of Taylor's friends to go support her when she sang in front of 23,000 fans.
I did.
Who got to sit in the car with her friends while Andrea and Taylor were getting first class treatment in the dressing room.
I did. You will. That's not quite
fair.
Whose wife thinks I talk too much and promote Taylor too much. MINE. Share my pain please.
Who has made every single client listen to Taylor's latest song before we went over their financial plan?
Here's the short story.
There is in excess of $150,000 of hard dollars spend on travel, lessons, production ($29,000 not counting duplication), website (not too many artists come with a website like ours) and I know that is not the total value.
There are few months that we do not get a $500 bill from Mad Dancer on the website.
Ronnie was worse.
Original cost was $5000. Have I complained. No.
As a financial planner, is it fair to Austin that Taylor is taking her half of the estate now? Probably not.
The move (delightful as it has been) involved moving out of two houses and all the crap you had to put up with times 10. The expense has been over $200,000 not counting that I am being taxed in Pennsylvania and Tennessee (this year is was $31000). Now admittedly, some of this was furniture etc but without us moving here, Taylor is not where she is today. I changed the phone numbers, I changed the boat registrations, I changed the car registrations, I changed the addresses and the ali my registrations with Merrill. I commuted
back and forth from Reading, managed my staff. Do I need to vent every once in awhile. Yos. Sold the shore house because it is so far away. Yes we made a nice profit (bought for $400,000, sold for $2,425,000) but New Jersey put a mansion tax on and I get to pay them $158,000 and it pushes me into AMT and I lose the 15% capital gains and pay another $500,000.
Now, who really cares that her parents were rich and helped finance her? No one because only rich people get ahead these days anyway. But to say that Taylor was ALWAYS driving this train after reading that email is a bit crazy.
I know it's off topic but every time someone posts this letter I'm amazed again. What an absolute a$$hole. I struggle to square that with people who say Taylor is from great parents and was raised right -- the entitlement, bragging, self-centeredness, lack of perspective here. Also the stupidity of putting it all in writing when you are activity pushing for your daughter to become famous.
Taylor doesn't seem like this at all (if she is, she's an excellent actress) but if this is who raised her, then she's avoided those pitfalls in spite of her upbringing, not because of it.
How is this any different from the legions of tiger parents over on the college forum? Instead of angling for the Ivies, he was angling for the Grammy's.
Great point
Fame is much harder to deal with and messes up most child stars. Doing well in school and getting into an Ivy isn’t aiming for being famous.
That is how it is different to me.
Feel free to do it to your own kids and see if it feels great to sell out their private lives.
The valedictorian of my senior class took his own life right after graduation and was planning on going to an ivy league on full scholarship. Pressure can come from lots of angles in life.
I agree with others that it has seemed to affect Taylor from being a really good person that gives back.
Anonymous wrote:Imagine my "shock" when my boyfriend gave me this ring I picked out and the photographer I hired filmed it. *Make shocked face*
While both of us were wearing summer/fall 2025 Ralph Lauren. And we released the footage, with a 'teachers' caption, the day before my boyfriend's American Eagle 'back to school' ad.
Americans are hopelessly gullible.
You’re gullible if you believe they didn’t have a private engagement before this. He didn’t just roll up with that ring, this was made for mass consumption and more likely than not wasn’t even the real proposal. But, why are you so mad about it? This is what they do.
So it was fake but it was fake for the fans? Why? To milk fans and make money? But I thought they were both so rich, they don't have to fake or do anything for money? These are two soulless, scheming, money-grubbing celebs. I think both of them have sold their souls and are so far gone they don't know what is real, what is fake. Their life is a simulation at this point.
I agree, but I would also say that this is all Taylor has ever known. This is why she was exploited. Her entire tween and teen years were sold to her fans by her parents. If you have ever read that email her dad sent that was written when she was like 12 or so. He basically said he worked so hard to make her famous and (and he didn’t know what her talent was yet), but that she would be famous for SOMETHING (acting, modeling, etc). And that he crafted her own web site at age 12 to generate fans etc. Couple that with her Mom setting up secret parties with fans so Taylor could “see what teenage life was like” and you have a girlhood exploited.
She is like Truman in the Truman Show and she doesn’t even know it.
Definitely her childhood was different. She was being primed for stardom but it’s hard for me to see this as a bad thing. I remember when Britney was coming up it was before social media, but her mom had this blog which was like a journal, capturing all of B’s travel and tours and her life. It seemed very happy and wonderful. But we started seeing cracks pretty early.
Taylor is pretty far into this life and I’m not seeing those cracks. She truly seems to love her craft and I can’t imagine how amazing it would be to just be able to write songs that people can’t wait to listen to and watch performed in concert. She just came off a tour of what 149 concerts… That the fans went wild over… And that she seemed to clearly enjoy doing and it takes a lot of stamina and hard work and heart to put out. That wasn’t fake or manufactured.
I’m not saying a lot of the marketing is not, well marketing, but painting this picture as if she is some puppet doesn’t really work anymore. I’m sure her parents did a lot in the beginning, but she now really has agency over her life and career and she seems well adjusted, stable and dare I say happy.
I guess I don’t see where you can criticize her parents. I think if we end up with 35-year-olds who seem this happy and well adjusted we’d be happy as parents.
Taylor was driving this train for sure. Always has been. She said when she was 14 this is all she could think about and wanted to do. Write and be a star. Luckily her parents were very supportive.
Taylor’s Dad would disagree that Taylor was driving this train.
From the email (and this is just the first part of the long list of things her dad did):
Taylor's theatre group, which had never been invited to sing at Municipal Stadium in Reading for the Reading
Phillies was asked to come out on Oldies day. Who on the board of directors suggested Oldies Day?
I did.
Who then offered up the cast of Grease,
I did.
Who had promoted his 11 year old at every board meeting to the point that when the guy who was supposed to sing the national anthem did not show, they came to Taylor and said "Can you sing the national anthem?",
I did.
the person in charge of it was in the stands.
Which led to the Harlem Wizzards national anthem because
Who video taped it?
I did.
Who then made copies and used old contacts to send it to the 76ers, while being told he was silly.
I did.
Who bought tickets for all of Taylor's friends to go support her when she sang in front of 23,000 fans.
I did.
Who got to sit in the car with her friends while Andrea and Taylor were getting first class treatment in the dressing room.
I did. You will. That's not quite
fair.
Whose wife thinks I talk too much and promote Taylor too much. MINE. Share my pain please.
Who has made every single client listen to Taylor's latest song before we went over their financial plan?
Here's the short story.
There is in excess of $150,000 of hard dollars spend on travel, lessons, production ($29,000 not counting duplication), website (not too many artists come with a website like ours) and I know that is not the total value.
There are few months that we do not get a $500 bill from Mad Dancer on the website.
Ronnie was worse.
Original cost was $5000. Have I complained. No.
As a financial planner, is it fair to Austin that Taylor is taking her half of the estate now? Probably not.
The move (delightful as it has been) involved moving out of two houses and all the crap you had to put up with times 10. The expense has been over $200,000 not counting that I am being taxed in Pennsylvania and Tennessee (this year is was $31000). Now admittedly, some of this was furniture etc but without us moving here, Taylor is not where she is today. I changed the phone numbers, I changed the boat registrations, I changed the car registrations, I changed the addresses and the ali my registrations with Merrill. I commuted
back and forth from Reading, managed my staff. Do I need to vent every once in awhile. Yos. Sold the shore house because it is so far away. Yes we made a nice profit (bought for $400,000, sold for $2,425,000) but New Jersey put a mansion tax on and I get to pay them $158,000 and it pushes me into AMT and I lose the 15% capital gains and pay another $500,000.
Now, who really cares that her parents were rich and helped finance her? No one because only rich people get ahead these days anyway. But to say that Taylor was ALWAYS driving this train after reading that email is a bit crazy.
I know it's off topic but every time someone posts this letter I'm amazed again. What an absolute a$$hole. I struggle to square that with people who say Taylor is from great parents and was raised right -- the entitlement, bragging, self-centeredness, lack of perspective here. Also the stupidity of putting it all in writing when you are activity pushing for your daughter to become famous.
Taylor doesn't seem like this at all (if she is, she's an excellent actress) but if this is who raised her, then she's avoided those pitfalls in spite of her upbringing, not because of it.
How is this any different from the legions of tiger parents over on the college forum? Instead of angling for the Ivies, he was angling for the Grammy's.
Great point
Fame is much harder to deal with and messes up most child stars. Doing well in school and getting into an Ivy isn’t aiming for being famous.
That is how it is different to me.
Feel free to do it to your own kids and see if it feels great to sell out their private lives.
The valedictorian of my senior class took his own life right after graduation and was planning on going to an ivy league on full scholarship. Pressure can come from lots of angles in life.
I agree with others that it has seemed to affect Taylor from being a really good person that gives back.
Typo- it hasn’t affected Taylor from being a good person.
Anonymous wrote:Imagine my "shock" when my boyfriend gave me this ring I picked out and the photographer I hired filmed it. *Make shocked face*
While both of us were wearing summer/fall 2025 Ralph Lauren. And we released the footage, with a 'teachers' caption, the day before my boyfriend's American Eagle 'back to school' ad.
Americans are hopelessly gullible.
You’re gullible if you believe they didn’t have a private engagement before this. He didn’t just roll up with that ring, this was made for mass consumption and more likely than not wasn’t even the real proposal. But, why are you so mad about it? This is what they do.
So it was fake but it was fake for the fans? Why? To milk fans and make money? But I thought they were both so rich, they don't have to fake or do anything for money? These are two soulless, scheming, money-grubbing celebs. I think both of them have sold their souls and are so far gone they don't know what is real, what is fake. Their life is a simulation at this point.
I agree, but I would also say that this is all Taylor has ever known. This is why she was exploited. Her entire tween and teen years were sold to her fans by her parents. If you have ever read that email her dad sent that was written when she was like 12 or so. He basically said he worked so hard to make her famous and (and he didn’t know what her talent was yet), but that she would be famous for SOMETHING (acting, modeling, etc). And that he crafted her own web site at age 12 to generate fans etc. Couple that with her Mom setting up secret parties with fans so Taylor could “see what teenage life was like” and you have a girlhood exploited.
She is like Truman in the Truman Show and she doesn’t even know it.
Definitely her childhood was different. She was being primed for stardom but it’s hard for me to see this as a bad thing. I remember when Britney was coming up it was before social media, but her mom had this blog which was like a journal, capturing all of B’s travel and tours and her life. It seemed very happy and wonderful. But we started seeing cracks pretty early.
Taylor is pretty far into this life and I’m not seeing those cracks. She truly seems to love her craft and I can’t imagine how amazing it would be to just be able to write songs that people can’t wait to listen to and watch performed in concert. She just came off a tour of what 149 concerts… That the fans went wild over… And that she seemed to clearly enjoy doing and it takes a lot of stamina and hard work and heart to put out. That wasn’t fake or manufactured.
I’m not saying a lot of the marketing is not, well marketing, but painting this picture as if she is some puppet doesn’t really work anymore. I’m sure her parents did a lot in the beginning, but she now really has agency over her life and career and she seems well adjusted, stable and dare I say happy.
I guess I don’t see where you can criticize her parents. I think if we end up with 35-year-olds who seem this happy and well adjusted we’d be happy as parents.
Taylor was driving this train for sure. Always has been. She said when she was 14 this is all she could think about and wanted to do. Write and be a star. Luckily her parents were very supportive.
Taylor’s Dad would disagree that Taylor was driving this train.
From the email (and this is just the first part of the long list of things her dad did):
Taylor's theatre group, which had never been invited to sing at Municipal Stadium in Reading for the Reading
Phillies was asked to come out on Oldies day. Who on the board of directors suggested Oldies Day?
I did.
Who then offered up the cast of Grease,
I did.
Who had promoted his 11 year old at every board meeting to the point that when the guy who was supposed to sing the national anthem did not show, they came to Taylor and said "Can you sing the national anthem?",
I did.
the person in charge of it was in the stands.
Which led to the Harlem Wizzards national anthem because
Who video taped it?
I did.
Who then made copies and used old contacts to send it to the 76ers, while being told he was silly.
I did.
Who bought tickets for all of Taylor's friends to go support her when she sang in front of 23,000 fans.
I did.
Who got to sit in the car with her friends while Andrea and Taylor were getting first class treatment in the dressing room.
I did. You will. That's not quite
fair.
Whose wife thinks I talk too much and promote Taylor too much. MINE. Share my pain please.
Who has made every single client listen to Taylor's latest song before we went over their financial plan?
Here's the short story.
There is in excess of $150,000 of hard dollars spend on travel, lessons, production ($29,000 not counting duplication), website (not too many artists come with a website like ours) and I know that is not the total value.
There are few months that we do not get a $500 bill from Mad Dancer on the website.
Ronnie was worse.
Original cost was $5000. Have I complained. No.
As a financial planner, is it fair to Austin that Taylor is taking her half of the estate now? Probably not.
The move (delightful as it has been) involved moving out of two houses and all the crap you had to put up with times 10. The expense has been over $200,000 not counting that I am being taxed in Pennsylvania and Tennessee (this year is was $31000). Now admittedly, some of this was furniture etc but without us moving here, Taylor is not where she is today. I changed the phone numbers, I changed the boat registrations, I changed the car registrations, I changed the addresses and the ali my registrations with Merrill. I commuted
back and forth from Reading, managed my staff. Do I need to vent every once in awhile. Yos. Sold the shore house because it is so far away. Yes we made a nice profit (bought for $400,000, sold for $2,425,000) but New Jersey put a mansion tax on and I get to pay them $158,000 and it pushes me into AMT and I lose the 15% capital gains and pay another $500,000.
Now, who really cares that her parents were rich and helped finance her? No one because only rich people get ahead these days anyway. But to say that Taylor was ALWAYS driving this train after reading that email is a bit crazy.
I know it's off topic but every time someone posts this letter I'm amazed again. What an absolute a$$hole. I struggle to square that with people who say Taylor is from great parents and was raised right -- the entitlement, bragging, self-centeredness, lack of perspective here. Also the stupidity of putting it all in writing when you are activity pushing for your daughter to become famous.
Taylor doesn't seem like this at all (if she is, she's an excellent actress) but if this is who raised her, then she's avoided those pitfalls in spite of her upbringing, not because of it.
How is this any different from the legions of tiger parents over on the college forum? Instead of angling for the Ivies, he was angling for the Grammy's.
Great point
Fame is much harder to deal with and messes up most child stars. Doing well in school and getting into an Ivy isn’t aiming for being famous.
That is how it is different to me.
Feel free to do it to your own kids and see if it feels great to sell out their private lives.
Why so angry?
What do you mean, because I noted how you could do it to your own kids? I’m just showing you that it probably isn’t what regular parents would seek out for their children. THe PPs saw nothing wrong with it and were trying to normalize parents who were really pushy behind the scenes. I find it wrong. If you think it should be emulated, feel free.
Anonymous wrote:Imagine my "shock" when my boyfriend gave me this ring I picked out and the photographer I hired filmed it. *Make shocked face*
While both of us were wearing summer/fall 2025 Ralph Lauren. And we released the footage, with a 'teachers' caption, the day before my boyfriend's American Eagle 'back to school' ad.
Americans are hopelessly gullible.
You’re gullible if you believe they didn’t have a private engagement before this. He didn’t just roll up with that ring, this was made for mass consumption and more likely than not wasn’t even the real proposal. But, why are you so mad about it? This is what they do.
So it was fake but it was fake for the fans? Why? To milk fans and make money? But I thought they were both so rich, they don't have to fake or do anything for money? These are two soulless, scheming, money-grubbing celebs. I think both of them have sold their souls and are so far gone they don't know what is real, what is fake. Their life is a simulation at this point.
I agree, but I would also say that this is all Taylor has ever known. This is why she was exploited. Her entire tween and teen years were sold to her fans by her parents. If you have ever read that email her dad sent that was written when she was like 12 or so. He basically said he worked so hard to make her famous and (and he didn’t know what her talent was yet), but that she would be famous for SOMETHING (acting, modeling, etc). And that he crafted her own web site at age 12 to generate fans etc. Couple that with her Mom setting up secret parties with fans so Taylor could “see what teenage life was like” and you have a girlhood exploited.
She is like Truman in the Truman Show and she doesn’t even know it.
Definitely her childhood was different. She was being primed for stardom but it’s hard for me to see this as a bad thing. I remember when Britney was coming up it was before social media, but her mom had this blog which was like a journal, capturing all of B’s travel and tours and her life. It seemed very happy and wonderful. But we started seeing cracks pretty early.
Taylor is pretty far into this life and I’m not seeing those cracks. She truly seems to love her craft and I can’t imagine how amazing it would be to just be able to write songs that people can’t wait to listen to and watch performed in concert. She just came off a tour of what 149 concerts… That the fans went wild over… And that she seemed to clearly enjoy doing and it takes a lot of stamina and hard work and heart to put out. That wasn’t fake or manufactured.
I’m not saying a lot of the marketing is not, well marketing, but painting this picture as if she is some puppet doesn’t really work anymore. I’m sure her parents did a lot in the beginning, but she now really has agency over her life and career and she seems well adjusted, stable and dare I say happy.
I guess I don’t see where you can criticize her parents. I think if we end up with 35-year-olds who seem this happy and well adjusted we’d be happy as parents.
Taylor was driving this train for sure. Always has been. She said when she was 14 this is all she could think about and wanted to do. Write and be a star. Luckily her parents were very supportive.
Taylor’s Dad would disagree that Taylor was driving this train.
From the email (and this is just the first part of the long list of things her dad did):
Taylor's theatre group, which had never been invited to sing at Municipal Stadium in Reading for the Reading
Phillies was asked to come out on Oldies day. Who on the board of directors suggested Oldies Day?
I did.
Who then offered up the cast of Grease,
I did.
Who had promoted his 11 year old at every board meeting to the point that when the guy who was supposed to sing the national anthem did not show, they came to Taylor and said "Can you sing the national anthem?",
I did.
the person in charge of it was in the stands.
Which led to the Harlem Wizzards national anthem because
Who video taped it?
I did.
Who then made copies and used old contacts to send it to the 76ers, while being told he was silly.
I did.
Who bought tickets for all of Taylor's friends to go support her when she sang in front of 23,000 fans.
I did.
Who got to sit in the car with her friends while Andrea and Taylor were getting first class treatment in the dressing room.
I did. You will. That's not quite
fair.
Whose wife thinks I talk too much and promote Taylor too much. MINE. Share my pain please.
Who has made every single client listen to Taylor's latest song before we went over their financial plan?
Here's the short story.
There is in excess of $150,000 of hard dollars spend on travel, lessons, production ($29,000 not counting duplication), website (not too many artists come with a website like ours) and I know that is not the total value.
There are few months that we do not get a $500 bill from Mad Dancer on the website.
Ronnie was worse.
Original cost was $5000. Have I complained. No.
As a financial planner, is it fair to Austin that Taylor is taking her half of the estate now? Probably not.
The move (delightful as it has been) involved moving out of two houses and all the crap you had to put up with times 10. The expense has been over $200,000 not counting that I am being taxed in Pennsylvania and Tennessee (this year is was $31000). Now admittedly, some of this was furniture etc but without us moving here, Taylor is not where she is today. I changed the phone numbers, I changed the boat registrations, I changed the car registrations, I changed the addresses and the ali my registrations with Merrill. I commuted
back and forth from Reading, managed my staff. Do I need to vent every once in awhile. Yos. Sold the shore house because it is so far away. Yes we made a nice profit (bought for $400,000, sold for $2,425,000) but New Jersey put a mansion tax on and I get to pay them $158,000 and it pushes me into AMT and I lose the 15% capital gains and pay another $500,000.
Now, who really cares that her parents were rich and helped finance her? No one because only rich people get ahead these days anyway. But to say that Taylor was ALWAYS driving this train after reading that email is a bit crazy.
I know it's off topic but every time someone posts this letter I'm amazed again. What an absolute a$$hole. I struggle to square that with people who say Taylor is from great parents and was raised right -- the entitlement, bragging, self-centeredness, lack of perspective here. Also the stupidity of putting it all in writing when you are activity pushing for your daughter to become famous.
Taylor doesn't seem like this at all (if she is, she's an excellent actress) but if this is who raised her, then she's avoided those pitfalls in spite of her upbringing, not because of it.
How is this any different from the legions of tiger parents over on the college forum? Instead of angling for the Ivies, he was angling for the Grammy's.
Great point
Fame is much harder to deal with and messes up most child stars. Doing well in school and getting into an Ivy isn’t aiming for being famous.
That is how it is different to me.
Feel free to do it to your own kids and see if it feels great to sell out their private lives.
Why so angry?
What do you mean, because I noted how you could do it to your own kids? I’m just showing you that it probably isn’t what regular parents would seek out for their children. THe PPs saw nothing wrong with it and were trying to normalize parents who were really pushy behind the scenes. I find it wrong. If you think it should be emulated, feel free.
No one’s making you do anything re: your kids. This already happened with her. She’s almost 36 and seems really happy. So who gives a crap what her dad did to help her when she was a child. If Taylor Swift is happy with him, who the hell are you to say she or anyone else should feel otherwise.
Seriously. There is zero chance she didn’t freeze her eggs long ago.
You sound very low information in regards to the risks involved in freezing your eggs. And also, nobody wants to be an old mom. And die before your kids grow up, before you can see grandkids.
Seriously. There is zero chance she didn’t freeze her eggs long ago.
You sound very low information in regards to the risks involved in freezing your eggs. And also, nobody wants to be an old mom. And die before your kids grow up, before you can see grandkids.
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These are two soulless, scheming, money-grubbing celebs. I think both of them have sold their souls and are so far gone they don't know what is real, what is fake. Their life is a simulation at this point.