GOP endorsed school board candidates

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Anonymous wrote:Saundra Davis came to my neighborhood civic association and was very disappointed when asked specific questions about what she would try to accomplish. It seems the only thing she is good at is saying "I'm a moderate" but doesn't actually have a plan for FCPS.

Hmm.

Doesn't sound at all like you are talking about Saundra Davis. I am skeptical because this post does not even remotely match reality.

OP. I certainly am talking about Saundra. She had a fine opening statement where she talked about how she’s an Independent and former Democrat and we need to get politics out of schools.

Then for every question asked she just didn’t actually go into any details with her answer.

I was actually considering voting for her before I went to the forum. Now I’m most definitely not.

I also researched her more and read her extremely disappointing answers to the Special Education PTA questionnaire where she didn’t actually answer any of the questions. My kids have 504/IEPs as did I in school so I am in tune with special ed and disability issues. She seemed very rushed and not at all concerned about our community. Linking so you can see for yourself:
https://fairfaxcountysepta.files.wordpress.com/2023/10/saundra-davis-candidate-response-formatted.pdf

Please share how has the 100% Democrat FCPS School Board helped or benefited your 504 Plan/IEP kids, particularly with issues of special education and disability during the past four years. And, how consistent (or inconsistent) has that been with what the Democrat endorsed candidates filled out on the Special Education PTA questionnaire?

This current school board is redesigning literacy standards to align with the science of reading. Parents of students with dyslexia has been advocating for this for years.

DP. You mean finally allowing phonics to be taught - after years and years of parents and teachers begging? You do know the only reason the SB finally agreed is because the Fairfax County NAACP requested phonics, right?

Yes. Most school districts still follow outdated literacy standards. FCPS is leading the way thanks to this school board.

ONLY because the NAACP lobbied them to do so - and saying no to the NAACP would have made them look "racist."

No it wouldn't. The Fairfax NAACP is 95% white. It's an exclusionary club that doesn't want black membership because it would alter which candidates they invite to forums, fundraise for, and their advocacy.

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The typical person doesn't know this. I agree that parents and teachers long advocated for phonics before these deaf eared political groups and politicians

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Anonymous wrote:Saundra Davis came to my neighborhood civic association and was very disappointed when asked specific questions about what she would try to accomplish. It seems the only thing she is good at is saying "I'm a moderate" but doesn't actually have a plan for FCPS.

Hmm.

Doesn't sound at all like you are talking about Saundra Davis. I am skeptical because this post does not even remotely match reality.

OP. I certainly am talking about Saundra. She had a fine opening statement where she talked about how she’s an Independent and former Democrat and we need to get politics out of schools.

Then for every question asked she just didn’t actually go into any details with her answer.

I was actually considering voting for her before I went to the forum. Now I’m most definitely not.

I also researched her more and read her extremely disappointing answers to the Special Education PTA questionnaire where she didn’t actually answer any of the questions. My kids have 504/IEPs as did I in school so I am in tune with special ed and disability issues. She seemed very rushed and not at all concerned about our community. Linking so you can see for yourself:
https://fairfaxcountysepta.files.wordpress.com/2023/10/saundra-davis-candidate-response-formatted.pdf

Please share how has the 100% Democrat FCPS School Board helped or benefited your 504 Plan/IEP kids, particularly with issues of special education and disability during the past four years. And, how consistent (or inconsistent) has that been with what the Democrat endorsed candidates filled out on the Special Education PTA questionnaire?

This current school board is redesigning literacy standards to align with the science of reading. Parents of students with dyslexia has been advocating for this for years.

This was mandated by the state, fyi.

same parents advocating in county were also behind push for state changes.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

you could also use the word need focused or something that doesn't indicate that there is an unfairness to the system. Yes, there is an unfairness to biology and environment, but we don't need to make an assumption that we are teaching against these factors.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

I have a dyslexic kid and I would never classify dyslexia services as "equity"

They are two very different things.

My dyslexic kid will never have the same outcomes as her sibling without dyslexia when it comes to written langiage and reading ability. But special ed services and accomodation help her to reach her potential, even if that potential is very different from her best friend without dyslexia.

Special ed services provide equality of opportunity. Equity is about attempting to manufacture the same outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

I have a dyslexic kid and I would never classify dyslexia services as "equity"

They are two very different things.

My dyslexic kid will never have the same outcomes as her sibling without dyslexia when it comes to written langiage and reading ability. But special ed services and accomodation help her to reach her potential, even if that potential is very different from her best friend without dyslexia.

Special ed services provide equality of opportunity. Equity is about attempting to manufacture the same outcomes.

Cool. But it is. Equity means giving extra support to those students who may need it.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

I have a dyslexic kid and I would never classify dyslexia services as "equity"

They are two very different things.

My dyslexic kid will never have the same outcomes as her sibling without dyslexia when it comes to written langiage and reading ability. But special ed services and accomodation help her to reach her potential, even if that potential is very different from her best friend without dyslexia.

Special ed services provide equality of opportunity. Equity is about attempting to manufacture the same outcomes.

Cool. But it is. Equity means giving extra support to those students who may need it.

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Shocker. The people who are so against "equity" don't even know what it means. Big on outrage, low on facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

I have a dyslexic kid and I would never classify dyslexia services as "equity"

They are two very different things.

My dyslexic kid will never have the same outcomes as her sibling without dyslexia when it comes to written langiage and reading ability. But special ed services and accomodation help her to reach her potential, even if that potential is very different from her best friend without dyslexia.

Special ed services provide equality of opportunity. Equity is about attempting to manufacture the same outcomes.

Cool. But it is. Equity means giving extra support to those students who may need it.

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Shocker. The people who are so against "equity" don't even know what it means. Big on outrage, low on facts.

The picture shows equal outcomes. The boxes being bigger underneath each person of different sizes. What the person above is saying is that this is not possible. A good education is more about providing the right supports for each person to achieve their potential which is not expected to be equal in the end. Justice is relating to the law. That is important to fulfill but in the context written it seems to imply that the law is unfair.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

I have a dyslexic kid and I would never classify dyslexia services as "equity"

They are two very different things.

My dyslexic kid will never have the same outcomes as her sibling without dyslexia when it comes to written langiage and reading ability. But special ed services and accomodation help her to reach her potential, even if that potential is very different from her best friend without dyslexia.

Special ed services provide equality of opportunity. Equity is about attempting to manufacture the same outcomes.

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Exactly this.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

I have a dyslexic kid and I would never classify dyslexia services as "equity"

They are two very different things.

My dyslexic kid will never have the same outcomes as her sibling without dyslexia when it comes to written langiage and reading ability. But special ed services and accomodation help her to reach her potential, even if that potential is very different from her best friend without dyslexia.

Special ed services provide equality of opportunity. Equity is about attempting to manufacture the same outcomes.

Cool. But it is. Equity means giving extra support to those students who may need it.

+1

Shocker. The people who are so against "equity" don't even know what it means. Big on outrage, low on facts.

The picture shows equal outcomes. The boxes being bigger underneath each person of different sizes. What the person above is saying is that this is not possible. A good education is more about providing the right supports for each person to achieve their potential which is not expected to be equal in the end. Justice is relating to the law. That is important to fulfill but in the context written it seems to imply that the law is unfair.

That is far, far more "equitable" than what we have today. I'll take it.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

I have a dyslexic kid and I would never classify dyslexia services as "equity"

They are two very different things.

My dyslexic kid will never have the same outcomes as her sibling without dyslexia when it comes to written langiage and reading ability. But special ed services and accomodation help her to reach her potential, even if that potential is very different from her best friend without dyslexia.

Special ed services provide equality of opportunity. Equity is about attempting to manufacture the same outcomes.

Cool. But it is. Equity means giving extra support to those students who may need it.

+1

Shocker. The people who are so against "equity" don't even know what it means. Big on outrage, low on facts.

The picture shows equal outcomes. The boxes being bigger underneath each person of different sizes. What the person above is saying is that this is not possible. A good education is more about providing the right supports for each person to achieve their potential which is not expected to be equal in the end. Justice is relating to the law. That is important to fulfill but in the context written it seems to imply that the law is unfair.

That is far, far more "equitable" than what we have today. I'll take it.

FCPS spends far more per student on ESOL, FARMS, and Special Education students than on other students not in those categories. It’s fair to ask whether the “right supports” for those kids - if significantly greater than what they are currently getting from FCPS - translates into “no support” for other kids. But the kids who aren’t ESOL, FARMS, or Special Education don’t have special groups lobbying for them or School Board members like Sizemore Heizer prioritizing their needs. It’s just assumed they’ll make do and, if they fall through the cracks, we can always just blame their parents.

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Anonymous wrote:The questionnaire wes filled out and makes sense and is not dismissive. I don’t understand the issue.

Saundra Davis gave two-sentence answers to the questionnaire that did not go into specifics. It's quite frankly insulting to us in the SPED community that she couldn't come up with even an hour or so to actually develop detailed answers.

https://fairfaxcountysepta.files.wordpress.com/2023/10/saundra-davis-candidate-response-formatted.pdf

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You had your own thread to complain about the responses or lack thereof to the SEPTA questionnaire. Must you hijack EVERY thread with the same complaints?

You have no right to talk AT ALL about disability issues if you didn’t fill out that questionnaire. And yet these candidates like Harry Jackson and Tony Sabio and Paul Bartkowski will continue to pander and talk about special ed issues when they couldn’t even be bothered to fill out the PTA questionnaire.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

I have a dyslexic kid and I would never classify dyslexia services as "equity"

They are two very different things.

My dyslexic kid will never have the same outcomes as her sibling without dyslexia when it comes to written langiage and reading ability. But special ed services and accomodation help her to reach her potential, even if that potential is very different from her best friend without dyslexia.

Special ed services provide equality of opportunity. Equity is about attempting to manufacture the same outcomes.

Cool. But it is. Equity means giving extra support to those students who may need it.

+1

Shocker. The people who are so against "equity" don't even know what it means. Big on outrage, low on facts.

The picture shows equal outcomes. The boxes being bigger underneath each person of different sizes. What the person above is saying is that this is not possible. A good education is more about providing the right supports for each person to achieve their potential which is not expected to be equal in the end. Justice is relating to the law. That is important to fulfill but in the context written it seems to imply that the law is unfair.

so you don't think dyslexic students should get any additional resources?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Justice centered aproach?

Yes, dyslexic students like mine need more support. That’s what equity is.

I have a dyslexic kid and I would never classify dyslexia services as "equity"

They are two very different things.

My dyslexic kid will never have the same outcomes as her sibling without dyslexia when it comes to written langiage and reading ability. But special ed services and accomodation help her to reach her potential, even if that potential is very different from her best friend without dyslexia.

Special ed services provide equality of opportunity. Equity is about attempting to manufacture the same outcomes.

Cool. But it is. Equity means giving extra support to those students who may need it.

+1

Shocker. The people who are so against "equity" don't even know what it means. Big on outrage, low on facts.

The picture shows equal outcomes. The boxes being bigger underneath each person of different sizes. What the person above is saying is that this is not possible. A good education is more about providing the right supports for each person to achieve their potential which is not expected to be equal in the end. Justice is relating to the law. That is important to fulfill but in the context written it seems to imply that the law is unfair.

That is far, far more "equitable" than what we have today. I'll take it.

FCPS spends far more per student on ESOL, FARMS, and Special Education students than on other students not in those categories. It’s fair to ask whether the “right supports” for those kids - if significantly greater than what they are currently getting from FCPS - translates into “no support” for other kids. But the kids who aren’t ESOL, FARMS, or Special Education don’t have special groups lobbying for them or School Board members like Sizemore Heizer prioritizing their needs. It’s just assumed they’ll make do and, if they fall through the cracks, we can always just blame their parents.

This is a ridiculous statement. Giving extra support to SPED students doesn't hurt gen ed students. It means sped students can get the same kind of access to education as everyone else.