ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that this can go a couple of ways on the girls side:

- Either the girls get stronger because the top players from Union and Brave join FVU and weaker players go to other teams

OR

- Everyone freaks out and FVU loses top players because they're not willing to gamble on FVU working out. If you get an FVU offer, how can you be assured that a strong team is being built? There will need to be a lot of coordination among parents -- "are you staying?" "who is staying?"

The main question is, how many players are on a team?

Roster-counter-guy checking in!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean/Union has the best college recruiting record for girls in NoVA. Look at the 2007s/06s as examples - FSU, UCLA, Georgetown, UVA, UMD, Wisconsin. And the 2007s/06s are not even ranked first in their ECNL divisions. These girls did not come from SYC. Union girls are playing at Yale, Columbia (x2), Brown and Dartmouth (x3) right now (past Union players). I don’t understand this merger but no one can say Union isn’t a good club if the goal is playing college soccer or using soccer to get into college (which is the goal of most ECNL parents and players).

Talk to us after this 2008 and 2009 class comes through. This alliance is ever evolving precisely becuase McLean knows its over after 2007. SYC saw that light, and are going it alone, BRAVE couldn't do it alone, so come join the party. IG posts from 2007 will have to hold you over for some time now

So you think taking a bunch of players, who come from privilege, money and the best k-12 schools in the country, and you place those kids at Yale, Columbia, Brown and Dartmouth is great recruiting? I would assume no less from these players and I would assume they were already going to these schools already. I don't think their skill at soccer was what got them into these schools; their skills allowed them to be part of a soccer team in college. Their money and privilege allowed them to get into these colleges.

Don't tell me overall numbers of players who are at these schools. Tell me how many of these players were developed at the academy from a young age on scholarship and are now playing at these schools or at other name colleges, then I might be impressed.

[Anonymous]

AP not coaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of insecurity is showing in all these posters spouting off their prediction and roster selection. lmaof

So true, other than maybe VDA, none of these ECNL clubs should be saying players who won't make their rosters and will play GA or dilute GA rosters. Deaf, dumb and or blind you ECNL sheep still are. People, ECNL families will choose GA's player development model over this Alliance of the week ECNL is currently playing in NoVa, believe that! Your kid does not matter at all, is the messaging from ECNL. they are saying we know we are the best ticket in town for your girl to go to college and play soccer. No pathways for pro development, no pathway for equitable evalutions, trials in comparision to male couterparts. Just college is what ECNL is selling you. That is more than enough for most, don't get me wrongg, but if thats not enough for you, then its time to open your eyes parents. Maybe don't go to Revolution but certainly SYC is looking the most appealing outside of VDA, only becuase they have added a well known TD in BP, like him or not, you know he has connections. So VDA and SYC have at them, different parts of NoVa but one takes the East, the other the West, and Union just fails because of ECNL greed, and of course Arlington will always be there, being mediocre

Interesting you’re so high on VDA and low on others. How have they fared vs local clubs boys and girls?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean/Union has the best college recruiting record for girls in NoVA. Look at the 2007s/06s as examples - FSU, UCLA, Georgetown, UVA, UMD, Wisconsin. And the 2007s/06s are not even ranked first in their ECNL divisions. These girls did not come from SYC. Union girls are playing at Yale, Columbia (x2), Brown and Dartmouth (x3) right now (past Union players). I don’t understand this merger but no one can say Union isn’t a good club if the goal is playing college soccer or using soccer to get into college (which is the goal of most ECNL parents and players).

Talk to us after this 2008 and 2009 class comes through. This alliance is ever evolving precisely becuase McLean knows its over after 2007. SYC saw that light, and are going it alone, BRAVE couldn't do it alone, so come join the party. IG posts from 2007 will have to hold you over for some time now

So you think taking a bunch of players, who come from privilege, money and the best k-12 schools in the country, and you place those kids at Yale, Columbia, Brown and Dartmouth is great recruiting? I would assume no less from these players and I would assume they were already going to these schools already. I don't think their skill at soccer was what got them into these schools; their skills allowed them to be part of a soccer team in college. Their money and privilege allowed them to get into these colleges.

Don't tell me overall numbers of players who are at these schools. Tell me how many of these players were developed at the academy from a young age on scholarship and are now playing at these schools or at other name colleges, then I might be impressed.

Those are for girls college recruiting. What are the boys’ colleges and numbers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean/Union has the best college recruiting record for girls in NoVA. Look at the 2007s/06s as examples - FSU, UCLA, Georgetown, UVA, UMD, Wisconsin. And the 2007s/06s are not even ranked first in their ECNL divisions. These girls did not come from SYC. Union girls are playing at Yale, Columbia (x2), Brown and Dartmouth (x3) right now (past Union players). I don’t understand this merger but no one can say Union isn’t a good club if the goal is playing college soccer or using soccer to get into college (which is the goal of most ECNL parents and players).

Talk to us after this 2008 and 2009 class comes through. This alliance is ever evolving precisely becuase McLean knows its over after 2007. SYC saw that light, and are going it alone, BRAVE couldn't do it alone, so come join the party. IG posts from 2007 will have to hold you over for some time now

So you think taking a bunch of players, who come from privilege, money and the best k-12 schools in the country, and you place those kids at Yale, Columbia, Brown and Dartmouth is great recruiting? I would assume no less from these players and I would assume they were already going to these schools already. I don't think their skill at soccer was what got them into these schools; their skills allowed them to be part of a soccer team in college. Their money and privilege allowed them to get into these colleges.

Don't tell me overall numbers of players who are at these schools. Tell me how many of these players were developed at the academy from a young age on scholarship and are now playing at these schools or at other name colleges, then I might be impressed.

She’s right ✅

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of losers in this.

The immediate ones are the BRAVE kids on the 06/07 team. Not one of them could take out the top 20 Union players.

What kind of stupid statement is this? 07s played twice this year and first one was a tie. Second game Brave won so how did you come to the conclusion that none of them could touch top union players? Most of the 07 team is new this year from surrounding clubs. Way to try and position your union player, find a brave parent at tryout and make the same statement.

I think they were referring to girls, not boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean/Union has the best college recruiting record for girls in NoVA. Look at the 2007s/06s as examples - FSU, UCLA, Georgetown, UVA, UMD, Wisconsin. And the 2007s/06s are not even ranked first in their ECNL divisions. These girls did not come from SYC. Union girls are playing at Yale, Columbia (x2), Brown and Dartmouth (x3) right now (past Union players). I don’t understand this merger but no one can say Union isn’t a good club if the goal is playing college soccer or using soccer to get into college (which is the goal of most ECNL parents and players).

Talk to us after this 2008 and 2009 class comes through. This alliance is ever evolving precisely becuase McLean knows its over after 2007. SYC saw that light, and are going it alone, BRAVE couldn't do it alone, so come join the party. IG posts from 2007 will have to hold you over for some time now

So you think taking a bunch of players, who come from privilege, money and the best k-12 schools in the country, and you place those kids at Yale, Columbia, Brown and Dartmouth is great recruiting? I would assume no less from these players and I would assume they were already going to these schools already. I don't think their skill at soccer was what got them into these schools; their skills allowed them to be part of a soccer team in college. Their money and privilege allowed them to get into these colleges.

Don't tell me overall numbers of players who are at these schools. Tell me how many of these players were developed at the academy from a young age on scholarship and are now playing at these schools or at other name colleges, then I might be impressed.

Ahh no - they were not already going to these school without soccer. A recruited IVY athlete will move the needle. All of the other factors are big too, but soccer gets them in.

She’s right ✅

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't FCV merge with Loudoun? They are closer to each other. I don't understand these partnerships where the geographic region is so large or so far away. SYC and Mclean never made sense.

fcv is homeless. Hansen and evergreen don’t belong to that club. So no they aren’t close proximity wise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of insecurity is showing in all these posters spouting off their prediction and roster selection. lmaof

So true, other than maybe VDA, none of these ECNL clubs should be saying players who won't make their rosters and will play GA or dilute GA rosters. Deaf, dumb and or blind you ECNL sheep still are. People, ECNL families will choose GA's player development model over this Alliance of the week ECNL is currently playing in NoVa, believe that! Your kid does not matter at all, is the messaging from ECNL. they are saying we know we are the best ticket in town for your girl to go to college and play soccer. No pathways for pro development, no pathway for equitable evalutions, trials in comparision to male couterparts. Just college is what ECNL is selling you. That is more than enough for most, don't get me wrongg, but if thats not enough for you, then its time to open your eyes parents. Maybe don't go to Revolution but certainly SYC is looking the most appealing outside of VDA, only becuase they have added a well known TD in BP, like him or not, you know he has connections. So VDA and SYC have at them, different parts of NoVa but one takes the East, the other the West, and Union just fails because of ECNL greed, and of course Arlington will always be there, being mediocre

Interesting you’re so high on VDA and low on others. How have they fared vs local clubs boys and girls?

BP isn't the TD at VDA, nor was he ever a TD. CC was the TD at legacy FCV during BP's tenure. ML is the TD at VDA. Give it a year or two at VDA to determine if things are changing for the better.

This off-season will be interesting for them, there will be some families that are upset due to losing spots for incoming players, those incoming players will then need to determine if the program is worth it, especially if they're commuting far. Dust takes time to settle but around here sometimes it never gets a chance to.

[Anonymous]

I will just say. Being Northern Virginia I'll bet a lot of you will scream about bullying and sexism and what not, but it really is despicable about how many (the majority) on this board are commenting about teenage boys and girls and the people, maybe flawed, that are trying to coach and mentor and run a club where they learn the benefits of exercise and team work and finding their limits.

It is truly disgusting reading these attacks.

Do better people.
Signed/
All of us

[Anonymous]

Test

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will just say. Being Northern Virginia I'll bet a lot of you will scream about bullying and sexism and what not, but it really is despicable about how many (the majority) on this board are commenting about teenage boys and girls and the people, maybe flawed, that are trying to coach and mentor and run a club where they learn the benefits of exercise and team work and finding their limits.

It is truly disgusting reading these attacks.

Do better people.
Signed/
All of us

You're obviously not from around here.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of insecurity is showing in all these posters spouting off their prediction and roster selection. lmaof

So true, other than maybe VDA, none of these ECNL clubs should be saying players who won't make their rosters and will play GA or dilute GA rosters. Deaf, dumb and or blind you ECNL sheep still are. People, ECNL families will choose GA's player development model over this Alliance of the week ECNL is currently playing in NoVa, believe that! Your kid does not matter at all, is the messaging from ECNL. they are saying we know we are the best ticket in town for your girl to go to college and play soccer. No pathways for pro development, no pathway for equitable evalutions, trials in comparision to male couterparts. Just college is what ECNL is selling you. That is more than enough for most, don't get me wrongg, but if thats not enough for you, then its time to open your eyes parents. Maybe don't go to Revolution but certainly SYC is looking the most appealing outside of VDA, only becuase they have added a well known TD in BP, like him or not, you know he has connections. So VDA and SYC have at them, different parts of NoVa but one takes the East, the other the West, and Union just fails because of ECNL greed, and of course Arlington will always be there, being mediocre

Interesting you’re so high on VDA and low on others. How have they fared vs local clubs boys and girls?

BP isn't the TD at VDA, nor was he ever a TD. CC was the TD at legacy FCV during BP's tenure. ML is the TD at VDA. Give it a year or two at VDA to determine if things are changing for the better.

This off-season will be interesting for them, there will be some families that are upset due to losing spots for incoming players, those incoming players will then need to determine if the program is worth it, especially if they're commuting far. Dust takes time to settle but around here sometimes it never gets a chance to.

VDA will continue its success. BP nor ML really run VDA girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will just say. Being Northern Virginia I'll bet a lot of you will scream about bullying and sexism and what not, but it really is despicable about how many (the majority) on this board are commenting about teenage boys and girls and the people, maybe flawed, that are trying to coach and mentor and run a club where they learn the benefits of exercise and team work and finding their limits.

It is truly disgusting reading these attacks.

Do better people.
Signed/
All of us

You're obviously not from around here.....

Or just stop reading this filth